Looking For Lottery! (1983) TV Series (Ben Murphy)

[edplattfan]

Hi,
I'm looking for the Lottery! episode "Boston." I have a version but it's in German.

Thanks

[Black Sheep One]

Originally Posted by edplattfan

Hi,
I'm looking for the Lottery! episode "Boston." I have a version but it's in German.

Thanks

Hi, unfortunately Boston: False Illiusion is one of the 7 episodes of Lottery
that I'm currently missing and haven't been able to find. I just found 10
episodes from another source on this forum and he's looking for the same
7 too. We're missing episodes 5-9, 11, and 15.

Episode titles are as follows (do not have any of these):

5 Phoenix: Blood Brothers
6 Portland: Treasure Hunt
7 Kansas City: Protected Winner
8 Charleston: The Spenders
9 New York: Winning Can Be Murder
11 Boston: False Illusion
15 St. Louis: Win Or Lose

Presently member Merlin and I have 10 episodes:
1-4, 10, 12-14 and 16-17. That is all so far.

There are two other members who have 3 of the 7
missing episodes between them but I haven't heard
from either one of them as of yet.

According to online research, there were 8 episodes of Lottery released once upon a time on VHS home video
or so says Worldcat.org that might be in libraries in either film or VHS format. But I would be willing to bet that
if interested parties contacted any of them, they would not even know what the 1983 TV show Lottery was much
less be able to locate it even if they did have it there. Most people in the US have never even heard of or watched it
either originally on ABC-TV or in cable channel airings (late 80's). I do know for a fact that ABC-TV has disposed of
all their original source material for shows from the 80's (film prints/tapes) to make room in their storage vaults.
So from that network's point of view, the older shows are nothing more than trash to be disposed of. More of that
"out with the old, in with the new" junk that's being shoved down our throats today.

Wish I could be of more help. I think I'm doing well to have at least 10
of the total 17 episodes from Lottery at all. Thanks for writing.

Black Sheep One

[edplattfan]

Hi Black Sheep One"

I didn't know ABC did that! No masters or original films??!! As someone who works in tv I find that deplorable. I know I've been looking for The Farmer's Daughter (big William Windom fan. He was in the Lottery! episode I have in German). I have about 85 episodes and they're mostly syndicated prints of 16mm. CBN showed it in the 80s but censored some episodes as they weren't deemed Christian enough. Sony owns them and they were supposed to lend them to Antenna TV in 2011 but reneged. I think it's because the prints were damaged (original 35mm) and there are no masters. Such a shame. I think the Library of Congress should allow people to have access to the shows either during visits or online. Even if a person makes a request for something specific and has to pay a fee to do so. Thanks for the response!

[Silver]

I can't find Merlin. If you're out there hit me up about a trade for Lottery

[Black Sheep One]

Originally Posted by edplattfan

Hi Black Sheep One"

I didn't know ABC did that! No masters or original films??!! As someone who works in tv I find that deplorable. I know I've been looking for The Farmer's Daughter (big William Windom fan. He was in the Lottery! episode I have in German). I have about 85 episodes and they're mostly syndicated prints of 16mm. CBN showed it in the 80s but censored some episodes as they weren't deemed Christian enough. Sony owns them and they were supposed to lend them to Antenna TV in 2011 but reneged. I think it's because the prints were damaged (original 35mm) and there are no masters. Such a shame. I think the Library of Congress should allow people to have access to the shows either during visits or online. Even if a person makes a request for something specific and has to pay a fee to do so. Thanks for the response!

Yes, I'm afraid that was true. This from a source of mine who knows someone who either worked for in past or currently works for ABC-TV
(I assume this was in either NYC or L.A.). I too found it appalling and horrible not to mention devastating as that is a tremendous loss of what
I consider a tragic senseless waste of valuable film history there.

