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Old 01-01-2021, 12:15 PM   #1
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Default Did Tina Louise have a point?

She complained for years that starring in GI hurt her career. Some people claim otherwise. But none of the rest landed a regular role in another hit series. They only did reunion movies or had guest appearances in other shows. Were they victims of typecasting, limited talent, or both? Or something else? I know that Jim Backus had to wind down his career after developing Parkinson’s Disease in the 1970s.

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I think a regular role on a hit series is a pretty high bar. Bob Denver got a couple series, they just weren't popular. Russell Johnson worked pretty steadily.

TV changed a lot as Gilligan was ending. I'm not sure if any of the actors was right to fill a role on the hit shows that started up around 1970. You had a ton of shows in the 60s - Westerns, spy shows, Star Trek - that were focused around groups of men, and just about every week those shows had some pretty girl as a guest star. Those shows largely disappeared around 1970, and with them most of those sort of roles, so that would have limited roles for Dawn Wells and Tina Louise pretty severely.
I couldn’t see any of GI’s cast guest-starring on a “Star Trek” episode.
If you mean the early 1970s rural purge brought an end to westerns and sitcoms in the style of GI, then yes.
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I couldn’t see any of GI’s cast guest-starring on a “Star Trek” episode.
I could certainly see Russell Johnson or Tina Louise guest starring on Star Trek. They were quality film actors with reasonably wide ranges. Maybe Dawn Wells if she was willing to shed her wholesome image.
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Before Gilligan, Dawn Wells played a Native American on various westerns. Alan Hale was on a lot of stuff and was in the running to play Archie Bunker on All in the Family. I think they all had talent, but once you get typecast, it's hard to see Bob Denver as anything but Gilligan, etc.
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Both Skipper and Ginger were on Jack Benny

In the episode Hale was just like the skipper but worked in a gym - very funny episode.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0613629/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZxWMvJrPbs

In the (Special) episode that Ginger was on was a 1 hour special and she played a beautiful girl right along side Jack - she was dazzling beautiful. No Credits Shown ...
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001481/

I would say had Ginger caught just 1 MAJOR break in the late 50's early 60's, like a costar to Elvis, she would have had many more stardom opportunities +-

So goes the Hollywood Starlet opportunities
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Before Gilligan, Dawn Wells played a Native American on various westerns. Alan Hale was on a lot of stuff and was in the running to play Archie Bunker on All in the Family. I think they all had talent, but once you get typecast, it's hard to see Bob Denver as anything but Gilligan, etc.
How close was Alan Hale to being Archie Bunker??

When you think about how he yelled at Gilligan he would've made a great Archie Bunker! Maybe even better than Carol O'Connor.
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I think actors trying to run away from their successes finally came to an end in the '90s. Maybe because of how much money there was to be earned from a hit show or movie at that point. There was no need to keep your career open enough to do another part because you could get rich off of just one part. In the '80s we still had actors like Mark Hamill, Christopher Reeve and Shelley Long who were worried about being stuck in their most famous role and always trying to distance themselves from it. But since the '90s and through today, actors are dying to become known for just one famous role in a smash hit.

Filmmakers themselves also don't tend to worry about typecasting as much. If an actor is popular in something, they will try to cast that actor in another part whether they fit it or not. The most typecast actor today is probably Chris Hemsworth as Thor. He fits that part so well that it's hard to see him in another part. But he still has had one opportunity after another to star in a different would-be blockbuster as studios try to cash in on his recognizability. But they're probably doing the wrong thing, as audiences haven't embraced him in any other role but Thor.
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Sitcoms started to change in the 70s due to all the "Learcoms" that were emerging. I'm not sure if any of the cast would have worked out on any of those.
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I saw her in an episode of Bonanza that she did right after GI concluded, and in a movie "the good guys and the bad guys". And imo she over acted in both...giving her characters a "labored" quality..

Perhaps it was her that allowed Ginger Grant to get into her own head?
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Did Tina Louise have a point?

Ginger had 2 very nice points !
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I could certainly see Russell Johnson or Tina Louise guest starring on Star Trek. They were quality film actors with reasonably wide ranges. Maybe Dawn Wells if she was willing to shed her wholesome image.
Dawn Wells would have made a great green alien dancing girl.
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I loved Russell Johnson's work on The Twilight Zone, especially the episode starring Albert Salmi. Really good casting.
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Did Tina Louise have a point?

Let's take a look, but as we do this let's take a look at the entire picture.

Bob Denver:

In fact, Bob starred in two series after Gilligan ended, those shows were not successful. Gilligan was his second successful series how many stars have more than two?

Alan Hale Jr.:

He played Casey Jones for a single season and a character named Biff Baker for 26 episodes over two seasons, both shows running in the 1950's. Besides the roles mentioned his career before and after Gilligan was a series of character roles. His career in the post-Gilligan world was the same as it was before Gilligan.

Jim Backus:

He played JC Dithers in Blondie (one of the main characters) during the 1968-69 season. This was his 4th series in addition to voicing Mr. Magoo in all the shows that character appeared in. Jim was also 57 years old in 1970, roles tend to wind down by this time in an actor's life.

Natelie Schafer:

She was 67 years of age when Gilligan ended, she has IMD credits after Gilligan, and those roles were consistent with the type of roles she was getting before Gilligan.

Russell Johnson:

He worked steadily before Gilligan and found roles after the series went off the air including a recurring part in Owen Marshall. He was a regular in a series titled Black Saddle in 59-60 (the series ran 41 episodes). I don't any evidence to suggest he was hurt by being in Gilligan's Island.

Dawn Wells:

Dawn's career got off to a good start, she was relatively new to the business when she landed the role that would define the rest of her career. She was only 29 when Gilligan ended and the roles based on IMD credits do seem to dry up. She had almost 30 credits between 1961 and the start of Gilligan and only 4 additional credits in the post-Gilligan world going into 1976.

It seems clear that with the possible exception of Dawn Wells the rest of cast was not adversely affected by their association with the series. I liked Dawn Wells but I think she was a younger version of Betty Lynn destined more for smaller parts rather than on her way to stardom.

I thought Tina Louise was a very self-conscious actress which might work on stage but on TV it comes across as role-playing by that I mean the audience is never becomes fully invested in the character she's playing.
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Bob Denver starred in 3 short-lived series after Gilligan's Island:

The Good Guys (1968)
Dusty's Trail (1973)
Far Out Space Nuts (1975)
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Alan Hale was on a lot of stuff and was in the running to play Archie Bunker on All in the Family.
And Carol O'Connor was in the running to play Skipper on Gilliigan's Island.

Mickey Rooney was also in the running to play Archie Bunker.
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