Gary Grant Jr. Murder

[JenniferS.]

The lot were Gary was found is right next to the Texas park. If you read the artic les from that area the kids departed the park to go home around 4:30. So Gary would have had to walk passed the lot on his way home. I assume there was not gate on the lot at that time. To get were Gary was found a dirt part were cars drive to and turn to the right and there is wear house. Looking at google there seems to nothing but were houses and backs of building on the street . From these facts I can see why it would hard for any one too see or hear anything. More then likely he was lured back there for some reason. I am curious what was kept in that were house and if it is something some one would want too steel? Do they still have the pipe, the clothes Gary was wearing and the carpet he was covered in? They could try to find DNA on them these days?

[XCalibur]

I'm still very much on the fence about this one. Not sure what to believe. Boo was not only handicapped mentally but he was supposedly smaller than Gary. Hard to believe he could have done it.

Then again, the pipe used to kill him is an ideal weapon for someone not that strong. Pipes like that are thick and hard and can pack a nasty blow, yet they aren't that heavy, so its possible Boo might have done it. But it still requires a certain amount of strength, even with something hard as a pipe you still have to hit somebody pretty hard to kill them and it usually takes more than one hit, though not always.

Then again, it seems that Boo lied when he said he was not with Gary that day, that doesn't bode well for him. Even though others saw him. And I can't really buy that he witnessed the murder and was warned by someone to keep quiet. Anyone scumbag enough to beat a kid to death isn't going to stop at killing a second one. Killers don't typically leave witnesses. Unless the killer had some kind of connection to Boo of course and didn't want to kill him and Boo is covering for someone close to him. i heard his older brother may have been a suspect. Otherwise that doesn't make sense.

Perhaps there was a fight between the two. Gary may have initially got the best of Boo without hurting him, maybe pushed him to the ground or something, that is often what happens in fights between kids that young. And then when he turned away Boo out of anger grabbed the pipe and hit him in the back of the head with it. Maybe underestimating his own strength just a tad and killed him.

Just a guess though, I can't convince myself 100% Boo did it.

I also wonder where the pipe came from? And were there fingerprints on it?

[JenniferS.]

Originally Posted by XCalibur

I'm still very much on the fence about this one. Not sure what to believe. Boo was not only handicapped mentally but he was supposedly smaller than Gary. Hard to believe he could have done it.

Then again, the pipe used to kill him is an ideal weapon for someone not that strong. Pipes like that are thick and hard and can pack a nasty blow, yet they aren't that heavy, so its possible Boo might have done it. But it still requires a certain amount of strength, even with something hard as a pipe you still have to hit somebody pretty hard to kill them and it usually takes more than one hit, though not always.

Then again, it seems that Boo lied when he said he was not with Gary that day, that doesn't bode well for him. Even though others saw him. And I can't really buy that he witnessed the murder and was warned by someone to keep quiet. Anyone scumbag enough to beat a kid to death isn't going to stop at killing a second one. Killers don't typically leave witnesses. Unless the killer had some kind of connection to Boo of course and didn't want to kill him and Boo is covering for someone close to him. i heard his older brother may have been a suspect. Otherwise that doesn't make sense.

Perhaps there was a fight between the two. Gary may have initially got the best of Boo without hurting him, maybe pushed him to the ground or something, that is often what happens in fights between kids that young. And then when he turned away Boo out of anger grabbed the pipe and hit him in the back of the head with it. Maybe underestimating his own strength just a tad and killed him.

Just a guess though, I can't convince myself 100% Boo did it.

I also wonder where the pipe came from? And were there fingerprints on it?

i agree and the pipe. garys clothes and rug he was covered should all be checked dna or any evidence to find out who did it. you would also think the pipe would have finger prints.

[baloony]

Originally Posted by mozartpc27

Idk, feels like one of those deals where if they could get the case to a jury, they'd have a reasonable shot of a conviction. Juries don't like murdered children with no explanation.

I don't think competent defense attorneys would ever allow the case to get to a jury if they only evidence were Boo's confession, however.

Could a defense attorney argue double jeopardy in such a scenario?

[mwcarolina]

What always bothers me about Boo as the guy who killed Gary is the “reported” IQ and mentally handicaps of his. If he did it, I feel he’d be in prison right now for making a mistake and getting caught. I think it’s possible Boo witnessed (without being seen) who did this and didn’t want to tell because of he feared them

[JenniferS.]

I was reading Gary was also strangled . This is one things Boo said that the cops thought the killer would only know. The pipe came from near by construction sight. There is so many question about this case I would have asked if I was investigating.

[mozartpc27]

Originally Posted by mwcarolina

What always bothers me about Boo as the guy who killed Gary is the “reported” IQ and mentally handicaps of his. If he did it, I feel he’d be in prison right now for making a mistake and getting caught. I think it’s possible Boo witnessed (without being seen) who did this and didn’t want to tell because of he feared them

If Boo DID do it, he would not only have been charged as a child, since he was one at the time, he'd also have a reduced capacity defense, because of his mental disability.

If he was the culprit, it's likely he had a limited understanding of the possible ramifications of what he was doing when he hit Gary with the pipe.

[MediaHoarder]

Just watched this one, not surprised it is still unsolved.

I don't think this was roughhouse turned to tears among the kids, the graffiti and other rumors make it sound much more like a revenge killing by someone Gary's dad crossed.

