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vitoscotti · 02-14-2017, 03:25 PM

Do you think the series stalls a bit when jf turns nice guy?

Retro4Life · 02-14-2017, 08:04 PM

Not really. If they kept him evil and non-conflicted, he would have exhausted his story possibilities pretty quickly. IIRC, even after he became somewhat sympathetic, he still sort of went back and forth between "anti hero" and I guess, "anti villain".

If they had not made him a complex character, the show would have been dead two years before it was, IMO, if not sooner.

vitoscotti · 02-15-2017, 04:58 AM

All true. But, the episodes were great the more rotten he was.

Retro4Life · 02-15-2017, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vitoscotti

All true. But, the episodes were great the more rotten he was.

I don't agree. Complexity is almost always more interesting than out and out villainy. He was a good bad guy, but he was also a good anti-hero. I think they were wise in wanting to strike a balance.

vitoscotti · 02-15-2017, 01:18 PM

Everyone is different what piques their interest. When Frid was a rat I couldn't get enough of it.
I still enjoy it but its not edge of your seat.

DoctorJuliaHoffman · 02-16-2017, 08:35 AM

He could be very menacing as Barnabas. Make-up was a very important factor in how scary Barnabas could be. Sometimes they got his make-up just right and it was superb. Other times it was cartoonish which could somewhat lessen the overall effect of his presence and the episode(s). I didn't mind nice Barnabas nor his touching devotion to his little sister Sarah. The thing that sometimes irks me is his over-the-top obsession with Josette.

vitoscotti · 02-16-2017, 01:09 PM

He was hated by the viewer when he was a serial killing insane heartless shrewd piece of crap.
But, it was intense when he came close to getting his but wiggled out of it all the time.

I particularly liked the sheriff who almost unraveled the mess.

The woman who played Sarah said frid (a notorious line flubber)would help her with her lines before a shoot.

I dont have a clue how to use the controls at the top of this box?

Nice that a post can be edited after the fact.

stevea · 12-29-2024, 11:00 PM

Mr. Frid on "What's My Line?", complete with fangs --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZZvxTmdFaU

vitoscotti · 12-30-2024, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stevea

Mr. Frid on "What's My Line?", complete with fangs --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZZvxTmdFaU

Only 2 minutes in the color episodes of WML to question and guess the celebrity. Would have been interesting with a little more time if they would have got him.

stevea · 12-30-2024, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vitoscotti

Only 2 minutes in the color episodes of WML to question and guess the celebrity. Would have been interesting with a little more time if they would have got him.

In the color episodes they're too busy doing silly demonstrations (like I've Got a Secret does) to give enough time for interesting mystery guests.

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Retro4Life Accept No Substitutes Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 04, 2009 Location: IL Posts: 6,706	Not really. If they kept him evil and non-conflicted, he would have exhausted his story possibilities pretty quickly. IIRC, even after he became somewhat sympathetic, he still sort of went back and forth between "anti hero" and I guess, "anti villain". If they had not made him a complex character, the show would have been dead two years before it was, IMO, if not sooner.
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02-14-2017, 03:25 PM	#1
vitoscotti Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 14, 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,066	Do you think the series stalls a bit when jf turns nice guy?

02-15-2017, 04:58 AM	#3
vitoscotti Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 14, 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,066	All true. But, the episodes were great the more rotten he was.

02-15-2017, 01:18 PM	#5
vitoscotti Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 14, 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,066	Everyone is different what piques their interest. When Frid was a rat I couldn't get enough of it. I still enjoy it but its not edge of your seat.

02-16-2017, 08:35 AM	#6
DoctorJuliaHoffman Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 15, 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 39	He could be very menacing as Barnabas. Make-up was a very important factor in how scary Barnabas could be. Sometimes they got his make-up just right and it was superb. Other times it was cartoonish which could somewhat lessen the overall effect of his presence and the episode(s). I didn't mind nice Barnabas nor his touching devotion to his little sister Sarah. The thing that sometimes irks me is his over-the-top obsession with Josette.

02-16-2017, 01:09 PM	#7
vitoscotti Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 14, 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,066	He was hated by the viewer when he was a serial killing insane heartless shrewd piece of crap. But, it was intense when he came close to getting his but wiggled out of it all the time. I particularly liked the sheriff who almost unraveled the mess. The woman who played Sarah said frid (a notorious line flubber)would help her with her lines before a shoot. I dont have a clue how to use the controls at the top of this box? Nice that a post can be edited after the fact.

12-29-2024, 11:00 PM	#8
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,238	Mr. Frid on "What's My Line?", complete with fangs -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZZvxTmdFaU