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Old 10-08-2023, 02:33 AM   #1
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Question Did the end of The Brady Bunch in 1974 also mark the end of the "heart comedy" trend

By "heart comedy", I mean sitcoms (particularly, those from the 1960s) where the emphasis was on the stories, life lessons, and warm, wholesome, sentimental moments. Besides The Brady Bunch, My Three Sons, Family Affair, or The Courtship of Eddie’s Father are examples of these types of shows.

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If it did for a while, it certainly picked up again in the 80s with Family Ties, Silver Spoons, Facts of Life, Roseanne, etc.
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If it did for a while, it certainly picked up again in the 80s with Family Ties, Silver Spoons, Facts of Life, Roseanne, etc.
Maybe Silver Spoons in a few episodes but Roseanne was sarcastic comedy that just ended each episode with laughs. No real moral lesson.

To answer the original question, yes the Brady Bunch ended that run. In every episode there was a moral story at the end. Countless episodes of the kids getting big heads and then come crashing down to earth. Jan is afraid of her ugly Aunt Jenny until she learns who exciting she is and beauty is inside you.
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Maybe Silver Spoons in a few episodes but Roseanne was sarcastic comedy that just ended each episode with laughs. No real moral lesson.
Nope I would say any meaningful show with morals went out in the 80s...
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If anything I think it blossomed in the 80s. But it's been dead in sitcoms ever since.
At least on popular ones.
I haven't watched Reba or the Tim Allen show but they might be different.
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If it did for a while, it certainly picked up again in the 80s with Family Ties, Silver Spoons, Facts of Life, Roseanne, etc.
Full House, which debuted in 1987, is probably the most clear or obvious latter example of a "heart comedy" sitcom that I could immediately think of. Full House, as a sitcom, was pretty unabashedly sincere and saccharine.
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Full House later started the beginning of the TGIF lineup in the late 80s all the way through the 90s. All the sitcoms in that line up had heart. Family Matters, Step by Step, Perfect Strangers, etc.
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Somebody else wrote that before MTM and Norman Lear re-energized American sitcoms in the early '70s, the networks were riddled with 'snore-coms'. Among them being, My Three Sons, Family Affair, and Petticoat Junction.
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Somebody else wrote that before MTM and Norman Lear re-energized American sitcoms in the early '70s, the networks were riddled with 'snore-coms'. Among them being, My Three Sons, Family Affair, and Petticoat Junction.
Since MTM has been mentioned, let's look at "snore-com" Family Affair vs. The Bob Newhart Show from MTM. One takes place in a big apartment in NYC, one in an apartment in Chicago. Both sometimes have scenes in the lead character's place of business. Neither is wild nor plays up anything for great excitement.

So despite TBNS having more humor, how is one a "snore-com" but the other isn't? In my opinion, both are good series and both hold my interest. Putting down one type of domestic sitcom in favor of another is unfair and idiotic. There are eps of TBNS that are far slower paced than many of FA. This is another example of a thread based on imbecilic negativity that serves no purpose.

As much as I like his shows, Bob Newhart could put someone to sleep with his slow mannerisms as much as anyone. Family Affair scenes ventured out into the city regularly. When were the times TBNS had an outdoor scene, aside from a single "camp" ep? FA used far more sets and locales, while TBNS was extremely limited to indoor office scenes. Unfair slams of the non-MTM and Lear sitcoms. "Snore" my ass. TMC please stop spamming this site with the unfair negativity of imbeciles who have NO appreciation of well-loved sitcoms. End of rant.
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Since MTM has been mentioned, let's look at "snore-com" Family Affair vs. The Bob Newhart Show from MTM. One takes place in a big apartment in NYC, one in an apartment in Chicago. Both sometimes have scenes in the lead character's place of business. Neither is wild nor plays up anything for great excitement.

So despite TBNS having more humor, how is one a "snore-com" but the other isn't? In my opinion, both are good series and both hold my interest. Putting down one type of domestic sitcom in favor of another is unfair and idiotic. There are eps of TBNS that are far slower paced than many of FA. This is another example of a thread based on imbecilic negativity that serves no purpose.

