Beer vs Soda Drinking

[Caroline13]

Pick your Poison, I'd pick Beer but I drink neither....A woman on my other group is majorally addicted to Pepsi, says she has cut back but continues to consume it and is talking about UTI's she gets and is blaming the pepsi...


Health-wise Beer wins this one. I don't drink either but I've read enough about the value
of Hops for one ingredient in beer....and my dad drank at least 1 beer every day all his 95 yrs....

[B]Finally, hops have another supremely useful function – stability. Beer’s shelf-life is rather long because they have an [B]antibacterial effect, defeating certain microorganisms that don’t do the brew any good.

Hops have been used in beer-making for centuries, and their first documented use is from way back in the 9th century. Previous to that, folks would have tried a bunch of different bitter herbs and flowers, like dandelion, burdock root and marigold. Once the joy of hops was discovered, though, brewers didn’t look back.


Hops can be bought in supplement places for their health benefits....I once considered this.

I tasted a few beers in my life and liked this one most and could have gotten hooked but DID NOT

https://www.ubereats.com/product/b/a...s&gad_source=1



Beer is an acquuired taste, no sugars in beer.


https://www.sevenbro7hers.com/blogs/...dients-in-beer

[Fleet]

I pick soda/soft drinks.

Especially vanilla Coke. Safer that way... can't get pulled over for drinking Coke.

Alcohol never appealed to me.

[biffbronson]

I don't like beer, so none for me. I got drunk just once on beer way back in 1990, and vowed never again.

I very rarely drink anything with alcohol, just a little wine on the major holidays. (I think through the year I get the benefits of red grapes from eating grape jam / preserves.)

Soft drinks: not often, mostly socially -- like after a meeting. Rarely bring them into my house. Not fussy, they all taste fine to me. As a child I liked red cream soda and the usual suspects like orange or grape Nehi, Mountain Dew, and 7-Up.

[Caroline13]

I guess I posted this as more of a "healthier drink" Lots of good stuff in beer and NOTHING good about soda pops.....As a young person I would sneak to the drug store and buy a nickel coke, mom NEVER brought soda in the house, ginger ale for upset stomach or whatever.....

If I liked beer and had a desire to drink it, I'd probably drink a small beer daily or every other day. I don't have an addiction issue.....

Give me good Clean Water....

[Caroline13]

Current Research on Hops -- And I'm NOT PUSHING HOPS, just point ing out their benefits..... My dad slept good and his heart was strong until 95...the HOPS?????


Sleep Disorders
Various components found in hops are thought to have mild sedative properties that may have applications in medicine.5


A few small studies have investigated the effects of hops on sleep-wake cycles using nonalcoholic beer.

One very small study included 17 nurses assigned female at birth. The nurses, who worked rotating or night shifts, were given hop-containing nonalcoholic beer at dinnertime for two weeks. Researchers monitored their sleep patterns with a wristband sleep tracker. The results suggested that the beer not only helped participants fall asleep slightly faster but also reduced anxiety levels.6

These results are similar to a 2014 study of 30 college students in which questionnaires were used to determine sleep habits. After one week of recording sleep habits, students were asked to drink nonalcoholic beer with their dinner for 14 days. Compared with the first week, the students reported significant improvements in sleep habits, including the time it took to fall asleep after drinking nonalcoholic beer.7

Hops are sometimes combined with other herbs, like valerian and passionflower, to treat insomnia.

A 2013 study compared the sleeping pill Ambien (zolpidem) to a combination pill that contained hops, valerian, and passionflower. In the study, both the sleeping pill and the herbal remedy were found to be equally effective.8 However, it's difficult to determine if the hops were more or less effective than the other herbs in the study.

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Hot Flashes
The flavonoid 8-prenylnaringenin found in hops is classified as a phytoestrogen—a plant-based compound that mimics the activity of the female hormone estrogen. Some believe that 8-prenylnaringenin can help increase estrogenic activity in the body, overcoming symptoms of estrogen deficiency, especially during menopause.9

Hot flashes are a common side effect of menopause. Hops may be able to help ease this effect.

