Cases you think that were not that much of a real mystery than UM hyped them up to be

[ctgrumpybear]

What cases that would show on Unsolved mysteries that would made to show up to be huge mystery but you think can be easily explained

My first one would be Tony Marabella

The seizures he had play no factor on when he started to put up some good numbers for baseball. I think he just had an little hot streak than dry out very fast

The case where an woman believes she was kidnapped as a kid because on how her family acted. I just keep on thinking she was just adopted and her family was a bit crazy side

[SageSlowdive]

Dakota's Double Death - very clear case of being s*** face drunk and tragically succumbing to the elements.

Ken Engie - Another case of being drunk off your rocker and not thinking clearly. No I do not think the friend set him up to be poisoned.

[TheCars1986]

John Cheek

Without the eyewitness, this was a clear cut suicide, IMO. Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. Granted, if there was more than one, it would lend more credence to the theory that he was still alive...but there was only the one trucker who claims to have seen and interacted with him.

[Labonte18]

Originally Posted by TheCars1986

John Cheek

Without the eyewitness, this was a clear cut suicide, IMO. Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. Granted, if there was more than one, it would lend more credence to the theory that he was still alive...but there was only the one trucker who claims to have seen and interacted with him.

We keep saying that around here, but if it fits someone's narrative.. An eyewitness is 1000% fact.

Even more than one, let's be honest, doesn't mean crap. I refer back again to "Lil Miss" Lisa Kimmell. She, and her car, were sighted all over the west. Both were buried on Dale Eaton's farm the whole time.

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by Labonte18

We keep saying that around here, but if it fits someone's narrative.. An eyewitness is 1000% fact.

Even more than one, let's be honest, doesn't mean crap. I refer back again to "Lil Miss" Lisa Kimmell. She, and her car, were sighted all over the west. Both were buried on Dale Eaton's farm the whole time.

And those witnesses probably did see her...just got their dates mixed up. Multiple people saw her in the direction in which she was headed, but they obviously got their dates mixed up.

[Labonte18]

Originally Posted by TheCars1986

And those witnesses probably did see her...just got their dates mixed up. Multiple people saw her in the direction in which she was headed, but they obviously got their dates mixed up.

Some MIGHT have.. But she was driving at night.. So.. Why would they have all seen her during the days, which they all claimed to?

Or the ones who saw her in Canada, which she never was in.

Most of them I don't think were nefarious. They were just mistaken. Either about who they saw or when it was, as you mention.

Some of them.. Probably were the goobers that you hear about from time to time that think it's funny to 'prank' people.

But, they were ALL mistaken. And, you wonder how many resources were wasted in tracking down those 'leads'.

You just always have to take eyewitnesses with a grain of salt. It's POSSIBLE they're right, but it's.. Just as possible they're not.

[FanfromES]

Arnold Archambeau and Ruby Ann Bruguier

They were ejected from the vehicle and fell into the ditch during the accident. When the water froze the bodies were trapped under ice. It wasn't until the ditch thawed that they were found.

The eyewitness...she was mistaken or maybe she just wanted her 15 minutes of fame...

[Corkys-Place]

How about that case from 1981 with the boy that died from "Everclear" alcohol poisoning? I've had a complete brain fog and forgotten his name.

Although there was that creepy scruffy looking dude roaming around the town saying he knew things.

[ghosthouse]

Originally Posted by Corkys-Place

How about that case from 1981 with the boy that died from "Everclear" alcohol poisoning? I've had a complete brain fog and forgotten his name.

Although there was that creepy scruffy looking dude roaming around the town saying he knew things.

Kurt Sova? Yeah...seemed pretty likely that he died from drinking at the party. But I guess they couldn't definitely prove it was alcohol and there is something left to be desired by the people that hid his body and then left it in the field?

That case always sticks with me because I can remember watching when it first aired in 1988 and it scared the hell out of me.

[Labonte18]

Originally Posted by ghosthouse

Kurt Sova? Yeah...seemed pretty likely that he died from drinking at the party. But I guess they couldn't definitely prove it was alcohol and there is something left to be desired by the people that hid his body and then left it in the field?

That case always sticks with me because I can remember watching when it first aired in 1988 and it scared the hell out of me.

I'd love to see the autopsy files on this one.. If he had only been dead 24-36 hours when he was found.. There's no way that alcohol from a party 5 days prior was still in his system.

The key here is his BAC at autopsy. How much alcohol was in his system? If there was a lot.. I think the coroner goofed the time of death.

And.. Then it becomes a question of how he got in the field. Did he drunkenly stumble out there or was he deposited there? Field was 500 yards away. That.. Seems very likely it was a drunken stumble.

It's fully possible the girl who had the party was just scared. I mean, she could have been brought up on charges for his death for providing the alcohol. She was.. Probably simply covering her butt from what would have been.. A fairly significant charge.

Article I just found says he still had alcohol in his system. I'd bet if another ME were to look at the autopsy files, they might also re-evaluate the time of death. Maybe the original ME was thrown off by the amount of alcohol.. Maybe it kinda.. "pickled" him?

But.. This case brings up another trope in many Unsolved cases.. "Found in an area that had already been searched".. And that field was searched by his family.. People not trained to search. How many times have you or I walked by our keys or cellphone and not seen them in the morning? You wind up calling your phone and tracking it down by it ringing and then feel like an idiot for missing it all that time.

While a body is a bit more obvious.. If you haven't walked a defined search pattern in a field, there's no guarantees you haven't missed something. Though.. As with Kurt's family.. There's little chance of convincing them of that fact.

[MegtheEgg86]

It's already been mentioned but I cannot think of a better example than the Engie segment. What happened was terrible, but no matter which presented scenario actually unfolded, in none of them did Curtis Heck actually kill Kenneth Engie.

[Jon]

Amy Bradley. All the horrible scenarios about sex slavery that have been theorized about over the years seem far-fetched

[Labonte18]

Originally Posted by Jon

Amy Bradley. All the horrible scenarios about sex slavery that have been theorized about over the years seem far-fetched

UM trope #3.. Anytime a pretty girl disappears, she's been sold into the sex trade.

I've always just thought Amy was drunk.. Leaned over the balcony rail to throw up and.. Over she went.

[Hot Jock]

Originally Posted by Jon

Amy Bradley. All the horrible scenarios about sex slavery that have been theorized about over the years seem far-fetched

That was the first case I thought of when I saw the title. These scenarios that were conjured up on there were beyond fairytale level inane.

Originally Posted by Labonte18

I’ve always just thought Amy was drunk.. Leaned over the balcony rail to throw up and.. Over she went.

That is 100% what happened there. It’s so blatantly obvious to anyone without a kindergarten level imagination or an extreme bias to the contrary.

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by Hot Jock

That is 100% what happened there. It’s so blatantly obvious to anyone without a kindergarten level imagination or an extreme bias to the contrary.

Bingo. It's always amazed me at the lengths people would go to believe the trafficking theory.