Movies and TV Shows Retaining Uppercase-Only Closed-Captioning on Streaming Debate - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

James28 · 12-16-2024, 11:57 PM

During the mid-to-late 2010s, there has been a gradual shift of closed-captioning for scripted and non-live programming from all-capital-letters to mixed-case or sentence-case. However, there remains a significant amount of movies, and a few TV series-es, that retain their decades-old uppercase-only closed-captioning on SVoD platforms like Tubi and The Roku Channel. A lot of Warner Bros.'s best old films (including the MGM films released prior to 1986) still have not had their CC converted to lowercase on SVoD platforms as of 2024. But what about the non-WB films retaining their old capitals-only CC on SVoD? Specifically, any old movie or TV show with CC styles 1 and 4 on this list (those styles look the most antagonizing). Most of those programs' CC was done by either the National Captioning Institute or VITAC.

I'll give you some examples of the films and TV shows whose lack of mixed-case CC when available on SVoD I'm upset about right now (especially given that none of them are owned by Warner Bros.).

Films
On Golden Pond
Shampoo (1975)
Raging Bull
Braveheart
The Legend of Billie Jean

TV Series
Green Acres
Family Ties
Diff'rent Strokes
Gimme a Break!
Pee-Wee's Playhouse

James28 · 01-04-2025, 06:00 AM

Closed-captioning check for this week's list:

Yep, yep, all good this week... except for Strong Medicine. Only season one of that Lifetime series has sentence case CC, and its remaining five seasons have uppercase-only VITAC CC. I despise VITAC's dreadful all-capitals CC style. Never mind that some episodes of Strong Medicine are missing on The Roku Channel; If you can't have the entire series have sentence-case CC for SVoD, don't bother offering that series on SVoD at all.

snowpeck · 01-04-2025, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by James28

Closed-captioning check for this week's list:

Yep, yep, all good this week... except for Strong Medicine. Only season one of that Lifetime series has sentence case CC, and its remaining five seasons have uppercase-only VITAC CC. I despise VITAC's dreadful all-capitals CC style. Never mind that some episodes of Strong Medicine are missing on The Roku Channel; If you can't have the entire series have sentence-case CC for SVoD, don't bother offering that series on SVoD at all.

I thought everyone agreed to move this silly closed captioning debate elsewhere.

James28 · 01-04-2025, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by snowpeck

I thought everyone agreed to move this silly closed captioning debate elsewhere.

IT'S NOT SILLY!

Not the appropriate word for this. How is a distributor making its old shows retain their uppercase-only CC on streaming while a lot of other programs already had their CC changed to lowercase "silly"? I LIKE FOR MY FAVORITE TV PROGRAMS TO HAVE ONLY SENTENCE CASE CLOSED-CAPTIONING.

Sal · 01-04-2025, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by James28

IT'S NOT SILLY!

Not the appropriate word for this. How is a distributor making its old shows retain their uppercase-only CC on streaming while a lot of other programs already had their CC changed to lowercase "silly"? I LIKE FOR MY FAVORITE TV PROGRAMS TO HAVE ONLY SENTENCE CASE CLOSED-CAPTIONING.

You're right, it's not silly, it's STUPID!!!!!! Please go away. You're ruining my whole page.

TJ · 01-04-2025, 05:33 PM

James28,

Please stop hijacking threads. I moved posts to this thread.

James28 · 01-04-2025, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sal

You're right, it's not silly, it's STUPID!!!!!! Please go away. You're ruining my whole page.

SAL, I WANT THOSE ALL-CAPS VITAC CAPTIONS GONE, AND I MEAN IT!

I'm not kidding around. We're not going to have all-caps CC in 2025.

JamesG · 01-04-2025, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by James28

We're not going to have all-caps CC in 2025.

Yes, we are. Mwa-ha ha

Dude111 · 01-04-2025, 07:20 PM

I dont wanna make anyone mad but I like all uppercase in the CC

James28 · 01-04-2025, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesG

Yes, we are. Mwa-ha ha

^^F**k. You.

Dude111 · 01-04-2025, 07:25 PM

Hehe lets be nice now

Whats the problem Jimmy with all uppercase buddy?

James28 · 01-04-2025, 07:49 PM

^^Forget it, I never wanted to butt heads with hardheads, anyway.