In both animal and human trials, hops supplementation has correlated with improvements in hot flashes. Various studies have found that when compared to a placebo, hops were thought to alleviate hot flashes associated with menopause.9

However, the researchers noted the potential for adverse effects with long-term supplementation with hops. Additionally, further research is needed to determine an optimal dosing strategy.9

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Cardiovascular Disease
A flavonoid in hops called xanthohumol is believed to have properties that may help relax blood vessels and improve blood circulation.

One study performed on rats found that xanthohumol extracted from hops reduced calcification in arteries and veins. Researchers from the study believed these results to mean that xanthohumol may have a potential role in decreasing the risk of cardiovascular (heart) disease.10

Although these results seem promising, and other lab and animal studies have drawn similar conclusions, the role of hops and xanthohumol has yet to be studied in humans. More research is needed in this area.

Cancer
Although hops cannot directly prevent cancer, xanthohumol, and other compounds in hops, may display anticancer effects.

According to a 2018 review, xanthohumol was found to kill various types of cancer in test tube studies. Xanthohumol was found to be cytotoxic, meaning that it "poisoned" and killed cells, including cancer cells. It was also found to trigger apoptosis, also known as programmed cell death.11

More research, including human trials, must be conducted to draw conclusions.

Depression
Hops are being studied as a potential treatment for depression and other mood disorders.

A small human trial from 2017 looked at healthy college students with self-reported mood disorders. For the placebo-controlled clinical trial, 36 young adults with mild depression were given either 400 milligrams (mg) of Melcalin hops or a placebo (an ineffective substance) for four weeks. At the end of the study, those taking hops showed significant reductions in anxiety, stress, and depression levels compared to the placebo group.12
Once again, though, further research should be conducted regarding hops and their potential role in treating mood disorders. More large-scale human trials are needed.
What Are the Side Effects of Hops?
When taken as a supplement, hops are believed to be generally safe and have minimal side effects. However, side effects are possible when taking hops and may be mild or severe.

Common Side Effects

[Caroline13]

Hey Dude, a short daily beer could be a good friend for you....I know you are reading this post.

[Dude111]

Yes Carole I am

I dont like Beer...... I drink Soda alot..... Pepsi,Coke but beer tastes aweful........

[Caroline13]

Originally Posted by Dude111

Yes Carole I am

I dont like Beer...... I drink Soda alot..... Pepsi,Coke but beer tastes aweful........

You talk about all the "crap" in those sodas so I believed you didn't drink them, unless pepsi and coke make a production batch especially for you with no additives.....

Good chance you are wired on all the stuff in the sodas...

[Dude111]

Ya I dont drink much of it,mostly chocolate Milk

[KurtfromPitts]

I prefer soda pop, especially colas. No beer or any alcoholic beverage for me.

[Dead2009]

I don't drink beer so soda would probably be the way to go.

[biffbronson]

Originally Posted by Caroline13

Hey Dude, a short daily beer could be a good friend for you....I know you are reading this post.

And a daily half slice of whole-wheat bread for you. Confronting your enemy food.

[Caroline13]

Originally Posted by biffbronson

And a daily half slice of whole-wheat bread for you. Confronting your enemy food.

Hey, Biff, all you got to say? We're discussing beer and soda drinks....

[ThisLittlePiggy]

I don't drink beer or soda. I never liked beer. I did drink soda as a teenager but left it behind years ago. If I had to drink alcohol, it would be champagne or a bloody mary. But I rarely drink. I sometimes have a spiked egg nog at the holidays.

[biffbronson]

Originally Posted by Caroline13

Hey, Biff, all you got to say? We're discussing beer and soda drinks....

Please call me Jim. I didn't use my real name because there were already at least 3 people here named James or Jim.

I was confused by these facts: you called beer a "poison" in your first post, yet you advocate some use due to its benefits. I think you'll agree that bread, also a grain-based food item, has some potential real benefits as well -- yet by all accounts, you have sworn off bread 100%.

I drink mostly juice, milk, and water -- so aside from my earlier post, I have no other input. I was just asked "what's your secret?" as far as looking younger than 59, so I must be doing something right regarding food & drink (along with not smoking).