The Springfield Three

[sprinkles]

Originally Posted by mozartpc27

I'd be happy to discuss this case when I have all the relevant facts, but I also can't justify spending $30+shipping for a tape that might not even add to the information I have been able to locate on the internet.

Sorry to revive such an old thread. I was thinking about the Springfield Three the other day for some reason and found the episode of 48 Hours about them on YouTube if you're still interested in watching it. I'm not sure if I can link to it here or not, but it was pretty easy to find. It does discuss the grave robbing that Cursiorandcursior mentioned.

[jjmcgr]

Originally Posted by sprinkles

Sorry to revive such an old thread. I was thinking about the Springfield Three the other day for some reason and found the episode of 48 Hours about them on YouTube if you're still interested in watching it. I'm not sure if I can link to it here or not, but it was pretty easy to find. It does discuss the grave robbing that Cursiorandcursior mentioned.

There is a new book about the Springfield Three out:

The Missing Three: The Story of the Missing Women from Springfield, Missouri by Dave Warren

I'll be reading it next. I drove by the house once. Seemed like a nice neighborhood although it is only a block away from a main drag. There is a school at the other end of the street. I think the serial killer from Illinois who was in to reenacting with his brother did it. I cannot remember his name.

[laurianne9]

Originally Posted by jjmcgr

There is a new book about the Springfield Three out:

The Missing Three: The Story of the Missing Women from Springfield, Missouri by Dave Warren

I'll be reading it next. I drove by the house once. Seemed like a nice neighborhood although it is only a block away from a main drag. There is a school at the other end of the street. I think the serial killer from Illinois who was in to reenacting with his brother did it. I cannot remember his name.

I believe his name is Larry Dewayne Hall and his brothers name is Gary Hall.

[WishfulDreamer]

This remains a case I'm eager to see solved. Watching the Disappeared episode again, I do wonder if someone at one of the graduation parties decided to target the girls. They were apparently in the company of many people. What if one or more of the attendees followed the girls back to the Streeter home and used a ruse to gain entry? A weapon could have been used to keep the women compliant. If a perpetrator knew that only Suzie's mother would be present, not her father or brother, that may have been a motivating factor. Only people known to Suzie would know that she and her mother were alone and estranged from her older brother.

The purses being lined up together gives me the creeps. This sounds like something that may have happened during a robbery, a demand to line up and pull out valuables/cash, but I haven't seen a report of anything missing from their purses. So it doesn't sound like robbery. I've always believed this was likely a sexually motivated crime.

[Drown Soda]

This case more than possibly any other has bothered me for a long time. So many questions and so little information to go off of.

[88keys]

Thinking Sideways did a podcast on this one. I don't know if it contains any new information, but it was a pretty good episode.

http://thinkingsidewayspodcast.com/t...ngfield-three/

[Tamstrat]

This is a very bizarre, baffling case. The thing that always baffled me is how did the perp(s) enter the residence? Other than the broken porch light globe to my understanding there was no sign of violence or forced entry such as a broken window or kicked in door. Either Suzie accidentally left the front door unlocked when she and Stacy arrived home and the perp(s) entered or after they had been there a period of time (makeup had been removed, clothes taken off etc) someone came to the door and one of the 3 women left the perp(s) into the residence willingly. Now who would someone willingly let into their home when it's after 2:00 AM, either someone they know and trust or someone in "authority" such as a police officer. Or someone impersonating a police officer. I personally feel it was someone who knew and targeted either Sherrill or Suzie. I feel poor Stacy was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[dynoguy88]

Originally Posted by WishfulDreamer

The porchlight was then shattered to ensure that nobody saw the events or assailants, then the women were abducted. It's so horrifying to think about and this all went on in the early morning hours, with very little evidence left behind. This case is so creepy.

It was the glass case that was shattered but the lightbulb itself was intact and not broken. So if an abductor broke the case to obstruct any light from the front porch, he failed. You can't help but feel unsettled by it because it's the only physical piece of evidence at the house that something was amiss. But it's hard to figure out how and why the case was broken. Is it possible the case could have been broken accidentally while the abductor(s) were forcing the women out of the house at gunpoint?

Originally Posted by WishfulDreamer

Watching the Disappeared episode again, I do wonder if someone at one of the graduation parties decided to target the girls. They were apparently in the company of many people. What if one or more of the attendees followed the girls back to the Streeter home and used a ruse to gain entry? A weapon could have been used to keep the women compliant. If a perpetrator knew that only Suzie's mother would be present, not her father or brother, that may have been a motivating factor.

The girls original plan was to spend the night at their friend Janelle Kirby's house and then they were all going to take off for a water park the next morning. Their sleeping plans changed when they realized how overcrowded Janelle's house was because she had family members drive long distance to attend her graduation ceremony. So sleeping at Suzie's house was a last second decision.

This makes me wonder if Sherril was some sort of a target because she originally was supposed to be home alone that night and at least a full day after because of the girls trip. If some sort of a killer was following Suzie and Stacey around at the graduation parties, they wouldn't have had any luck abducting them had the girls original sleeping plan stayed in place...unless they planned to abduct a house full of Janelle's family members as well, which seems very unlikely. It would only be pure luck that the girls plans changed.