Sorry to hear that about The Farmer's Daughter. Glad you at least have 85 episodes of it. I've learned that several collectors also have sold sets of
William Windom's other series My World And Welcome To It which has also not been officially released by any studios and like FD and Lottery won't be in future. Supposedly not enough demand or profit potential for such older TV shows, especially since they were short-lived (meaning between 1 and 3 seasons originally on network TV. That doesn't really surprise me about Sony. They and Warner Archive had planned to jointly release Season 1 of the 1966-68 Western series Iron Horse starring Dale Robertson in 2013 (which also aired on CBN among other stations including Antenna TV) but for unknown reasons never happened. So all fans of Iron Horse can get are the collectors sets from TV airings of the 47 episodes and pilot movie Scalplock which I had to settle for (combined CBN, Sky One-UK, and other assorted US stations). Fortunately Scalplock was aired uncut on Encore
Westerns Channel separately from the series.

Sony did however surprisingly release respectively Matt Helm (1975, Tony Franciosa), The Outcasts (1968 Western starring Don Murray and Otis Young), and The Quest (1976 Western starring Kurt Russell and Tim Matheson before movies) in France, but not in the US. Matt Helm and Outcasts were ull Screen, The Quest in digital "small square" TV format, but all in English besides French. I have all three plus Gemini Man (1976, Ben Murphy) and The Sixth Sense (1972, Gary Collins) both from Universal (complete series) also released only in France.

Okay, if you thought what ABC-TV did was bad, when the late Jack Webb (Dragnet) retired from "the business", according to the author of his biography My Name Is Friday, he arranged to have all of his personal film prints of the various shows he created/produced destroyed because he was reportedly too cheap to continue paying storage costs for them. Of his series, Universal has only released complete Dragnet 60's, Adam-12 and Emergency officially on DVD. The rest are either lost or Universal won't release them.

And on the 1964 sitcom My Living Doll which was partially released in 2013 by MPI Home Video, the original 35 mm film prints were destroyed (water damage) in a 1994 earthquake in Northridge CA (water got in the vaults and the films were ruined) contrary to reports that producer/creator Jack Chertok of My Favorite Martian series fame burned them after CBS-TV cancelled the series because of low ratings. This was later proven by his estate to be false. A representative of Jack Chertok Productions who was on this forum (hope he still is) has been looking for the remaining 15 episodes surviving 16 mm. film prints for a Volume 2 of MLD but last I heard hasn't found them. He's come close but film collectors he's contacted won't help him and want more money than the company can pay.

Then there's the matter of the 1968-71 drama anthology The Name Of The Game (Universal). Those original film prints miraculously survived the 2008 studio film vault fire (only the music library was lost reportedly) and they still have them but refuse to pay the costs of remastering and restoring them for DVD ($6000-7000 per episode, there were 76 total, I have 63 episodes from TV airings and assorted collector sets). Also there are background music issues preventing a DVD release and about 40 episodes from airing on TV in syndication. In 2014 Timeless Media Group planned to release Season 1 but two people who owned music rights would not give their permission so the release was postponed then cancelled when Shout Factory acquired TMG in 2016. So all there is are 53 episode sets and 1966 pilot movie in the collectors market. That's it.

I recently learned on Home Theater Forum that the Glen Larson produced/created detective series Switch (1975-78) starring Robert Wagner and Eddie Albert the film print masters were burned in the same fire so that is why Switch isn't officially on DVD and only a 69 episode and pilot movie collector set is available anywhere minus the incomplete Season 2 episode Portraits Of Death (his copy was 18 minutes, it's missing the second half of the syndication TV film reel which is presumed lost). Again, a shame and a terrible loss. Those are from 90's US TV airings.

No wonder these older TV series are disappearing. Even the memories of them are fading. Some people don't remember them or watched them, my family for example. Nor do they care apparently. Only fans and collectors do it appears.

If I was in the TV business, I wouldn't stand for it. They restore old movies. The TV shows are just as important. They are part of our country's heritage and history and they deserve much better than they're getting especially from the studios and networks. Are you listening, Hollywood?