The confession from Boo was an absolute disgrace, a handicapped 12 year old detained without his guardian or counsel until he confessed to murder. One has to wonder if that was done intentionally in an attempt to sabotage the investigation or if it was just exceptionally poor police work. Some of the articles indicate that the police department went to lengths to keep his dad in the dark about the case, even removing investigators that talked to him, which seems odd.

The mother letting the seven year old wander town unsupervised all day aspect was...interesting. Even for the 80's that seems a bit young not to expect any kind of check in or whereabouts, especially for someone married to a homicide detective.

[XCalibur]

Just thought of something. Apparently Boo's older brother was a suspect at one point. What if he came upon Gary and Boo having a fight, Gary was getting the better of the smaller Boo. Being protective of his younger brother maybe Boo's brother overreacted to a kid fight and jumped in to help him and it just got out of hand and he unfortunately killed him?

It would explain why Boo may have lied about being at the crime scene and being with Gary that day. And he did kind of hint that there was a fight between them. It would make perfect sense for him to lie for his brother, especially if he was helping him and things just got out of hand?

Maybe a little far fetched of a theory, but it would make sense given a lot of things. Boo was small and handicapped and probably got bullied a lot, so if he had an older brother its entirely possible he was very protective of him and had experiences with him getting bullied before and maybe this was the last straw causing him to overreact to a kid's fight that was basically harmless.

I would like to know more about the brother and if he was known to be protective of Boo and if he had a temper. If so, I think this was a possibility.

[xTattooedDollx]

Originally Posted by Lu/RosaFan429

Hi everyone,
I'm a longtime fan of "Unsolved Mysteries." I was wondering if anyone knows any information/details on when(the date) Gary Grant Jr. was murdered. I know it was in New Jersey somewhere. Does someone have any information? thanks Erin.. ps this story was aired on "Unsolved Mysteries" sometime in the late 80's or early 90's, but the date of the airing I'm not sure of. If anyone knows the date of when the case aired, please tell me in this reply and please respond back.

It was January 12, 1984

[JenniferS.]

Garys dad died with out fuind out who killesd his son.

https://breakingac.com/news/2026/jan...-1984-killing/


you think they find this crime out. sad.

[tvscript124]

Originally Posted by XCalibur

I'm still very much on the fence about this one. Not sure what to believe. Boo was not only handicapped mentally but he was supposedly smaller than Gary. Hard to believe he could have done it.

Then again, the pipe used to kill him is an ideal weapon for someone not that strong. Pipes like that are thick and hard and can pack a nasty blow, yet they aren't that heavy, so its possible Boo might have done it. But it still requires a certain amount of strength, even with something hard as a pipe you still have to hit somebody pretty hard to kill them and it usually takes more than one hit, though not always.

Then again, it seems that Boo lied when he said he was not with Gary that day, that doesn't bode well for him. Even though others saw him. And I can't really buy that he witnessed the murder and was warned by someone to keep quiet. Anyone scumbag enough to beat a kid to death isn't going to stop at killing a second one. Killers don't typically leave witnesses. Unless the killer had some kind of connection to Boo of course and didn't want to kill him and Boo is covering for someone close to him. i heard his older brother may have been a suspect. Otherwise that doesn't make sense.

Perhaps there was a fight between the two. Gary may have initially got the best of Boo without hurting him, maybe pushed him to the ground or something, that is often what happens in fights between kids that young. And then when he turned away Boo out of anger grabbed the pipe and hit him in the back of the head with it. Maybe underestimating his own strength just a tad and killed him.

Just a guess though, I can't convince myself 100% Boo did it.

I also wonder where the pipe came from? And were there fingerprints on it?

Did Boo lie or was he confused?

[XCalibur]

Originally Posted by tvscript124

Did Boo lie or was he confused?

Hard to say. Its not out of the realm of possibility, as we saw in the Michael Self case cops doing interrogations can turn out to be scumbags, especially with slower people like Self and Boo Mason. And try to trick or coerce them into a confession. It doesn't seem that anything that extreme happened in Boo's case obviously as Don Morris was a special kind of lowlife. But you can't always put things like that past cops who want to get some kind of resolution on the books rather than getting to the actual truth.

Case is still a tough call though.

[mwcarolina]

Originally Posted by XCalibur

Just thought of something. Apparently Boo's older brother was a suspect at one point. What if he came upon Gary and Boo having a fight, Gary was getting the better of the smaller Boo. Being protective of his younger brother maybe Boo's brother overreacted to a kid fight and jumped in to help him and it just got out of hand and he unfortunately killed him?

It would explain why Boo may have lied about being at the crime scene and being with Gary that day. And he did kind of hint that there was a fight between them. It would make perfect sense for him to lie for his brother, especially if he was helping him and things just got out of hand?

Maybe a little far fetched of a theory, but it would make sense given a lot of things. Boo was small and handicapped and probably got bullied a lot, so if he had an older brother its entirely possible he was very protective of him and had experiences with him getting bullied before and maybe this was the last straw causing him to overreact to a kid's fight that was basically harmless.

I would like to know more about the brother and if he was known to be protective of Boo and if he had a temper. If so, I think this was a possibility.

Ok now this makes a TON of sense!!! I always thought Boo may know more about the killing and if his brother did it, it explains EVERY thing including why he lied

[TheCars1986]

If Boo was present when Gary was killed...why has he remained silent all of these years if he in fact was just a witness to the murder? I've read where his older brother is dead. So why keep quiet if he was in fact the one who killed Gary while Boo witnessed it?