So from these facts, I can only believe Sherril was the intended target all along and the other girls happened to be walking in to a death trap completely unbeknownst to them and the abductors.

[Tamstrat]

I agree that Sherrill was the intended target. The girls plans kept changing and evolving. I read or heard that originally they were going to stay in a hotel near the water park. From what I've gleaned the McCall's (Stacy's parents) didn't approve. They then went to Janelle's home. Too crowded so the then returned to Suzie and Sherrill's home.

[dynoguy88]

Originally Posted by Tamstrat

I agree that Sherrill was the intended target. The girls plans kept changing and evolving. I read or heard that originally they were going to stay in a hotel near the water park. From what I've gleaned the McCall's (Stacy's parents) didn't approve. They then went to Janelle's home. Too crowded so the then returned to Suzie and Sherrill's home.

That's correct. Thank you for pointing that out. The original plan was actually to stay at a hotel in Branson, close to the water park, which was a 30 minute's drive away from Springfield. That got changed at 10:00 p.m. because they were having too much fun at the party and decided to leave for the water park early the next morning. When exactly they figured out that Janelle's home would be too crowded to sleep at, I can't find an exact time. But that doesn't change the fact that Sherrill was expected to be home alone for a little over 24 hours. Maybe even another day depending on how long the girls planned on staying in Branson.

[Drown Soda]

This case has always baffled me because it seems so random that all three women would disappear together for any reason at all. I've seen the Disappeared episode and did find the way they presented Sherrill's son's relationship to her and her daughter somewhat odd—there was a lot of bitterness there clearly, and he had basically had nothing to do with either his mother or his sister prior to their disappearances. I don't necessarily think he had anything to do with it, but it struck me as unusual. There simply weren't any known enemies.

As far as the parking garage bit at Cox Hospital, it strikes me as *extremely* likely that they are buried there. The timing of its construction aligns with their disappearances, and the ground sonar revealing three anomalies in the shape of human bodies seems enough reason to dig up the garage—it's frankly absurd that this hasn't been done yet. I understand it's a costly endeavor, but the families of these women deserve to have them back after all these years of suffering and uncertainty. There is a petition online to excavate the garage that I'd urge anyone to sign: https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/...ox-springfield

[Anamnesis]

Originally Posted by Tamstrat

I agree that Sherrill was the intended target. The girls plans kept changing and evolving. I read or heard that originally they were going to stay in a hotel near the water park. From what I've gleaned the McCall's (Stacy's parents) didn't approve. They then went to Janelle's home. Too crowded so the then returned to Suzie and Sherrill's home.

I agree with this. I think that Sherrill was targeted while she was home alone, but once the girls came back, the perp had to alter his plans. Sherrill may have already been in the process of being abducted when the girls came home, although it says the beds appeared to have been slept in, so that might change things.

I don't believe that one perp would set out to kidnap three women. Far too risky. If that was the plan, there had to have been an accomplice. However, I do put stock in the sighting of Suzie driving the van. The perp may have found that a less dangerous strategy than leaving them all in the back unattended.

[dynoguy88]

Originally Posted by Anamnesis

I agree with this. I think that Sherrill was targeted while she was home alone, but once the girls came back, the perp had to alter his plans. Sherrill may have already been in the process of being abducted when the girls came home, although it says the beds appeared to have been slept in, so that might change things.

I don't believe that one perp would set out to kidnap three women. Far too risky. If that was the plan, there had to have been an accomplice. However, I do put stock in the sighting of Suzie driving the van. The perp may have found that a less dangerous strategy than leaving them all in the back unattended.

I believe Sherrill was the target mainly because she was supposed to be alone that night. But I'm still struggling over who would want to hurt her. She was a hairdresser with no known enemies. Was there a man who was possibly infatuated with her? Going through with the plan to abduct her despite two extra people now in the house shows how deeply committed he was to getting her.

I see the abduction taking place maybe an hour to a couple hours after Suzie and Stacey arrived at the house. Not only did the bed appear to be slept in but rags showed the girls had removed their makeup. A kidnapper is not going to wait for the girls to remove their makeup. And you're less likely to be seen removing three victims from a house at gunpoint at 2:00 in the morning rather than 10:00 p.m.

This past June was the 25th anniversary of the girls disappearance. Here's an interesting article on it...

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local...154750499.html

[dynoguy88]

'People Investigates' will air an episode about the Springfield Three on Monday, November 4th at 9:00 p.m. It will also be in this week's People Magazine feature.

https://www.news-leader.com/story/ne...ry/2496488001/

[TheCars1986]

There is so much minsinformation about this case out there that I think it will be very difficult to be solved. Putting false information such as "Suzie was set to testify against her ex-boyfriend a week before her disappearance" is an outright lie. Her ex-boyfriend was arrested for the grave robbing incident in September of 1992; 2 months after the three women disappeared. The grave robbers were looked at extensively and each of them passed a polygraph. I know polygraphs are not admissible in court, but all three of them denying involvement and passing is not something that can be ignored.