Thanks for reading and caring. Black Sheep One. (Robert Conrad fan)

[Black Sheep One]

Originally Posted by edplattfan

Hi Black Sheep One"

I didn't know ABC did that! No masters or original films??!! As someone who works in tv I find that deplorable. I know I've been looking for The Farmer's Daughter (big William Windom fan. He was in the Lottery! episode I have in German). I have about 85 episodes and they're mostly syndicated prints of 16mm. CBN showed it in the 80s but censored some episodes as they weren't deemed Christian enough. Sony owns them and they were supposed to lend them to Antenna TV in 2011 but reneged. I think it's because the prints were damaged (original 35mm) and there are no masters. Such a shame. I think the Library of Congress should allow people to have access to the shows either during visits or online. Even if a person makes a request for something specific and has to pay a fee to do so. Thanks for the response!

Know where I can find the 7 episodes of Lottery?
pisodes 5-9, 11 and 15. Anyone?

[Black Sheep One]

Originally Posted by Silver

I can't find Merlin. If you're out there hit me up about a trade for Lottery

If you can't find or contact Merlin, I have the same 10 episodes from him
and they're transferred to DVD now (from mp4). I have episodes 1-4,
10, 12-14 and 16-17 plus the original network promo for the series.
These are from original ABC-TV airings, not in great shape but watchable and under the "better than nothing" category.

I am missing 7 episodes total of the 17 that ABC-TV originally aired.
Need episodes 5-9, 11 and 15 in English. Willing to trade for these
if you or anyone else has them. It's extremely rare and collectors
I know don't even have it much less ever heard of or watched it.
At least I have over half of the series including an uncut version of
the pilot episode Being A Winner.

Hope to hear from you. Thanks.
Black Sheep One

[Silver]

Originally Posted by Black Sheep One

If you can't find or contact Merlin, I have the same 10 episodes from him
and they're transferred to DVD now (from mp4). I have episodes 1-4,
10, 12-14 and 16-17 plus the original network promo for the series.
These are from original ABC-TV airings, not in great shape but watchable and under the "better than nothing" category.

I am missing 7 episodes total of the 17 that ABC-TV originally aired.
Need episodes 5-9, 11 and 15 in English. Willing to trade for these
if you or anyone else has them. It's extremely rare and collectors
I know don't even have it much less ever heard of or watched it.
At least I have over half of the series including an uncut version of
the pilot episode Being A Winner.

Hope to hear from you. Thanks.
Black Sheep One

I sent you my list before. I guess I don't have anything you are looking for.

[Black Sheep One]

Originally Posted by Silver

I sent you my list before. I guess I don't have anything you are looking for.

Hi Silver,
Yes I did get your list in the PM when you asked about Fall Guy before.
I need to explain my current situation though; not going into too much
details but in August I was diagnosed with Stage 4 esophageal cancer.
I'm undergoing treatment for it. At the present time I won't be able to
do anything trading or DVD related because of procedures, medical
appointments, budget and so forth (can only spend money on priority
things, of which DVD's are not included).

I also saw your recent want list of TV shows from the 80's and I was
amazed at the volume. I have a lot of shows ranging from the 50's
through the 90's on DVD mostly from retail and I basically have the
same series you do only more but unfortunately since they are retail
they can't either be copied or traded (the latter according to the rules
of the forum). I do have some collectors sets of shows but they are
from older TV series that not many here have expressed interest in
or apparently are familiar with. Then again 80's shows are now
considered "old" too and I was surprised you listed so many of them,
some of which I know about but not all.

One show on your 80's want list you did not list and I didn't see is
The Rousters 1983) starring Chad Everett and Jim Varney. I have
the complete series, all 13 episodes, recently remastered. I was
missing episodes and finally found them. I also have all 13 episodes
of The Devlin Connection (1982, Rock Hudson) as well; previously
collectors have only had 9. Trauma Center I have 11 episodes of
plus the Fall Guy crossover episode Trauma; I'm missing 2 episodes of it
(# 11-12, Line Of Fire, Win Or Lose that were unaired). You also do not
have the 1983 sitcom Small And Frye (Darren McGavin) listed; I have 3
episodes from CBS-TV airings, the first 3 of that series and looking for
the last 3. But most of what I have being retail can't be copied for
legal reasons. Just wanted you to know. It's not that I'm not interested
in trading, current circumstances I have no control over prevent me from
doing it right now, mostly medical. Thanks for understanding.