As much as I like his shows, Bob Newhart could put someone to sleep with his slow mannerisms as much as anyone. Family Affair scenes ventured out into the city regularly. When were the times TBNS had an outdoor scene, aside from a single "camp" ep? FA used far more sets and locales, while TBNS was extremely limited to indoor office scenes. Unfair slams of the non-MTM and Lear sitcoms. "Snore" my ass. TMC please stop spamming this site with the unfair negativity of imbeciles who have NO appreciation of well-loved sitcoms. End of rant.
Let me clarify for a moment. Many of these sitcoms from that particular time frame (say, beginning when sitcoms started being produced in color around 1965) had a decidedly subdued, understated, and quiet vibe if that makes sense. They seemed more like down to earth, mildly amusing dramedies instead of wacky, upbeat, out and out comedies or farces. I'm not personally saying that so-called "snore-coms" were all around bad per se. It's just like I said, their general vibes were decidedly low-key, cozy, and sterile when compared to the multi-camera, filmed before a studio audience sitcoms that would come after (like The Mary Tyler Moore Show, All in the Family, Sanford and Son, etc.).

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By "heart comedy", I mean sitcoms (particularly, those from the 1960s) where the emphasis was on the stories, life lessons, and warm, wholesome, sentimental moments. Besides The Brady Bunch, My Three Sons, Family Affair, or The Courtship of Eddie’s Father are examples of these types of shows.
Did the end of The Brady Bunch in 1974 also mark the end of the "heart comedy" trend? By "heart comedy", I mean sitcoms (particularly, those from the 1960s) where the emphasis was on the stories, life lessons, and warm, wholesome, sentimental moments. Besides The Brady Bunch, My Three Sons, Family Affair, or The Courtship of Eddie’s Father are examples of these types of shows.

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The end of The Brady Bunch in 1974 did not mark the end of the "heart comedy" but rather symbolized a major shift away from that style. Beginning in the early 1970s, producer Norman Lear revolutionized the sitcom with a new genre of socially conscious comedies that addressed hot-button issues, replacing the gentle, wholesome feel of 1960s family shows.

The shift from "heart comedy" to social relevance

The change in sitcom trends was driven by several factors:
  • The rural purge: In the early 1970s, CBS, looking for a younger, more urban audience, canceled a slate of older-skewing, rural-themed sitcoms, including Green Acres and The Beverly Hillbillies. This created an opening for new types of shows to succeed.
  • All in the Family and Norman Lear: In 1971, Norman Lear's All in the Family became a phenomenon by centering on a bigoted, blue-collar patriarch and his battles with his liberal son-in-law. The show proved that comedy could be used to explore serious social issues like racism, sexism, and war. Its immense success paved the way for other shows to follow suit.
  • Expansion of the socially conscious style: This trend led to a new wave of sitcoms that directly tackled issues, including spin-offs from All in the Family itself.
    • Maude (1972–1978) dealt with feminism and abortion.
    • Good Times (1974–1979) focused on a poor Black family living in a Chicago housing project.
    • The Jeffersons (1975–1985) explored issues of race and class through the story of a successful Black family who "moved on up" to a luxury apartment in Manhattan.

Legacy of the wholesome sitcoms

While Norman Lear's productions were dominating the ratings and changing the perception of the sitcom, wholesome family comedies did not completely disappear. The 1970s did feature some shows with a gentler approach that sometimes included life lessons.
  • Happy Days (1974–1984): This show initially featured family dynamics and life lessons before its focus shifted over its run.
  • The Waltons (1972–1981): A drama with comedic and sentimental moments that was extremely popular in the 1970s.

