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df17 · 05-18-2023, 12:04 AM

Maybe he got those from someone else so he doesn't know their origins or when they were recorded.

Frank Gannucci · 05-18-2023, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by df17

Maybe he got those from someone else so he doesn't know their origins or when they were recorded.

Thank you. The mind is wondering.

Frank Gannucci · 05-18-2023, 07:48 AM

I am wondering if I should bid on this. I am afraid that I would be wasting my money. I am 99% sure the tapes don’t have the original openings to the Color Honeymooners.

Frank Gannucci · 05-21-2023, 08:50 AM

I bought the tapes.

Frank Gannucci · 05-30-2023, 11:11 PM

I’m in the process of converting sone of these to DVDs. I should have a list of these soon. So far, I found at least three syndicated Jackie Gleason Show episodes from the future WWOR. I’m not sure if these are on Tubi and I’m not sure if these are on the other tapes I bought from this seller and I’m not sure if these episodes are the same from the DVD box set I bought from Thomas Film Classics which I think was called Jackie Gleason Show DVD box set volume 2 (I think both volumes have 24 episodes but I’m not sure.)

Frank Gannucci · 06-12-2023, 07:48 PM

On 6/27/2006, Videowack wrote this on this site.

""Confusion, Italian Style": Opening production number is cut by 1 minute. It's a very clever edit and most viewers would not pick it up. I wouldn't have either except that I have a kinescope of this same show and uncut the number runs 2:30, here it runs 1:30. Again, the same recording used in 1977 and on Goodlife." (Note: That channel is now known today as YTA TV.)

https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards...t=Greta&page=2

I acquired the uncut version of this as well. It's a B&W kinoscope. It's funny watching the "CBS presents this program in color" in B&W. The first two screen caps are from the intro and ending of the opening dance number from MPI. The third and fourth ones are from the kinoscope. Notice the difference in running times from the beginning and end. The fifth and sixth screen grab is footage that is not on the MPI DVD whatsoever. It's Glea Girl Greta Von Hagge (nee Randall) doing the sponsor plug. The seventh one is for Purina Cat food. I included it because I think kittens and small dogs are adorable.

There is another ad that I am too lazy to put a screen cap. It's for Caramille candy feeaturing an Indian. I don't think that this ad would fly today but I can be wrong. There is also an ad for Zenith celebrating it's 50th (at the time) anniversary by showing off it's then current TVs. How times have changed. Also, at the end when the Jackie Gleason Show logo appears, Johnny Olsen plugs the "next week's" episode but no clips are shown.

Videowack on his site said he had color Honeymooners episodes (with different openings and different Glea girls.)

Confusion Italian Style is a part of the tapes that this eBay seller was part of this tape set that I bought. I also can confirm that this print has more footage that the MPI version doesn’t have. It’s the June Taylor Dancers singing at the end of scene one that only lasts less than a minute.

Frank Gannucci · 06-12-2023, 08:12 PM

Now here’s the tapes the guy has. It has a number of syndicated Jackie Gleason Show episodes from WWOR. I don’t know if they are on Tubi but they do have the commercials. The Stage Show episode is missing the last day ten minutes or so.

A lot of these I didn’t bother to dub to DVD since I don’t care for them or I already have them on DVD. Here they are. I should note that the 1954 Jackie Gleason Show episode that he has has a blooper that is on the Jackie Gleason Honeybloopers and Jackie Gleason Funniest Moments compilations where Jackie has to stall for time due to something that happened behind the curtain so he does things like putting his tie on and explaining to the audience the blunder that happened behind the curtain. Also one or two of the Calvacade of Stars episodes came from VHS releases that were issued in 1983. Also the Hineymooning Behund The Scenes is Inside TV Land: The Honeymooners. Also, there is no versions of the Color Honeymooners episodes in this set that are different than the MPI versions except for Confusion, Italian Style. The last ten minutes of the Color Honeymooners episode “You’re In The Picture” is from syndication.