Black Sheep One

[Black Sheep One]

Originally Posted by Black Sheep One

Hi, unfortunately Boston: False Illiusion is one of the 7 episodes of Lottery
that I'm currently missing and haven't been able to find. I just found 10
episodes from another source on this forum and he's looking for the same
7 too. We're missing episodes 5-9, 11, and 15.

Episode titles are as follows (do not have any of these):

5 Phoenix: Blood Brothers
6 Portland: Treasure Hunt
7 Kansas City: Protected Winner
8 Charleston: The Spenders
9 New York: Winning Can Be Murder
11 Boston: False Illusion
15 St. Louis: Win Or Lose

Presently member Merlin and I have 10 episodes:
1-4, 10, 12-14 and 16-17. That is all so far.

There are two other members who have 3 of the 7
missing episodes between them but I haven't heard
from either one of them as of yet.

According to online research, there were 8 episodes of Lottery released once upon a time on VHS home video
or so says Worldcat.org that might be in libraries in either film or VHS format. But I would be willing to bet that
if interested parties contacted any of them, they would not even know what the 1983 TV show Lottery was much
less be able to locate it even if they did have it there. Most people in the US have never even heard of or watched it
either originally on ABC-TV or in cable channel airings (late 80's). I do know for a fact that ABC-TV has disposed of
all their original source material for shows from the 80's (film prints/tapes) to make room in their storage vaults.
So from that network's point of view, the older shows are nothing more than trash to be disposed of. More of that
"out with the old, in with the new" junk that's being shoved down our throats today.

Wish I could be of more help. I think I'm doing well to have at least 10
of the total 17 episodes from Lottery at all. Thanks for writing.

Black Sheep One

[Black Sheep One]

Originally Posted by Black Sheep One

Hi, unfortunately Boston: False Illiusion is one of the 7 episodes of Lottery
that I'm currently missing and haven't been able to find. I just found 10
episodes from another source on this forum and he's looking for the same
7 too. We're missing episodes 5-9, 11, and 15.

Episode titles are as follows (do not have any of these):

5 Phoenix: Blood Brothers
6 Portland: Treasure Hunt
7 Kansas City: Protected Winner
8 Charleston: The Spenders
9 New York: Winning Can Be Murder
11 Boston: False Illusion
15 St. Louis: Win Or Lose

If anyone has the above 7 episodes of Lottery! from 1983, please let me know either in reply to the post or by PM. Willing to trade for DVD's only. I don't have the technological expertise to do any downloads of TV show episodes. I was just barely able to download the 10 I did find as it is. That is an experience that I would prefer not to repeat if I can help it. Downloads are beyond my knowledge. DVD's I know about. Thanks.

Siblis and ajm, I know you have between you 3 of the missing 7 episodes which include Blood Brothers and Winning Can Be Murder. If you have any of the 7 in English please let me know. Any help at this point is greatly appreciated. Black Sheep One

Presently member Merlin and I have 10 episodes:
1-4, 10, 12-14 and 16-17. That is all so far.

There are two other members who have 3 of the 7
missing episodes between them but I haven't heard
from either one of them as of yet.

According to online research, there were 8 episodes of Lottery released once upon a time on VHS home video
or so says Worldcat.org that might be in libraries in either film or VHS format. But I would be willing to bet that
if interested parties contacted any of them, they would not even know what the 1983 TV show Lottery was much
less be able to locate it even if they did have it there. Most people in the US have never even heard of or watched it
either originally on ABC-TV or in cable channel airings (late 80's). I do know for a fact that ABC-TV has disposed of
all their original source material for shows from the 80's (film prints/tapes) to make room in their storage vaults.
So from that network's point of view, the older shows are nothing more than trash to be disposed of. More of that
"out with the old, in with the new" junk that's being shoved down our throats today.

Wish I could be of more help. I think I'm doing well to have at least 10
of the total 17 episodes from Lottery at all. Thanks for writing.

Black Sheep One