New Documentary on Keith Warren's Death

[hostedbyrobertstack]

I didn't see anything on this forum about this, so apologize if it has already been posted. I signed up for Discovery + to watch an episode of a show a week or so ago. Anyway, while browsing discovery + I noticed a new documentary on the death of Keith Warren. It is called "Uprooted" and is a 3 part documentary, each episode nearly an hour each. Very well made documentary and very thorough. It looks as though it's an "exclusive" for Discovery +

[infinityluxe]

Originally Posted by hostedbyrobertstack

I didn't see anything on this forum about this, so apologize if it has already been posted. I signed up for Discovery + to watch an episode of a show a week or so ago. Anyway, while browsing discovery + I noticed a new documentary on the death of Keith Warren. It is called "Uprooted" and is a 3 part documentary, each episode nearly an hour each. Very well made documentary and very thorough. It looks as though it's an "exclusive" for Discovery +

I have been following this case since I was a kid. What a great find thanks for sharing. I just signed up for a free trial just so I can watch this. About to watch now!

[freakbook]

Wow, gotta watch. Surprised his sister didn't mention it.

[infinityluxe]

Originally Posted by freakbook

Wow, gotta watch. Surprised his sister didn't mention it.

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Sherri Warren used to post on this board not long ago.

I watched the entire 3 hours documentary yesterday and it was so well done. I was extremely impressed. It took me aback to see what Sherri looks like today. She was drop dead gorgeous in the UM segment all those years ago and now she doesn't even look like it could be the same person. She has really taken on her mother's grief and burden. I pray for her that she is able to take care of herself and move on in some capacity. From the looks of her she never married or had children which is sad.

There were a lot of new information we were not privy to in the UM segment.

Keith's faither believed he committed suicide and alleged that Keith had been in a psychiatric hospital in New Jersey for an undisclosed amount of time.

Sherri was gone to live with the father for the summer as she had always done when Keith went missing and was found dead. Very telling that Keith was not visiting his father.

I found it extremely odd that Cleo Waddell Warren (Keith's dad) has never publicly appeared or assisted his ex wife in any way to find out what happened to Keith. Apparently he accepted the botched investigation the cops did and moved on with his life.

All of Keith's friends were white as mentioned in the UM segment. None of them would talk to the private investigator that Mary Couey had hired and two of them even went and got lawyers. One of the friends does appear in voice only and anonymous and he was very vague in answering questions.

Something Mr. Anonymous did reveal was that Keith's closest friends were all girls but he was not dating any of them. He said it in a way to insinuate that Keith was probably gay. Which I have never considered.

Sherri's entire family seems very supportive and close knit. Her uncle mentioned how Keith internalized everything and was very quiet and to himself. It seems to me the family did not want to publicly acknowledge that Keith was gay for whatever reason. Might explain why he and his father had such a volatile relationship. African American fathers have a hard time accepted their sons are gay and it is very possible Keith and his father fell into this demographic as well.

Mary Couey kept all of her research about Keith in a crate in her car's trunk and her car was vandalized and a lot of papers and her purse was stolen. She infamous pictures that appeared on her doorstep were in the purse and had been stolen. They were the only copies she had. Whoever stole the purse actually anonymously turned the pictures over to a civil rights advocate.

I found that to be very interesting. If the average person finds photos like that they would usually turn them in to the police not a civil rights advocate. The envelope had Mary's name on it and so maybe they did their research and knew better than to send them to the corrupt cops.

Apparently Mary Couey was very kind hearted and felt if she was nice and non threatening she could get help with Keith's death. Sherri said a lot of people took her mother's kindness for weakness. Sherri is very confrontational and direct and she has made it her passion to find out what happened to Keith. I feel sorry for her because she is filled with so much hurt and anger. She said she has nothing to lose because she lost her mom and her brother now.

It was said that the police had a party when they found out Mary Couey was dead. This is so sad and horrible. From everything that has been revealed we know Keith did not kill himself or put himself in that tree. He wasn't even hoisted up off the ground. He was hanging in almost a sitting position with his feet on the ground. No one can hang themselves that way. The leaves on his back were also very telling.

It still boggles my mind why someone felt the need to put Keith in an entirely different outfit but leave his original clothes near by. Had he got sick and regurgitated on his clothing? Did someone wash his clothes and decide to just leave him in the clothing they put on him? It just doesn't make sense. Could Keith had been sexually assaulted? Most people who are sexually assaulted are found naked. Something just isn't right about them changing his clothing.

I am starting to think Keith was either partying with friends doing drugs and overdosed or something more sinister was done with his body. If the friends panicked and put him in the tree they were likely young and naive to not realized that this was going to backfire. Hanging a black man in a tree would cause even more problems for them because now it looks like a lynching.

