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the truth · 01-29-2010, 03:40 PM

Anything worth noting on any of them? I'm looking for some of them on youtube, but man, it's pretty slim pickings. I know she was the Password grand champion, doing more of them than anyone else. I think she did about 86 of them, but she didn't do that many HS episodes. About 20 or so right? I guess they do a week's worth (all five episodes) in one day but have you change wardrobe for each episode and you get it done in an 8-10 hour work day. Be kinda stupid to have guests come back every day to do a shoot.

But I'm curious how she did on there and who she was on there with? These were the Peter Marshall ones, right? Her, Paul Lynde, George Gobel and some of the 70's mainstays I assume.

catlover79 · 01-29-2010, 03:53 PM

Here's an episode -

http://www.sling.com/video/show/1718...-Joan-Rivers-a

This episode, besides Liz, also features:

Carol Channing
Diann Ledow
George Gobel
Joan Rivers
Paul Lynde
Peter Marshall
Rich Little
Robert Foxworth
Sandy Duncan
Vincent Price
Walt Gross

Hope this helps!!

the truth · 01-29-2010, 04:48 PM

Thanks for the link. Really such a different kind of show than Password. You have so much more to do and you have to be really quick-thinking on Password where on the squares, you may not even be called in a half-hour. Sometimes you might get called once and you're rarely ever called on more than three times to answer three questions. Kind of a bore if you're sitting in one of the squares, I'd imagine.

catlover79 · 01-29-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

Thanks for the link. Really such a different kind of show than Password. You have so much more to do and you have to be really quick-thinking on Password where on the squares, you may not even be called in a half-hour. Sometimes you might get called once and you're rarely ever called on more than three times to answer three questions. Kind of a bore if you're sitting in one of the squares, I'd imagine.

My pleasure! To tell the truth, I was never really crazy about Hollywood Squares. I much prefer game shows like Family Feud, Pyramid, Weakest Link, Password, etc.

Larry Tate · 01-29-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

Anything worth noting on any of them? I'm looking for some of them on youtube, but man, it's pretty slim pickings. I know she was the Password grand champion, doing more of them than anyone else. I think she did about 86 of them, but she didn't do that many HS episodes. About 20 or so right? I guess they do a week's worth (all five episodes) in one day but have you change wardrobe for each episode and you get it done in an 8-10 hour work day. Be kinda stupid to have guests come back every day to do a shoot.

But I'm curious how she did on there and who she was on there with? These were the Peter Marshall ones, right? Her, Paul Lynde, George Gobel and some of the 70's mainstays I assume.

Yeah i have 9 of the ones that Liz was on re The Hollywood Squares, i agree with what you say in terms of HS compared to PW, on PW you simply got so much more of Liz then on HS where you had at most 1/2 to 2 min. of a star in the whole show if they were on as much as they could be.

On Password they were there for about 11 minutes so you got much more of them and as well more as themselves while on HS it is a bit more contrived & staged with it being somewhat of an act & being a part rather then just themselves as they are on PW.

PW was more an intellectual interchange while HS was a series of one liners, which was why Paul Lynde was so good at it.

HS was an NBC show & Liz usually was on it when she had an NBC TV Movie upcoming like Dark Victory, The Awakening Land etc.

Yes these were the Peter Marshall Primetime HS episodes & it was generally the norm that all gameshows shot a weeks worth in a single day.

I have 23 of Liz's appearances on PW & PW+ and there were several dozen other appearances she made in the 1971 to 1975 era that have been lost at least for the moment.

I think my estimation would be that Liz was in about 24 HS episodes.

Hopefully they will be found someday soon.

Larry Tate

the truth · 01-29-2010, 10:25 PM

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HS was an NBC show & Liz usually was on it when she had an NBC TV Movie upcoming like Dark Victory, The Awakening Land etc.

Yeah, on the link above, Marshall plugs The Legend of Lizzie Borden at the end calling it a story about a girl and her hatchet.

TV Knowledge Fan · 01-30-2010, 03:08 AM

..Liz's appearances from the nighttime syndicated edition of the show (1973) on GSN, several years ago. It wasn't a good evening for her- never chosen once during the entire program!

catlover79 · 01-30-2010, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TV Knowledge Fan

..Liz's appearances from the nighttime syndicated edition of the show (1973) on GSN, several years ago. It wasn't a good evening for her- never chosen once during the entire program!

Yes, Password was definitely the right game show for her. I would've LOVED to see her on Family Feud!! Was she ever on Pyramid? Jeopardy?

Larry Tate · 01-30-2010, 12:06 PM

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Yes, Password was definitely the right game show for her. I would've LOVED to see her on Family Feud!! Was she ever on Pyramid? Jeopardy?

Sometimes i think that which particular square one was in had a lot to do with who was or was not called upon for tactical reasons.

Password, Password Plus, The Hollywood Squares and a 1955 game show called "Down you Go" were the only Game Shows Elizabeth Montgomery was ever on.

Family Feud ?, she would have had to have her parents & brother be there with her which they never would have considered doing, especially her parent being divorced by then.

