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Old 10-18-2021, 05:39 PM   #1
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Nodsmiley Was Willis a jerk the first couple of seasons?

Was Willis a rude jerk the first couple of seasons?
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Yes, he was a jerk. He was a hardened kid from Harlem. Over time, he gradually came to trust people more. I love that about DS.
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He did not trust Mr. Drummand at first and kept fighting him
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Yes season 1 he was rough around the edges and then the character was changed in season 2 and became less HOOD
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wilis was realistic and less sheltered than mr drumond. as he told him in 'the trial' episode; 'you believe what you read, i believe what i see'. he was more experienced when it came to issues such as race, crime and poverty.

arnold was younger and easily won over by fancy toys. willis wasn't so quick to trust people he didn't know. he had a lot placed on his young shoulders, from having to raise arnold after both their parents died. he had to keep his guard up.

of course, arnold was smart enough to remind him that it was their mother's wishes that they live with the drumonds. once willis got to know everybody, he naturally loosened up. i'd say he seemed a lot smarter in the earlier seasons.
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Old 01-17-2024, 05:53 PM   #8
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I liked Willis better in the earlier seasons. He became too preppy for me later!
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He was the older brother and the protector.
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No. But I like Willis better in the later years/seasons.
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While some fans saw him as a "jerk," others saw a kid suffering from survivor’s guilt and a deep-seated need to protect his brother.

The "Hardened" Protector vs. The "Sheltered" Millionaire
In Season 1, Willis was the "anchor" to their reality in Harlem. As the posts mentioned, he was much harder to "buy" than Arnold.

The "Toys" Factor: Arnold was young enough to be dazzled by the penthouse’s robot (Cecil) and the fancy lifestyle. Willis, being older, understood that they had lost their mother and their entire world. To him, accepting Mr. Drummond's gifts felt like betraying their roots.

The "Trial" Episode: The quote "You believe what you read, I believe what I see" is a perfect example of the cultural clash. Willis knew the reality of race and class in 1970s New York in a way that Philip Drummond—despite his good intentions—simply couldn't grasp from his ivory tower.

Why the Character "Softened" in Season 2
The writers deliberately shifted Willis away from being "hood" (as the forum user put it) for a few practical reasons:

Likability: For a sitcom to last, the lead characters have to be generally likable. A perpetually angry teenager makes for a "downer" of a show.

The "Big Brother" Dynamic: Once Willis accepted that Mr. Drummond wasn't trying to replace their father but was genuinely there to help, his "jerk" behavior evolved into typical teenage rebellion. He went from "fighting the system" to "fighting for a later curfew."

The Rise of Arnold: As Gary Coleman became a massive superstar, the show shifted its focus to Arnold’s "cute" antics, leaving Willis to play the "straight man" or the "responsible older brother" who occasionally got into trouble (like the famous "The Bike Man" or "The Hitchhikers" episodes).

It’s a shame the show didn't lean more into that gritty realism of the first season. Watching Willis struggle to maintain his identity while living in a penthouse was much more compelling than the later "typical teen" storylines
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While some fans saw him as a "jerk," others saw a kid suffering from survivor’s guilt and a deep-seated need to protect his brother.

The "Hardened" Protector vs. The "Sheltered" Millionaire
In Season 1, Willis was the "anchor" to their reality in Harlem. As the posts mentioned, he was much harder to "buy" than Arnold.

The "Toys" Factor: Arnold was young enough to be dazzled by the penthouse’s robot (Cecil) and the fancy lifestyle. Willis, being older, understood that they had lost their mother and their entire world. To him, accepting Mr. Drummond's gifts felt like betraying their roots.

The "Trial" Episode: The quote "You believe what you read, I believe what I see" is a perfect example of the cultural clash. Willis knew the reality of race and class in 1970s New York in a way that Philip Drummond—despite his good intentions—simply couldn't grasp from his ivory tower.

Why the Character "Softened" in Season 2
The writers deliberately shifted Willis away from being "hood" (as the forum user put it) for a few practical reasons:

Likability: For a sitcom to last, the lead characters have to be generally likable. A perpetually angry teenager makes for a "downer" of a show.

The "Big Brother" Dynamic: Once Willis accepted that Mr. Drummond wasn't trying to replace their father but was genuinely there to help, his "jerk" behavior evolved into typical teenage rebellion. He went from "fighting the system" to "fighting for a later curfew."

The Rise of Arnold: As Gary Coleman became a massive superstar, the show shifted its focus to Arnold’s "cute" antics, leaving Willis to play the "straight man" or the "responsible older brother" who occasionally got into trouble (like the famous "The Bike Man" or "The Hitchhikers" episodes).

It’s a shame the show didn't lean more into that gritty realism of the first season. Watching Willis struggle to maintain his identity while living in a penthouse was much more compelling than the later "typical teen" storylines
He was kind of nerdy by season 4. He went from Hood to Nerd
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