Frank Gannucci · 06-12-2023, 08:14 PM

Here are two more images. The second image is from the tape that has the 1954 episode of the Jackie Gleason Show that has the time code on the bottom as well as that blunder I talked about in an earlier post in this thread that I made today (6/12/2023).

Frank Gannucci · 06-12-2023, 09:12 PM

Here are better pics. I wasn’t too thrilled with my earlier attempt so…

I also can confirm that this print has more footage that the MPI version doesn’t have. It’s the June Taylor Dancers singing at the end of scene one that only lasts less than a minute. I am going to post the images as best as I could. The DVD player on my computer works but it is very hard, if not impossible to post images from my computer onto this site due to the DVD player I have. So I am relying on my IPhine and IPad.

This is the images from Confusion Italian Style that proves that MPI edited the footage.

The first four are obviously from MPI and the last three are from this guy’s set.

Frank Gannucci · 06-12-2023, 09:59 PM

BTW, the “Petticoat Jungle” episode that he has MAY have a some seconds of footage that MPI has but I’m not sure.

Frank Gannucci · 11-02-2025, 09:46 PM

I know this is an old message but I want to point t out that this tape that I will supply images of is a producers copy with original ads.

Frank Gannucci · 11-04-2025, 02:30 PM

A while back, I acquired tapes of the Jackie Gleason show from an eBay seller including a tape that wouldn’t go inside the vcr.

Well, thanks to certain people on the Chit Chat board of this site, I fixed the problem and dubbed the tape to DVD. Here’s the tape

biffbronson · 11-04-2025, 03:26 PM

Off topic but related to recordings of older programs:

I wanted to make a suggestion in general that everyone check Internet Archive for programming that's been added there, oftentimes from VHS (or Beta) tape sources, before purchasing recorded media:

https://archive.org/

There's a complete or near-complete 1-season Connie Stevens sitcom there that may interest you; I didn't want to link to it here directly, for fear it may be removed (due to copyright issues). I'll send you a link in a private message. Something I wanted and waited years for appeared this past summer on there, a great resource!

06-12-2023, 07:48 PM	#21
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,892	On 6/27/2006, Videowack wrote this on this site. ""Confusion, Italian Style": Opening production number is cut by 1 minute. It's a very clever edit and most viewers would not pick it up. I wouldn't have either except that I have a kinescope of this same show and uncut the number runs 2:30, here it runs 1:30. Again, the same recording used in 1977 and on Goodlife." (Note: That channel is now known today as YTA TV.) https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards...t=Greta&page=2 I acquired the uncut version of this as well. It's a B&W kinoscope. It's funny watching the "CBS presents this program in color" in B&W. The first two screen caps are from the intro and ending of the opening dance number from MPI. The third and fourth ones are from the kinoscope. Notice the difference in running times from the beginning and end. The fifth and sixth screen grab is footage that is not on the MPI DVD whatsoever. It's Glea Girl Greta Von Hagge (nee Randall) doing the sponsor plug. The seventh one is for Purina Cat food. I included it because I think kittens and small dogs are adorable. There is another ad that I am too lazy to put a screen cap. It's for Caramille candy feeaturing an Indian. I don't think that this ad would fly today but I can be wrong. There is also an ad for Zenith celebrating it's 50th (at the time) anniversary by showing off it's then current TVs. How times have changed. Also, at the end when the Jackie Gleason Show logo appears, Johnny Olsen plugs the "next week's" episode but no clips are shown. Videowack on his site said he had color Honeymooners episodes (with different openings and different Glea girls.) Confusion Italian Style is a part of the tapes that this eBay seller was part of this tape set that I bought. I also can confirm that this print has more footage that the MPI version doesn’t have. It’s the June Taylor Dancers singing at the end of scene one that only lasts less than a minute. Attached Images

