UM cases local to you

[dynoguy88]

Originally Posted by SPD Yellow

I live in Oklahoma, so I guess the Wendy Camp case counts. I’ve lived all over the state, but probably the closest I was to Shamrock, was when I lived in Cleveland in Pawnee County, which is near Creek County where Shamrock is located.

I've snooped around Shamrock on Google Street View and to say it's a 'blink and you'll miss it' town would be an understatement. According to the 2020 census, the population of Shamrock is 65 people. 65. It's literally a handful of homes, some trailers, a tiny church, tiny museum and a FedEx that is about the size of an outhouse. There's some semblance of an old gas station that looks like it's been closed for decades.

It's just the type of place I'd expect Beverly Noe to live. Desolate, barren, gloomy looking, hidden away from society and people in general.

[Killarney Rose]

I’m about an hour north of Panama City Beach. We were at PCB when Pamela June Ray vanished. That case has always stuck with me. The pouring rain and heavy police presence up and down Front Beach Road.

[GyorkLady]

I am not ashamed to admit that I live in the same small Illinois town where Jim Boumgarden lived; his son was one of my classmates in school. The college I attended was 30 minutes away from Galesburg, where Danny Williams allegedly committed suicide.

And while he may not have committed his crimes near where I live, Rick Church is currently imprisoned about 35 minutes southwest of where I live.

[Labonte18]

Walter Rice is local to me. He died and wasn't discovered for about a year, with his ~$100k in savings going to the state when they couldn't find heirs.. I've posted photos here and uploaded a couple of YouTube videos showing where his house (trailer) was and his grave.

Folks here and on reddit have.. Pretty much identified him as a relative of baseball HoFer Jim Rice.

Sam Wodke.. Robbed a grocery store, killed a constable and then escaped prison.. One of our local news anchors, Carol Goldsmith was an eyewitness to the robbery and appeared on the show.

And, of course, the Lori Reaves web exclusive case that, more or less, I solved.. Finding her buried under the wrong name at the Richland County Cemetery. I stumbled across this case while looking into the Walter Rice case, which.. Is one of those that just stuck with me over the years.


Most of the SC cases have been solved. If you look at the list..

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com...South_Carolina

They're either solved, or have a very sketchy connection to SC to start with.. The outstanding one is the Blue Ridge Savings murders.. It's believed the person responsible for that is dead, but.. Can't fully prove it.

Others.. Like Carlos Garcia/Fernando Zapico.. His case really had no connection to SC.. He just had other charges in SC.


FWIW.. This is the old bank building that the murders happened in. So far as I recall, that building has been vacant since the bank was taken over by FDIC.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GrdNdLvyyqjf39He9

This is the former rental car place that Emerson Wright stole the car from. https://maps.app.goo.gl/5GofXaKsividX7pe8

Roughly a half mile up the road.

[schmave]

A few here ...
Michael Swango, Tina Resch, Tony Lombardi and Jessica Keen all have direct ties to my hometown of Columbus. Lombardi lived in the suburb of Westerville.
The first victim mentioned in the Ohio prostitute murders segment was found about 15 miles east of me, off Interstate 70 at the Ohio 37 exit.
Reynoldsburg, where I lived before moving to a neighboring suburb, was mentioned in the Victor Simon segment.
And Circleville, home of the infamous letters, is about 25 miles to my south-southwest. Pickaway County neighbors my county, Fairfield.

[Schemer]

There were a few Pittsburgh cases over the years, but the closest one to me was Art Jones in Fallowfield, PA (I was living in Ginger Hill, PA at the time, which is a part of Fallowfield). I know it was one of those short ones, but they did interview Sam Woncheck, who was the chief of police and was friends with my mom. Also, my younger brother once pooped on him while he was holding him. Can't think of anything closer than that.

[DALLASTEXAN!!]

Originally Posted by schmave

A few here ...
Michael Swango, Tina Resch, Tony Lombardi and Jessica Keen all have direct ties to my hometown of Columbus. Lombardi lived in the suburb of Westerville.
The first victim mentioned in the Ohio prostitute murders segment was found about 15 miles east of me, off Interstate 70 at the Ohio 37 exit.
Reynoldsburg, where I lived before moving to a neighboring suburb, was mentioned in the Victor Simon segment.
And Circleville, home of the infamous letters, is about 25 miles to my south-southwest. Pickaway County neighbors my county, Fairfield.

I used to live in Butler County between Cincinnati and Dayton. I was very aware of the Truck Driver segment because I drove around a lot on all of the Ohio interstates and beyond to the other neighboring states. I even spent a couple of weeks at the Gettysburg college where the ghost segment took place. those were fun times. I enjoyed my time in that area. IIRC they had civil war battlefield night tours for ghost watching. I never went, but some of my co-workers did.

As a young kid I lived close to the area where Tara Breckenridge lived. I often rode with my mom and dad in the very area that her car was found. I also lived close to where Patsy Wright lived in Arlington.

