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Tankeryanker · 03-03-2024, 10:34 PM

in color?
I haven't made it past a few episodes in season 1, but curious if it is ever in color.
Thanks

Bonniegirl · 03-03-2024, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tankeryanker

in color?
I haven't made it past a few episodes in season 1, but curious if it is ever in color.
Thanks

No . I think this show was always in B & W . My older Sisters favorite show , so I watched The Patty Duke show first run. Than also watched in reruns . Never saw a color episode. So I'm 99.9 percent sure it was never in color .

i29u · 03-04-2024, 03:42 AM

Not only was the show never in color, but I think I heard or read somewhere that the only reason there was no 4th season is because the production company United Artists was unwilling to put up the extra money to have the show filmed in color (all shows had to be in color in the '66-'67 season).

gidgetgrape · 03-15-2024, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by i29u

Not only was the show never in color, but I think I heard or read somewhere that the only reason there was no 4th season is because the production company United Artists was unwilling to put up the extra money to have the show filmed in color (all shows had to be in color in the '66-'67 season).

They were some cheapskates! I read once that they could have had Bette Davis in an episode, but they didn't want to pay her enough money to do it. Bette played a twin in "Dead Ringer," the same year "The Patty Duke Show" premiered.

This show would have been amazing in color! The 1999 reunion TV movie is in color.

Bonniegirl · 03-15-2024, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gidgetgrape

They were some cheapskates! I read once that they could have had Bette Davis in an episode, but they didn't want to pay her enough money to do it. Bette played a twin in "Dead Ringer," the same year "The Patty Duke Show" premiered.

This show would have been amazing in color! The 1999 reunion TV movie is in color.

Whoa !! Better Davis guest starring would have been awesome ! Can't believe they wouldn't shell out the money. Having a major movie star guest starring really puts a great spotlight on the show!

stevea · 03-15-2024, 09:47 PM

All three seasons were in black and white. Disagreements over color factored into cancellation in 1966 -- ABC wanted color and United Artists said it would be too expensive.

By the 1966-1967 season all prime time series were in color, so United Artists was fighting a losing battle anyway.

Tankeryanker · 03-15-2024, 10:06 PM

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By the 1966-1967 season all prime time series were in color, so United Artists was fighting a losing battle anyway.

Why? Why then? I think we discussed Beaver in B&W v Gidget in full color but close in production times.

I asked my 89-year-old Auncle when he first watched TV. He said it was in 55 when they took my Amom to college. He watched it in the motel they rented for that weekend. He was 19.

It took 10 years from his first viewing to full color.

biffbronson · 03-16-2024, 04:48 AM

Color TVs were not common at all for many years; RCA introduced a color model in the mid-1950s but it was very expensive at $1000. That was a LOT back then, and overwhelmingly programming was being produced in b & w.

Some early TV series that were filmed in full-color (in their later seasons) were The Lone Ranger and Adventures of Superman in the late 1950s; I believe in one or more of those cases they wanted to be able to air compilations in movie theaters, so color made sense. All of Sgt. Preston of the Yukon was also filmed in color.

The best example of an early color major-network TV series was NBC's Bonanza, color from its start in 1959. But as I indicated, a color TV set remained out-of-reach for the overwhelming majority of U.S. viewers for some years yet.

Frank Gannucci · 03-17-2024, 10:05 PM

Someone on Youtube colorized several episodes using Deoldify. They look like they have been removed.

biffbronson · 03-19-2024, 08:23 AM

I forgot to mention also that since RCA owned NBC, their competitors ABC and CBS were not thrilled with the idea that if they shifted to color in earlier years, they would've been helping NBC -- as people would be more willing/inclined to buy one of the color RCA TVs, with more color programming thus available to view.

stevea · 03-19-2024, 10:16 AM

I'm not sure what triggered the mass conversion to color over the 1965-66 and 1966-67 seasons. It took a few years after that to complete the process, since some daytime shows were slow to convert.

Even NBC was slightly off pace, since the 1965-66 season of I Dream of Jeannie was in black and white.

Cathy_Lane · 08-14-2024, 12:10 AM

From what I've read, the 1966-67 season was when all prime-time shows switched to being broadcast in color. The Patty Duke Show didn't switch over and was cancelled, but honestly, there was so much going on in Patty Duke's life at the time that the show probably wouldn't have gone on for too much longer anyways.

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03-04-2024, 03:42 AM	#3
i29u Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 05, 2004 Posts: 237	Not only was the show never in color, but I think I heard or read somewhere that the only reason there was no 4th season is because the production company United Artists was unwilling to put up the extra money to have the show filmed in color (all shows had to be in color in the '66-'67 season).

03-15-2024, 09:47 PM	#6
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,228	All three seasons were in black and white. Disagreements over color factored into cancellation in 1966 -- ABC wanted color and United Artists said it would be too expensive. By the 1966-1967 season all prime time series were in color, so United Artists was fighting a losing battle anyway.

03-16-2024, 04:48 AM	#8
biffbronson Sentimental Fool Forum Star Join Date: Aug 22, 2009 Location: Near Notre Dame Posts: 10,283	Color TVs were not common at all for many years; RCA introduced a color model in the mid-1950s but it was very expensive at $1000. That was a LOT back then, and overwhelmingly programming was being produced in b & w. Some early TV series that were filmed in full-color (in their later seasons) were The Lone Ranger and Adventures of Superman in the late 1950s; I believe in one or more of those cases they wanted to be able to air compilations in movie theaters, so color made sense. All of Sgt. Preston of the Yukon was also filmed in color. The best example of an early color major-network TV series was NBC's Bonanza, color from its start in 1959. But as I indicated, a color TV set remained out-of-reach for the overwhelming majority of U.S. viewers for some years yet.

03-17-2024, 10:05 PM	#9
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 15,922	Someone on Youtube colorized several episodes using Deoldify. They look like they have been removed.

03-19-2024, 08:23 AM	#10
biffbronson Sentimental Fool Forum Star Join Date: Aug 22, 2009 Location: Near Notre Dame Posts: 10,283	I forgot to mention also that since RCA owned NBC, their competitors ABC and CBS were not thrilled with the idea that if they shifted to color in earlier years, they would've been helping NBC -- as people would be more willing/inclined to buy one of the color RCA TVs, with more color programming thus available to view.

03-19-2024, 10:16 AM	#11
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,228	I'm not sure what triggered the mass conversion to color over the 1965-66 and 1966-67 seasons. It took a few years after that to complete the process, since some daytime shows were slow to convert. Even NBC was slightly off pace, since the 1965-66 season of I Dream of Jeannie was in black and white.