I don't believe Keith was lynched at all and I think whoever staged the hanging didn't even realize what their actions would be perceived as. The autopsy showed no signs of trauma to the body and there were no neck fractures or hemorraghing to the eyes or neck area; common in strangulation.

Perhaps Keith's friends lawyered up simply because of the optics of how he was found dead. Either way this was not a lynching. Keith either accidentally died and his friends tried to cover it up or he was the victim of foul play.

Now if this had been a hate crime to me there would have been trauma to the body. He would have been beaten and probably hung alive or atleast hung post-mortem with enough effort to cause trauma.

The fact his body was fully intact without any trauma leads me to believe Keith was either poisoned by someone who was jealous of him or he was using drugs and OD'd at someone's home who wanted no parts of that fall out.

Keith was 19, a month shy of going off to college, he owned a Corvette, he was nice looking, middle class, very popular within his school and neighborhood. Perhaps someone got jealous of him and needed/wanted him out of the way.

The fact the anonymous friend was insinuating Keith was gay and there was never any talk about Keith having a girlfriend leads me to believe Keith probably was gay and maybe he messed around with the wrong guy.

The group of black kids looking for Keith was also very interesting considering all of Keith's friends were black. Had they got their hands on Keith I feel like he would have been beat and or shot not poisoned. A group of guys looking to kill another young man are going to rough him up a bit there would have been trauma to his body.

Mark Findley was also another interesting lead. He was frantically looking for Keith before he died. Was he trying to warn Keith of the group of guys looking for him or warn him about another threat? Ot was he looking for Keith to harm him? The call about him wanting to unload was also interesting. Mary Couey naively turned the recording over to the police and they refused to acknowledge it and denied she ever gave it to them. Mark's death was very suspect. He was murdered and they disguised it as a freak bicycle accident?

Apparently the Coroner who was in charge during Keith's death is now on trial due to botching a lot of deaths of black men in Maryland and not investigating them properly.

The motivations for that police cover up is also very telling. The optics of Keith's death make it look like a lynching. I think the police went above and beyond not to investigate and to classify it as a suicide simply based on the optics alone. They didn't want to draw attention to a possible lynching. There were friends who were never questioned. There were lies in all of the police files. They said they spoke with people they never talked to. It was very bizarre and lazy. Marcus Jones is a complete joke. I could not stand to watch him come up on the screen.

UM never interviewed the EMT worker who is in this documentary who said from the beginning that Keith did not committ suicide. He said the media suppressed Keith's murder and there was only a small blip in a newspaper a week later about Keith.

After watching this documentary and processing everything I can honestly say it is likely that Sherri Warren will never know what happened to her brother. The friends til this day refuse to talk in fear for their safety they claim. So if they truly are afraid who exactly are they afraid of?

I feel that Keith may have got himself caught up in an occult scandal, a same sex relationship that went awry, or a drug overdose. The things that were done with his body did not make sense. Unless this new documentary tugs at someone's heartstrings and they come forward I do not feel this case will ever be solved because no one is talking.

This case always reminded me of Kurt Silva's case. If Keith had just died of an overdose why take the time to stage the suicide? If this was a group of young kids they would have just dumped the body in the woods and took off. Someone went to great lengths to make this look like a suicide.

[freakbook]

Originally Posted by infinityluxe

This case always reminded me of Kurt Silva's case. If Keith had just died of an overdose why take the time to stage the suicide? If this was a group of young kids they would have just dumped the body in the woods and took off. Someone went to great lengths to make this look like a suicide.

Thanks so much for the write-up, infinityluxe! Really appreciate that.

And you're spot on 110%. Keith Warren's situation is very similar to Kurt Silva's. Since no damage was found on the body I'm going to assume he died of drugs/alcohol and the "hanging" was a red-herring to throw heat off of the people he was with when he died.

Why would they do that? Dunno. Perhaps they had illegal drugs and didn't want to get investigated and in trouble

[infinityluxe]

Originally Posted by freakbook

Thanks so much for the write-up, infinityluxe! Really appreciate that.

And you're spot on 110%. Keith Warren's situation is very similar to Kurt Silva's. Since no damage was found on the body I'm going to assume he died of drugs/alcohol and the "hanging" was a red-herring to throw heat off of the people he was with when he died.

Why would they do that? Dunno. Perhaps they had illegal drugs and didn't want to get investigated and in trouble

No problem. What is your take on them changing his clothing? His original clothing was turned over to his mother and she was told it was what he was wearing. However; in the pictures he has on entirely different clothing that was not his.

[freakbook]

Originally Posted by infinityluxe

No problem. What is your take on them changing his clothing? His original clothing was turned over to his mother and she was told it was what he was wearing. However; in the pictures he has on entirely different clothing that was not his.