Dude111 · 01-05-2025, 01:49 PM

Im sorry your having a hard time,I dont wanna make it harder for ya...

Your right if they used the proper case it wouldnt be bad... I think its easier for them to send it all one case and I have noticed ppl usually take the easy way out...

I hope your happier soon honey,im sorry your upset...

Thank you Jimmy for being a valued member with us

James28 · 01-05-2025, 11:58 PM

^^All-caps CC is being phased out for scripted programs on SVoD. What are you going to do to stop such a phase-out?

JamesG · 01-06-2025, 01:35 AM

^ Are you making the decisions? Do you work for the networks or the VPDs in charge of closed-captioning distribution? Are you making the rules?

Do you have any other reason other than "not liking" all capital CC? What's the deal here and why does it matter so much? Tell me in plain English.

12-16-2024, 11:57 PM	#1
James28 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 14, 2007 Posts: 3,982	Movies and TV Shows Retaining Uppercase-Only Closed-Captioning on Streaming Debate During the mid-to-late 2010s, there has been a gradual shift of closed-captioning for scripted and non-live programming from all-capital-letters to mixed-case or sentence-case. However, there remains a significant amount of movies, and a few TV series-es, that retain their decades-old uppercase-only closed-captioning on SVoD platforms like Tubi and The Roku Channel. A lot of Warner Bros.'s best old films (including the MGM films released prior to 1986) still have not had their CC converted to lowercase on SVoD platforms as of 2024. But what about the non-WB films retaining their old capitals-only CC on SVoD? Specifically, any old movie or TV show with CC styles 1 and 4 on this list (those styles look the most antagonizing). Most of those programs' CC was done by either the National Captioning Institute or VITAC. I'll give you some examples of the films and TV shows whose lack of mixed-case CC when available on SVoD I'm upset about right now (especially given that none of them are owned by Warner Bros.). Films On Golden Pond Shampoo (1975) Raging Bull Braveheart The Legend of Billie Jean TV Series Green Acres Family Ties Diff'rent Strokes Gimme a Break! Pee-Wee's Playhouse
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01-04-2025, 06:00 AM	#2
James28 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 14, 2007 Posts: 3,982	Closed-captioning check for this week's list: Yep, yep, all good this week... except for Strong Medicine. Only season one of that Lifetime series has sentence case CC, and its remaining five seasons have uppercase-only VITAC CC. I despise VITAC's dreadful all-capitals CC style. Never mind that some episodes of Strong Medicine are missing on The Roku Channel; If you can't have the entire series have sentence-case CC for SVoD, don't bother offering that series on SVoD at all.

01-04-2025, 05:33 PM	#6
TJ Site Owner Administrator Forum Star Join Date: Feb 03, 2000 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 10,689	James28, Please stop hijacking threads. I moved posts to this thread.

01-04-2025, 07:20 PM	#9
Dude111 Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 05, 2013 Posts: 36,403	I dont wanna make anyone mad but I like all uppercase in the CC

01-04-2025, 07:25 PM	#11
Dude111 Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 05, 2013 Posts: 36,403	Hehe lets be nice now Whats the problem Jimmy with all uppercase buddy?

01-04-2025, 07:49 PM	#12
James28 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 14, 2007 Posts: 3,982	^^Forget it, I never wanted to butt heads with hardheads, anyway.

01-05-2025, 01:49 PM	#13
Dude111 Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 05, 2013 Posts: 36,403	Im sorry your having a hard time,I dont wanna make it harder for ya... Your right if they used the proper case it wouldnt be bad... I think its easier for them to send it all one case and I have noticed ppl usually take the easy way out... I hope your happier soon honey,im sorry your upset... Thank you Jimmy for being a valued member with us

01-05-2025, 11:58 PM	#14
James28 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 14, 2007 Posts: 3,982	^^All-caps CC is being phased out for scripted programs on SVoD. What are you going to do to stop such a phase-out?

01-06-2025, 01:35 AM	#15
JamesG Freakshow Moderator Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 01, 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 57,136	^ Are you making the decisions? Do you work for the networks or the VPDs in charge of closed-captioning distribution? Are you making the rules? Do you have any other reason other than "not liking" all capital CC? What's the deal here and why does it matter so much? Tell me in plain English.