I've also lived in the UK, North Carolina, Phoenix, and live in Las Vegas now. several segments caught my eye in those areas. The Norwich, UK, Castle (museum) is featured on a psychic segment. I've been there. One near phoenix where I lived, was the Pam Page segment. On the reenactment they have a psychic that talks about a particular location next to train tracks in Peoria, AZ. There are train tracks, but I was unable to find that location. although I searched at one point. I know that Tempe and Scottsdale are featured on several segments. and the phoenix lights. local folklore from my time there in 2005-2009 was that people were attaching lights to helium balloons and releasing them. For Las Vegas local news here still talks about the Tupac case. It seems as if a lot of the Vegas segments were solved. I guess the most recent thing that could be seen is the Buffalo Jim Netflix segment. Las Vegas has changed a lot over the years, perhaps more than any other place I've lived or visited. Buffalo Jim's house is close to the Air Force base. I can see the neighborhood from the Air Force base. his house is at the base of Frenchman Mountain. I've also hiked to the top of the mountain several times. while Buffalo Jim's particular street is probably safe, there is a lot of crime nearby. I always see police lights on the horizon at night on the Eastside. I've felt nervous hiking the mountain because there are a lot of drifters and thieves in the area and bodies have been found there. I've heard gun shots every time I've hiked there. People apparently do target practice nearby, but you never know when it comes to that part of town. Lake Mead is on the other side of the mountain and over the last few years as the lake level drops, authorities keep finding bodies.

In the near feature I plan to visit Marfa to go to the Marfa lights viewing if it is still there and I think it is.

[schmave]

When we would drive to Cincinnati for Reds games, which was frequent during my childhood, occasionally I wondered where along 71 the one victim was dumped in Warren County. I don't know if that portion of the segment was filmed along that stretch of 71, and now I doubt it was, but as a kid if I saw the segment I tried to recognize where it could be.
I also lived in Houston for a time and recognize a lot of places filmed in that segment (not the clubs themselves!), especially that stretch of 610 between I-10 and 290 where Tara's car was found.

[Hambone2421]

Everything associated with the Tara Breckenridge case happened about 15 minutes away from where I grew up.

[mphs95]

I'm right in the middle of MI, so I'm about 2-3 hours away from most of the MI UM cases:

John Burns - South Lyon
Marilyn DePue - Coldwater
Dave Davis - Hillsdale
Elmer DeBoer/Missy Munday/Jerry Strickland - Pontiac
Jack Brown - Ypsilanti
Gordon Page - GR
Howard Drummond - Lansing
Pat Mealbach -- Dearborn

[Zoso fan]

Originally Posted by dynoguy88

I've snooped around Shamrock on Google Street View and to say it's a 'blink and you'll miss it' town would be an understatement. According to the 2020 census, the population of Shamrock is 65 people. 65. It's literally a handful of homes, some trailers, a tiny church, tiny museum and a FedEx that is about the size of an outhouse. There's some semblance of an old gas station that looks like it's been closed for decades.

It's just the type of place I'd expect Beverly Noe to live. Desolate, barren, gloomy looking, hidden away from society and people in general.

I've looked at Shamrock too out of curiosity and man. I thought Cairo, Illinois was abandoned looking. Shamrock is much spookier looking and surprising there's actually a very small museum there. I forget the street, but if you go down the road there's a random abandoned baseball field that's completely overgrown somewhere by the Shamrock/Dunright border. I wondered when was the last time anybody played baseball there? 40-50 years ago? It's anybody's guess where the Noe's property would be. Have you seen the street where the unleashed dogs go chasing after the Google Maps car? Lol

[Zoso fan]

Also, I don't know what would constitute local. Meaning living around less than 50 miles to where the crime took place? The only ones I can think of off the top of my head would be the Richard rampage incident and the cop Ralph Probst getting shot in Cook County when it comes to the area I live in. For some reason, it seems like not a lot of UM cases happened in Illinois as compared to other Midwestern states like Michigan or Ohio.

[DetailsTellAll]

I used to live down the street from the bar where Hilda Roche met Gregory Barker. The name of the bar was Rafters in Alexandria, VA. The bar has changed names and ownership many times since. It went from Rafters, to Bennigans, to Alley Cat. If you put in the address "1 S Whiting Street, Alexandria, VA" into Google Maps and click "Street View" you can see the outside of the bar. I went in there before when it was known as Alley Cat but left quickly because literally no one was inside, even though the lights were on. This was before they shut down, of course. Now, the bar has been left abandoned.

[DALLASTEXAN!!]

Originally Posted by schmave

When we would drive to Cincinnati for Reds games, which was frequent during my childhood, occasionally I wondered where along 71 the one victim was dumped in Warren County. I don't know if that portion of the segment was filmed along that stretch of 71, and now I doubt it was, but as a kid if I saw the segment I tried to recognize where it could be.
I also lived in Houston for a time and recognize a lot of places filmed in that segment (not the clubs themselves!), especially that stretch of 610 between I-10 and 290 where Tara's car was found.

I've looked for that same stretch of 71 and could never spot it either.

[schmave]

My guess, if it was in fact filmed along 71, was somewhere between the bridge over the Little Miami River and the Lebanon exits. While that segment plays fast and loose with Ohio geography, including calling Licking and Medina counties "nearby" each other and saying Austintown is 150 miles north of Columbus when it's closer to 200 miles northeast, that is my best guess when it comes to the Warren County portion.