Call me crazy, but I think Danny Casolaro...

[Hambone2421]

I completely agree with the original poster in that Danny Casolaro committed suicide.

[Xytras]

Originally Posted by Hambone2421

I completely agree with the original poster in that Danny Casolaro committed suicide.

Glad to have some support here! It just strikes me impossible that the supposed killers would have forced Danny to write/orchestrate a suicide note, caused absolutely no noise, used a cumbersome, nonconventional weapon (blades from which were neatly taken from its original package), and left no sign of a struggle or defensive wounds whatsoever if he was to have been murdered in such a way.

That and the fact that Danny was clearly chasing a dead story that he proved to have lied about makes me believe that his story was much less compelling than was alleged in the show.

[cordwainer1453]

Didn't Casolaro actually buy the razor blades?? How convenient for this killer.

[wiseguy182]

Originally Posted by Xytras

Glad to have some support here! It just strikes me impossible that the supposed killers would have forced Danny to write/orchestrate a suicide note, caused absolutely no noise, used a cumbersome, nonconventional weapon (blades from which were neatly taken from its original package), and left no sign of a struggle or defensive wounds whatsoever if he was to have been murdered in such a way.

That and the fact that Danny was clearly chasing a dead story that he proved to have lied about makes me believe that his story was much less compelling than was alleged in the show.

You bet! The segment doesn't even address the issue, but it's not like a killer could have just barged into his room. There's no way to get into those things unless you have a key or somebody lets you in.

[XTremeInvestigator]

You did an awesome job! Yes, there are definitely questions that need answers. However, just my notes.

First off - don't trust Wikipedia for "facts". I would go to the source if possible. EX "No one reported noise" what they don't say is the rooms near Danny weren't occupied, so that may be why.



1) Not everyone who drinks is about to commit suicide. And yes, Danny was VERY stressed. He was getting death threats, so he may not be very chipper. I would probably look the same way


2) Suicide note is indeed questionable. I haven't seen any evidence where folks said indeed it was his, tho it was similar. Like I said, there wouldn't be much of a scuffle, and no one would hear a commotion as the hotel was sparsely occupied during Danny's stay. Do we know for a fact there were neighbors? If so, then you definitely have a point here. If Wikipedia facts, then no.

3)Makes sense, actually. If you want it to look like suicide, you gonna leave the room a mess? You are going to do it as quietly as possible. You don't want staged suicides to look messy, otherwise it would be questioned.

4) Again, makes sense - if you just found the razor blades, wouldn't you say "Where the heck did he get the razor blades?" If you see a package of them laying around it looks like suicide - like he planned it and bought. so did he, or did someone else?

5) Again, there was no evidence of struggle, so even if he had neighbors, they wouldn't hear anything anyway.

6) Danny would enjoy wine and beer on occasion. Now, if he was drinking to be intoxicated, then yeah I would agree with you here. But simply seeing someone drinking alone, is nothing. No one stated he looked sad, was crying, worried. Just the bartender "he looked depressed" which is what every bartender would describe someone. If the tox came back with large amounts, then yeah I would agree. But not ready to jump on board quite yet.

Don't forget, there was another episode on UM where a reporter was warned he would be killed like Danny. Again, not saying Danny was killed, its just Danny was getting death threats as well (and perhaps the caller said that just to scare him - kinda like when terrorists take credit for attacks they don't do to instill fear - maybe the caller was saying Danny's death was a murder for the same reason.)

I also have a problem with the attempted cleanup. There was no evidence that Danny tried to clean up after himself, so either it was staged or some yo-yo contaminated the crime scene.

If he's squeeminsh with blood, then kind of a poor choice. Most folks like that get a gun or jump off a bldg., or hang themselves. But hey, who knows.


Im not saying you are wrong, just saying there are a lot of questions. Unfortunately the investigation was too poorly done for anyone to say one way or the other, so that's why Im undecided. Your case is very strong, however.

[Xytras]

Originally Posted by cordwainer1453

Didn't Casolaro actually buy the razor blades?? How convenient for this killer.

Exactly, that is one of the most important aspects. Why in the world would these supposed killers not come prepared with an easier, quicker, less noise-producing method to kill someone? Since there is no reason to believe the killers even had knowledge that Danny possessed the blades, it seems even more unlikely that this would have been the weapon used in a murder.

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by Xytras

Exactly, that is one of the most important aspects. Why in the world would these supposed killers not come prepared with an easier, quicker, less noise-producing method to kill someone? Since there is no reason to believe the killers even had knowledge that Danny possessed the blades, it seems even more unlikely that this would have been the weapon used in a murder.

Thank you for that little tidbit. Had no idea. Definitely suicide, IMO.

[Xytras]

Originally Posted by XTremeInvestigator

You did an awesome job! Yes, there are definitely questions that need answers. However, just my notes.

First off - don't trust Wikipedia for "facts". I would go to the source if possible. EX "No one reported noise" what they don't say is the rooms near Danny weren't occupied, so that may be why.

First of all, thank you for your compliment and your response.

As far as the rooms near Danny not being occupied, this is not true. Both rooms adjacent to Danny's room were occupied that night, and when questioned neither occupant reported that any noise, struggle, or resistance was heard.

3)Makes sense, actually. If you want it to look like suicide, you gonna leave the room a mess? You are going to do it as quietly as possible. You don't want staged suicides to look messy, otherwise it would be questioned.

Accomplishing a murder like this would be next to impossible with full compliance of the victim and absolutely no scuffle, resistance, or struggle.

I also have a problem with the attempted cleanup. There was no evidence that Danny tried to clean up after himself, so either it was staged or some yo-yo contaminated the crime scene.

No one from the actual investigation claimed that there was a cleanup. This account comes from a housekeeper, who said the towels "looked like they wiped blood." There is no pictorial evidence to support this, nor evidence to support the conclusion that the towels even existed, and the police do not corroborate this account. Towels laying on the floor soak up blood, and if Danny got out of the tub there is a good chance that any towels he brushed upon would be bloody.

If he's squeeminsh with blood, then kind of a poor choice. Most folks like that get a gun or jump off a bldg., or hang themselves. But hey, who knows.

Absolutely, but poor choices are decidedly less poor to an individual who is inebriated, which was the condition Danny was in according to all parties. It shouldn't be necessary to say this, but many indiscretions are embraced while drinking. Homicides that lack any form of struggle or resistance are just not possible with razorblades, especially if Danny was particularly fearful of them.

[Awsi Dooger]

Originally Posted by Xytras

Glad to have some support here! It just strikes me impossible that the supposed killers would have forced Danny to write/orchestrate a suicide note, caused absolutely no noise, used a cumbersome, nonconventional weapon (blades from which were neatly taken from its original package), and left no sign of a struggle or defensive wounds whatsoever if he was to have been murdered in such a way.

That and the fact that Danny was clearly chasing a dead story that he proved to have lied about makes me believe that his story was much less compelling than was alleged in the show.

I agree with the suicide angle. I posted a couple of months ago in an unrelated thread that it seemed like a suicide combined with overhyped peripheral variables. Once that was my first impression I basically ignored it.

[edb]

Has anyone else reviewed the information posted on the internet archive in 2015 and 2016 ?

https://archive.org/details/casolaro-notebooks

https://archive.org/details/DannyCasolaroFBI

Do the photos change your mind on whether it was suicide or not ?

These were posted on 5/6/2017:

** warning graphic photos **
https://archive.org/details/Casolaro...ndCorpsePhotos

https://archive.org/details/CasolaroSuicideNote
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[Todd Mueller]

Originally Posted by edb

Do the photos change your mind on whether it was suicide or not ?

These were posted on 5/6/2017:

** warning graphic photos **
https://archive.org/details/Casolaro...ndCorpsePhotos

https://archive.org/details/CasolaroSuicideNote
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Holy hell... Those cuts are DEEP. I don't see how anyone could make even one of those cuts on themself and not pass out. That is very crazy.

[DazzlerSparkler]

I found this. Now whete is my Sharon Kinne play?

http://www.stageandcinema.com/2014/1...-died-for-you/

Holy Hell its.....photocopies? But yes those are very deep grooves. Disturbing, would someone be able to slice that deep themselves? Unless he's superman or used some type of numming agent
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[thinwhiteduke74]

I was prepared to give the case the benefit of the doubt because Iran-Contra, BCCI, and the October Surprise are connected, and because Elliot Richardson, whom Nixon fired for failing to fire special prosecutor Archibald Cox, lent his unimpeachable cred. The circumstances of Casalaro's death remain suspicious.

But he doesn't strike me as a journalist so much as an average citizen with an amateur's reporting skills. No reporter believes there's ONE treasure trove of documents connecting everybody. You can believe, as I do, based on evidence, that an easily identifiable cabal of national security types did nefarious things in the Reagan-Bush administration yet dismiss the idea of THE OCTOPUS (a term from Frank Norris' novel about business combinations in the West).

[James T]

Originally Posted by thinwhiteduke74

I was prepared to give the case the benefit of the doubt because Iran-Contra, BCCI, and the October Surprise are connected, and because Elliot Richardson, whom Nixon fired for failing to fire special prosecutor Archibald Cox, lent his unimpeachable cred. The circumstances of Casalaro's death remain suspicious.

But he doesn't strike me as a journalist so much as an average citizen with an amateur's reporting skills. No reporter believes there's ONE treasure trove of documents connecting everybody. You can believe, as I do, based on evidence, that an easily identifiable cabal of national security types did nefarious things in the Reagan-Bush administration yet dismiss the idea of THE OCTOPUS (a term from Frank Norris' novel about business combinations in the West).

It is on a par with the Bilderberger conspiracy-these people cannot agree on the time of day as we have seen how ineffective they have been on things like climate change, cyber security, migration etc, let alone control every facet of the universe if the conspiracy claims are to be believed.

It could be a grand conspiracy that saw Danny C murdered, but really he was a broke journalist who despite having the secrets to probably the biggest scandal in history was out there getting drunk & shouting his mouth off about it in bars-hardly the actions of somebody fearful of these world dominators. What is more likely is that he killed himself on the weekend in a small place, the cops couldn't really be bothered with the crime scene as it looked like a suicide & neither could the pathologist, as this out of town guy had heaped more work on them when they would rather be out drinking etc.

[TheCars1986]

Michael Riconosciuto was serving a 30 year sentence for manufacturing and distributing methamphetamine during the filming of this segment. UM simply says it was a "drug charge". Why they bothered to give this crack pot airtime is beyond me.