06-12-2023, 08:12 PM	#22
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,892	Now here’s the tapes the guy has. It has a number of syndicated Jackie Gleason Show episodes from WWOR. I don’t know if they are on Tubi but they do have the commercials. The Stage Show episode is missing the last day ten minutes or so. A lot of these I didn’t bother to dub to DVD since I don’t care for them or I already have them on DVD. Here they are. I should note that the 1954 Jackie Gleason Show episode that he has has a blooper that is on the Jackie Gleason Honeybloopers and Jackie Gleason Funniest Moments compilations where Jackie has to stall for time due to something that happened behind the curtain so he does things like putting his tie on and explaining to the audience the blunder that happened behind the curtain. Also one or two of the Calvacade of Stars episodes came from VHS releases that were issued in 1983. Also the Hineymooning Behund The Scenes is Inside TV Land: The Honeymooners. Also, there is no versions of the Color Honeymooners episodes in this set that are different than the MPI versions except for Confusion, Italian Style. The last ten minutes of the Color Honeymooners episode “You’re In The Picture” is from syndication. Attached Images

06-12-2023, 08:14 PM	#23
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,892	Here are two more images. The second image is from the tape that has the 1954 episode of the Jackie Gleason Show that has the time code on the bottom as well as that blunder I talked about in an earlier post in this thread that I made today (6/12/2023). Attached Images

06-12-2023, 09:12 PM	#24
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,892	Here are better pics. I wasn’t too thrilled with my earlier attempt so… I also can confirm that this print has more footage that the MPI version doesn’t have. It’s the June Taylor Dancers singing at the end of scene one that only lasts less than a minute. I am going to post the images as best as I could. The DVD player on my computer works but it is very hard, if not impossible to post images from my computer onto this site due to the DVD player I have. So I am relying on my IPhine and IPad. This is the images from Confusion Italian Style that proves that MPI edited the footage. The first four are obviously from MPI and the last three are from this guy’s set. Attached Images

11-02-2025, 09:46 PM	#26
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,892	I know this is an old message but I want to point t out that this tape that I will supply images of is a producers copy with original ads. Attached Images

05-18-2023, 12:04 AM	#16
df17 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 25, 2006 Posts: 92	Maybe he got those from someone else so he doesn't know their origins or when they were recorded.

05-18-2023, 07:48 AM	#18
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,892	I am wondering if I should bid on this. I am afraid that I would be wasting my money. I am 99% sure the tapes don’t have the original openings to the Color Honeymooners.

05-21-2023, 08:50 AM	#19
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,892	I bought the tapes.

05-30-2023, 11:11 PM	#20
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,892	I’m in the process of converting sone of these to DVDs. I should have a list of these soon. So far, I found at least three syndicated Jackie Gleason Show episodes from the future WWOR. I’m not sure if these are on Tubi and I’m not sure if these are on the other tapes I bought from this seller and I’m not sure if these episodes are the same from the DVD box set I bought from Thomas Film Classics which I think was called Jackie Gleason Show DVD box set volume 2 (I think both volumes have 24 episodes but I’m not sure.)

06-12-2023, 09:59 PM	#25
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,892	BTW, the “Petticoat Jungle” episode that he has MAY have a some seconds of footage that MPI has but I’m not sure.

11-04-2025, 02:30 PM	#27
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,892	A while back, I acquired tapes of the Jackie Gleason show from an eBay seller including a tape that wouldn’t go inside the vcr. Well, thanks to certain people on the Chit Chat board of this site, I fixed the problem and dubbed the tape to DVD. Here’s the tape Attached Images

11-04-2025, 03:26 PM	#28
biffbronson Sentimental Fool Forum Star Join Date: Aug 22, 2009 Location: Near Notre Dame Posts: 10,262	Off topic but related to recordings of older programs: I wanted to make a suggestion in general that everyone check Internet Archive for programming that's been added there, oftentimes from VHS (or Beta) tape sources, before purchasing recorded media: https://archive.org/ There's a complete or near-complete 1-season Connie Stevens sitcom there that may interest you; I didn't want to link to it here directly, for fear it may be removed (due to copyright issues). I'll send you a link in a private message. Something I wanted and waited years for appeared this past summer on there, a great resource!