Very true though that in Password Liz was in her environment & clearly had a blast.

She loved Jeopardy & watched it regularly & once while on Password Plus even blasted NBC about their dropping it.

Larry Tate

catlover79 · 01-30-2010, 12:53 PM

Well, she could've been on a celebrity version of Family Feud - they would often pit famous male stars opposite famous female stars, "saints vs. sinners", etc. Blasting NBC for cancelling Jeopardy - I'm guessing she wasn't a Lin Bolen fan.

MickeyMac · 01-30-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TV Knowledge Fan

..Liz's appearances from the nighttime syndicated edition of the show (1973) on GSN, several years ago. It wasn't a good evening for her- never chosen once during the entire program!

Thats because I wasnt on the show

catlover79 · 01-30-2010, 03:33 PM

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Thats because I wasnt on the show

the truth · 01-30-2010, 09:09 PM

I was hoping to find Liz on those Dean Martin roasts or the Dean Martin Variety Hour since my dad bought copies of all of them that they offered on those infomercials but best I can tell, she didn't do a single one of them, oh well!

Larry Tate · 01-30-2010, 10:09 PM

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I was hoping to find Liz on those Dean Martin roasts or the Dean Martin Variety Hour since my dad bought copies of all of them that they offered on those infomercials but best I can tell, she didn't do a single one of them, oh well!

No i am pretty sure she never appeared on them, although her sense of humor certainly would have fit in with Dean Martin's, he was great by the way, one of my favorites as a singer & entertainer.

She & Dean got along great when they made
Who's Been Sleeping in bed? together in 1963.

Who was Lin Bolen?, was she a star of a show that replaced Jeopardy?

Larry Tate

catlover79 · 01-31-2010, 09:58 AM

^ Lin Bolen was the NBC Vice President of Daytime Programming, from 1972-78. She was responsible for cancelling several game shows, including Jeopardy and Concentration. She created a show called Stumpers, which was a ripoff of Password (and ironically hosted by Allen Ludden). It was cancelled after only 13 weeks in 1976, and was essentially the beginning of the end of her tenure at NBC. Lin Bolen was also the inspiration for Faye Dunaway's character in the movie Network.

01-29-2010, 03:40 PM	#1
the truth Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 26, 2002 Posts: 403	Tate, you've got Liz on Hollywood Squares, right? Anything worth noting on any of them? I'm looking for some of them on youtube, but man, it's pretty slim pickings. I know she was the Password grand champion, doing more of them than anyone else. I think she did about 86 of them, but she didn't do that many HS episodes. About 20 or so right? I guess they do a week's worth (all five episodes) in one day but have you change wardrobe for each episode and you get it done in an 8-10 hour work day. Be kinda stupid to have guests come back every day to do a shoot. But I'm curious how she did on there and who she was on there with? These were the Peter Marshall ones, right? Her, Paul Lynde, George Gobel and some of the 70's mainstays I assume.

01-29-2010, 03:53 PM	#2
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,376	Here's an episode - http://www.sling.com/video/show/1718...-Joan-Rivers-a This episode, besides Liz, also features: Carol Channing Diann Ledow George Gobel Joan Rivers Paul Lynde Peter Marshall Rich Little Robert Foxworth Sandy Duncan Vincent Price Walt Gross Hope this helps!!
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01-30-2010, 03:08 AM	#7
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	I remember seeing one of... ..Liz's appearances from the nighttime syndicated edition of the show (1973) on GSN, several years ago. It wasn't a good evening for her- never chosen once during the entire program!

01-29-2010, 04:48 PM	#3
the truth Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 26, 2002 Posts: 403	Thanks for the link. Really such a different kind of show than Password. You have so much more to do and you have to be really quick-thinking on Password where on the squares, you may not even be called in a half-hour. Sometimes you might get called once and you're rarely ever called on more than three times to answer three questions. Kind of a bore if you're sitting in one of the squares, I'd imagine.

01-30-2010, 12:53 PM	#10
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,376	Well, she could've been on a celebrity version of Family Feud - they would often pit famous male stars opposite famous female stars, "saints vs. sinners", etc. Blasting NBC for cancelling Jeopardy - I'm guessing she wasn't a Lin Bolen fan.

01-30-2010, 09:09 PM	#13
the truth Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 26, 2002 Posts: 403	I was hoping to find Liz on those Dean Martin roasts or the Dean Martin Variety Hour since my dad bought copies of all of them that they offered on those infomercials but best I can tell, she didn't do a single one of them, oh well!

01-31-2010, 09:58 AM	#15
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,376	^ Lin Bolen was the NBC Vice President of Daytime Programming, from 1972-78. She was responsible for cancelling several game shows, including Jeopardy and Concentration. She created a show called Stumpers, which was a ripoff of Password (and ironically hosted by Allen Ludden). It was cancelled after only 13 weeks in 1976, and was essentially the beginning of the end of her tenure at NBC. Lin Bolen was also the inspiration for Faye Dunaway's character in the movie Network.