However, the "heart comedy" style as the dominant form of the family sitcom gave way to edgier, more topical programming. After the rise of Norman Lear and MTM Enterprises (producer of The Mary Tyler Moore Show), shows that avoided social issues or felt out-of-touch were seen as old-fashioned. Later in the 1980s, the "feel-good" family sitcom would make a comeback with shows like The Cosby Show and Family Ties, though these were often more polished and less overtly sentimental than their 1960s predecessors.
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That’s a really good question — you’re pointing to a real tonal shift in sitcoms in the mid-1970s.

The type of sitcom you’re describing — what you’re calling “heart comedy” — was indeed a strong current in the 1960s and early 1970s: My Three Sons, Family Affair, The Courtship of Eddie’s Father, The Brady Bunch, even earlier models like The Donna Reed Show or Leave It to Beaver. These programs typically leaned on gentle humor, moral lessons, family bonding, and sentimentality rather than sharp satire or social critique.

When The Brady Bunch ended in 1974, it did coincide almost exactly with the decline of that trend as the mainstream norm. A few things explain why:

Why “heart comedies” faded in the mid-1970s
  • The Norman Lear revolution: Sitcoms like All in the Family (1971), Maude (1972), and Good Times (1974) shifted the sitcom center of gravity toward topical, issue-driven, socially realistic comedy. These shows dealt with race, class, gender, and politics, and the industry chased that success.
  • The MTM style: The Mary Tyler Moore Show (1970) and later Rhoda and Phyllis pioneered workplace/friendship sitcoms that mixed wit, character depth, and subtle drama, appealing to urban, adult audiences.
  • Changing tastes: By the mid-1970s, younger audiences and advertisers wanted programming that felt more modern, urban, and relevant to contemporary life, as opposed to the “storybook warmth” of suburban family sitcoms.

Did The Brady Bunch’s end “mark” the end?

Not a hard cutoff, but it symbolizes the waning of the era. Other “heart comedies” were winding down:
  • My Three Sons ended in 1972.
  • The Courtship of Eddie’s Father ended in 1972.
  • Family Affair ended in 1971.
  • Even The Partridge Family (a more musical spin on the idea) ended in 1974.

By the fall 1974 TV season, family sitcoms with moral lessons had mostly disappeared from prime time. What few survived (Happy Days, debuting in 1974, or later Eight Is Enough in 1977) were more nostalgic or melodramatic, not quite the same gentle “lesson of the week” style of the 1960s.

Aftermath

“Heart comedy” didn’t vanish forever — it resurfaced in syndication (reruns of those ‘60s/‘70s shows built nostalgia) and later in the 1980s “family sitcom revival” (Family Ties, The Cosby Show, Growing Pains), which updated the formula for a new generation. But between 1974 and the early 1980s, the networks leaned far more heavily on sharper, topical, and urban comedies.

👉 So in short: yes, The Brady Bunch’s 1974 finale pretty much bookends the end of the 1960s “heart comedy” era on network TV. It wasn’t the sole cause, but its cancellation coincided with the cultural and industrial turn away from sentimental family sitcoms toward edgier, more socially conscious, or more adult-oriented comedy.

Would you like me to map out the “bridge” shows of the mid-70s (like Happy Days, One Day at a Time, Eight Is Enough) that tried to carry forward elements of “heart comedy” while adapting to the new era?
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I wish there were more of these conservative family oriented shows today. I really cannot stand what was started with shows like the Office and Seinfeld. I don't need that kind of sarcasm.
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Some of the hard-edged sitcoms of the 70s softened somewhat over their years. Maude ditched "God'll get ya," George J. abandoned "honkey," and Good Times kinda became a mess, with stars departing and some returning, and clown J. J. stealing the show.

The workplace comedy wasn't new with the 1970s; The Dick Van Dyke Show really pioneered that in 1961.
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I wish there were more of these conservative family oriented shows today. I really cannot stand what was started with shows like the Office and Seinfeld. I don't need that kind of sarcasm.
One problem with The Office and probably others like 30 Rock is their ratings don't justify their long runs. The highest rating rank for The Office was #52.
My guess is it scored high in NY and LA but, but the rest of the country wasn't watching.

Now Seinfeld was extremely popular.
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