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TMC · 04-01-2022, 05:56 AM

of other shows from its era? Shows such as Barney Miller (for which Linda Lavin acted on for about a season or so), or Norman Lear's shows that were also on CBS at the time like All In The Family aka Archie Bunker's Place, The Jeffersons, and One Day At A Time.

JR1 · 04-01-2022, 11:24 AM

Alice was never as strong as a juggernaut like All in the Family. I would also say that The Jeffersons and One Day at a Time were also not highly regarded like AITF. of all, The Jeffersons probably has had more of a cultural presence than Alice or One Day at a Time (sans the recent reboot). Note that none of them were nominated for Comedy Series at the Emmys (Barney Miller was, even winning once).

Alice does deserve recognition for showcasing a single/widowed mother trying to make ends meet to support herself and her son, women's issues, etc.

Yong Fang · 09-07-2022, 12:34 PM

Since I am older than Linda Lavin then, she was a good looking woman, especially on Barney Miller. I like dark haired women. When I was a child and young teen she seemed liked an older woman, now that I am older, my opinion of her has changed. Now when she was on B Positive, she is still a very attractive senior citizen.

BestTVever · 09-13-2022, 02:56 PM

IMHO it was all because of the drama and how difficult working with Linda was. The show lost 2 actresses over her jealousy.

Chocolate Moose · 09-13-2022, 03:08 PM

i think she got plenty of kudos. she's still working!

JR1 · 09-15-2022, 03:10 PM

BestTV- Diane Ladd supposedly spoke publicly about difficulties with Linda, though there's nothing about the alleged Linda-Pollly feud, from either of them, or anyone who's worked on the show. All speculation for that one. Polly only acknowledged, right when Flo premiered, that there were tensions on the set, though she spoke positively about Linda.

I quite enjoy Alice, but, compared to some of the other shows regarded as the greatest of all time, it doesn't quite stack up. particularly in the post-Flo years.

BestTVever · 09-15-2022, 05:44 PM

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BestTV- Diane Ladd supposedly spoke publicly about difficulties with Linda, though there's nothing about the alleged Linda-Pollly feud, from either of them, or anyone who's worked on the show. All speculation for that one. Polly only acknowledged, right when Flo premiered, that there were tensions on the set, though she spoke positively about Linda.

I quite enjoy Alice, but, compared to some of the other shows regarded as the greatest of all time, it doesn't quite stack up. particularly in the post-Flo years.

I am old enough to remember the actual spin off Flo and why it happened. It was reported then how jealous Linda got that Polly was stealing her thunder with her catch phrase. Polly was just so professional about it that she did not talk to the press but it was a known fact at the time.
NO ONE from the show ever shot down all of the writing in the press of the jealousy on the set and Polly leaving.

Screwy Wabbit · 08-13-2023, 07:48 PM

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I quite enjoy Alice, but, compared to some of the other shows regarded as the greatest of all time, it doesn't quite stack up. particularly in the post-Flo years.

I'm inclined to agree. It's a fun show, but hardly what I would call a great show.

CJMD03 · 08-21-2023, 01:11 AM

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IMHO it was all because of the drama and how difficult working with Linda was. The show lost 2 actresses over her jealousy.

LL killed “Alice” with the jealousy. Granted, it did run quite awhile without PH, but the show was never the same.

According to Diane Ladd, PL looked over at her as she was leaving the set and said “Good luck.” Yikes. Didn’t DL’s character have a final scene that wasn’t even with the cast? Wasn’t Belle in a phone booth and told Mel that she quit?

04-01-2022, 05:56 AM	#1
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 124,985	Why hasn't "Alice" with Linda Lavin been given the kudos and recognition... of other shows from its era? Shows such as Barney Miller (for which Linda Lavin acted on for about a season or so), or Norman Lear's shows that were also on CBS at the time like All In The Family aka Archie Bunker's Place, The Jeffersons, and One Day At A Time.

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04-01-2022, 11:24 AM	#2
JR1 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 07, 2009 Location: USA Posts: 742	Alice was never as strong as a juggernaut like All in the Family. I would also say that The Jeffersons and One Day at a Time were also not highly regarded like AITF. of all, The Jeffersons probably has had more of a cultural presence than Alice or One Day at a Time (sans the recent reboot). Note that none of them were nominated for Comedy Series at the Emmys (Barney Miller was, even winning once). Alice does deserve recognition for showcasing a single/widowed mother trying to make ends meet to support herself and her son, women's issues, etc.

09-07-2022, 12:34 PM	#3
Yong Fang Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 04, 2009 Location: Memphis Tennessee Posts: 3,072	Since I am older than Linda Lavin then, she was a good looking woman, especially on Barney Miller. I like dark haired women. When I was a child and young teen she seemed liked an older woman, now that I am older, my opinion of her has changed. Now when she was on B Positive, she is still a very attractive senior citizen.

09-13-2022, 02:56 PM	#4
BestTVever Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 29, 2021 Location: Miami Posts: 1,883	IMHO it was all because of the drama and how difficult working with Linda was. The show lost 2 actresses over her jealousy.

09-15-2022, 03:10 PM	#6
JR1 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 07, 2009 Location: USA Posts: 742	BestTV- Diane Ladd supposedly spoke publicly about difficulties with Linda, though there's nothing about the alleged Linda-Pollly feud, from either of them, or anyone who's worked on the show. All speculation for that one. Polly only acknowledged, right when Flo premiered, that there were tensions on the set, though she spoke positively about Linda. I quite enjoy Alice, but, compared to some of the other shows regarded as the greatest of all time, it doesn't quite stack up. particularly in the post-Flo years.