Watching Edith talk to the loan officer at the bank was so irritating

[TVFactFan]

Why the hell was she mad at the Loan officer and she had no assets or steady income? Then her goofy ass is going to ask the man would you give me the loan if I was a man? I would have said...........IF he had a full time job and assets you damm right


Then she gets mad and wants to close the accounts she had at the bank. The man should have said........"if something was in them u wouldnt have to close them LOL

[BestTVever]

As a married woman Archie's assets are her assets. She owned her own home. The issue was she was trying to get a loan without her husband's knowledge as a surprise gift. The scene highlighted the problems with women as homemakers. She had assets and she had power of the purse in her marriage yet the bank said no.

[Charles Knox]

Originally Posted by BestTVever

As a married woman Archie's assets are her assets. She owned her own home. The issue was she was trying to get a loan without her husband's knowledge as a surprise gift. The scene highlighted the problems with women as homemakers. She had assets and she had power of the purse in her marriage yet the bank said no.

In that case, it is a joint account and both parties need to be present or the other joint partner gives written consent about being aware that one party is about to take out a loan that will have to be paid back with compounding interest.

Leave the politics at home and think about the situation from a logical standpoint of,... would I want my partner secretly taking out a loan for a used television set before having a discussion?

Real life isn't the same as television playlife ,where bank loans always get paid back on-time and there is always just enough money in the checking account for food, mortage /rent, car payment, utilities, medical and etc.

[TVFactFan]

Originally Posted by BestTVever

As a married woman Archie's assets are her assets. She owned her own home. The issue was she was trying to get a loan without her husband's knowledge as a surprise gift. The scene highlighted the problems with women as homemakers. She had assets and she had power of the purse in her marriage yet the bank said no.

see she was too dipsy to realize she did have assets and was a home owner and had bank account. When asked did she own anything she said........."just the clothes on my back

[BestTVever]

Originally Posted by Charles Knox

In that case, it is a joint account and both parties need to be present or the other joint partner gives written consent about being aware that one party is about to take out a loan that will have to be paid back with compounding interest.

Leave the politics at home and think about the situation from a logical standpoint of,... would I want my partner secretly taking out a loan for a used television set before having a discussion?

Real life isn't the same as television playlife ,where bank loans always get paid back on-time and there is always just enough money in the checking account for food, mortage /rent, car payment, utilities, medical and etc.

OMG What? Leave the politics at home? My response had nothing to do with politics. Good grief you cant even discuss a sitcom anymore without someone injecting politics into it.
Yes we all understand sitcom life is not real life. There is nothing political about that

[Dude111]

Edith just didnt know I guess.... Archie was better at that..

[TVFactFan]

Originally Posted by BestTVever

OMG What? Leave the politics at home? My response had nothing to do with politics. Good grief you cant even discuss a sitcom anymore without someone injecting politics into it.
Yes we all understand sitcom life is not real life. There is nothing political about that

Edith goofy ass made it a gender issue, it was an asset issue

[BestTVever]

Originally Posted by TVFactFan

Edith goofy ass made it a gender issue, it was an asset issue

In the 1970s, women were just breaking out into the workforce. She made a point about being a housewife not being a real job. It was not politics but reality of the times. Back then women were paid less then men for the same job. Women were not seen as managers, etc. There is even the All In The Family episode "The Riddle" that no one guesses that a woman was the doctor. The 1970s was a huge transition decade. Women started working outside the home while still having families. Families started getting a second car. I don't even think Edith drove which was not that uncommon back then. Like most Normal Lear sitcoms and All In The Family episodes there was a teaching moment based on current events of the times.

[TVFactFan]

Originally Posted by BestTVever

In the 1970s, women were just breaking out into the workforce. She made a point about being a housewife not being a real job. It was not politics but reality of the times. Back then women were paid less then men for the same job. Women were not seen as managers, etc. There is even the All In The Family episode "The Riddle" that no one guesses that a woman was the doctor. The 1970s was a huge transition decade. Women started working outside the home while still having families. Families started getting a second car. I don't even think Edith drove which was not that uncommon back then. Like most Normal Lear sitcoms and All In The Family episodes there was a teaching moment based on current events of the times.

Men were paid more because they had families to take care of during that time. And I dont know why she was asking the man do he think housewife is real work because it had nothing to do with the loan. If he loaned money to the wrong person he could lose his job so thats why he has to ask is there steady income and do u have assets

[BestTVever]

I did not know this but did you know it was illegal for a single woman to open a bank account in the United States prior to 1974? They needed their spouse to co-sign. This episode watched today by younger people does not make sense to them. Imagine being a single woman and working and not able to open a bank account.

Here it is:

Yes, women in the United States were not allowed to open a bank account on their own until 1974. Before then, banks would often deny credit applications to women, especially single women, or require their husbands to co-sign.
The Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974 made it illegal to discriminate against applicants based on gender, race, religion, or national origin. This law gave women the right to open a bank account or credit card without their husband's permission.
The first bank owned by a woman, The First Women's Bank of New York, opened in 1975. Feminist icon Betty Friedan was among the bank's first depositors.

[TVFactFan]

Beth Holloway and Jean Stapleton really played the hell out of their roles because Edith and Vera are my most hated sitcom characters of all time due to their stupidity

[Dude111]

I mi$$ the good days

[Duster76]

It was not illegal for a woman to have a bank account prior to 1974, that's a myth. Here's a brief discussion of the topic:

"It was not illegal for a woman to hold a bank account prior to the 1960s. Some women did, and some women also held mortgages and other financial products in their own names. Some women were independently wealthy of their spouse or lack thereof.

A lot the women who did hold bank accounts were single — whether they be single mothers, never married, or widowed".

I'm sure there were instances where some smaller financial institutions may have had restrictions, and that's why the law was passed.

Bringing this back to Edith Bunker living in Astoria in the 1970's, I guarantee you she could have opened bank account within walking distance of her home.

[biffbronson]

When my dad opened my 1st savings account for me when I was still a toddler, in the 1960s, it was a woman banker who set up the account. She was single & never married (known to our family). It would've been highly ironic for a woman to be able to start accounts for others, but not for herself...

[BestTVever]

Some of you guys need to read history. True that is was not illegal. That was the wrong word. Many banks in different states required husbands to co-sign loans or even open bank accounts. That is a fact. Each bank had their own policy. Why do you think the Equal Credit Act of 1974 was passed? This episode was a "current event" of its time. Married men could apply for loans without their wife's consent. However when poor Edith or other married women tried they could not get approved without their spouse's consent.
I grew up in the 70s and remember this. Did you also know in the 1970s it was legal for any business or government employer to not allow pregnant women to work? If a woman was pregnant it was legal for the employer to not allow her to work. It was legal to fire a woman just for being pregnant.
In the 1970s how many sitcoms from Alice to All In The Family showed women were not paid the same as men. Even in the All In The Family episode "The Riddle" was profound because women were not to be doctors, only nurses. Interracial marriage was illegal in some states until 1967!!! In most states in the 1970s you could be drunk driving and kill 5 people and never spend a day in jail. Most drunk driving laws were passed in the early 80s. In the 1970s you could legally beat your wife and rape your wife.

Know your history.