It's hard to say since we really don't know how Keith died since he wasn't given an official autopsy. However, I'm going to assume that his original clothing had something incriminating on it (vomit, blood, etc) that either would make it look like it wasn't a suicide, or something incriminating that could be traced back to whoever hung him on the tree.

Whoever was around Keith when he died, or killed him didn't want him to be found in his original clothes because they probably were stained or ripped and they didn't want his death being investigated as a murder so they wouldn't be suspected by the police.

They probably destroyed the clothes he was wearing, and then dressed him in some random clothes they had laying around. I'm assuming the reason why his boots and jacket were placed near his body was because they were clean and didn't contain anything incriminating on them

[dynoguy88]

Originally Posted by freakbook

Keith Warren's situation is very similar to Kurt Silva's. Since no damage was found on the body I'm going to assume he died of drugs/alcohol and the "hanging" was a red-herring to throw heat off of the people he was with when he died.

Why would they do that? Dunno. Perhaps they had illegal drugs and didn't want to get investigated and in trouble

That's what it always appeared to me as well. This is a Kurt Sova situation only the coverup was much more organized. Although, unlike the Kurt Sova segment, UM makes no mention of when Keith was last seen, when he last had contact with his family, who was the last to see him alive and who did he attend the party with?

I also wonder what the point was of sending the pictures of Keith hanging by the tree to his family members, other than to terrorize them.

[freakbook]

Originally Posted by dynoguy88

I also wonder what the point was of sending the pictures of Keith hanging by the tree to his family members, other than to terrorize them.

The later investigator in the segment had said that the police department admitted that the photos that were sent to Keith' s mother were from the police department prints.

I'm assuming a police officer who knew the case was being mishandled had sent her the photos showing the different angles to verify that it wasnt a suicide, but didn' t want to be known as they didn't want to get heat from the PD.

I think whoever sent the prints was trying to help the mother rather than torture her. Those prints were the reason she got a private investigator, and his corpse exhumed for a different autopsy which had found the chemicals in his system

Youre right about the case not having much information which makes it seem way more terrifying than what it is. I personally think that Keith was partying and died from a drug ooverdose, and the people he was with "hung" him from a tree to throw off suspicion so they wouldnt get in trouble ala Kurt Sova

I don't see some vicious, thugged out killers bothering to change his clothes, and take the time to " hang" him from a tree. Whoever hung him had to be physically weak, or fewer in numbers as they didnt even bother to hang him from a tree that would make sense. They just stood him up and tied a rope around a tiny tree that was bending under his weight

[dynoguy88]

Originally Posted by freakbook

I don't see some vicious, thugged out killers bothering to change his clothes, and take the time to " hang" him from a tree. Whoever hung him had to be physically weak, or fewer in numbers as they didnt even bother to hang him from a tree that would make sense. They just stood him up and tied a rope around a tiny tree that was bending under his weight

Ugh...the tree always seemed like a giant red flag to me seeing how small it was.

I really need to watch these three episodes.

[freakbook]

Originally Posted by dynoguy88

Ugh...the tree always seemed like a giant red flag to me seeing how small it was.

I really need to watch these three episodes.

Yeah, the tree was ridiculous. And I've never heard of anyone hanging themselves with their feet on the ground, he's not even hanging, just being held in place.

I want to watch them too, but I don't have discovery+

[5thBeatle]

On Discovery Plus, they showing a 3 part series investigation on the death of Keith Warren, the young man who was found hung in a tree. I always found this case interesting on Unsolved Mysteries. About to watch it now, I hope his mom is still alive and in this documentary too…

[infinityluxe]

Originally Posted by 5thBeatle

On Discovery Plus, they showing a 3 part series investigation on the death of Keith Warren, the young man who was found hung in a tree. I always found this case interesting on Unsolved Mysteries. About to watch it now, I hope his mom is still alive and in this documentary too…

This was posted in another thread and we had a discussion about it.

Its a very good special. Sadly Keith's mother died in 2009.

I feel bad for his sister she seems so bitter and angry.

Looks like she never married or had children either.

To look at her on UM segment and look at her now she looks like a totally different person. She was drop dead gorgeous in her youth and sadly she looks really bad.

I hope she finds answers and gets justice for her loved one, but I feel sad she has consumed herself with his murder (which I believe it was). Keith would have wanted her to move on with her life.

One thing I have found very strange about this case is that Keith's father has never surfaced even though he was still in his children's lives. He also accepted Keith committed suicide and refused to help his ex wife find answers as to what could have happened to Keith.

[5thBeatle]

Oh ok thanks for that, I will try to find that thread on the message on look for it, so many threads on here lol. Yeah I remember his sister being a cute girl during the the UM segment too. Sorry to hear the mother passed away, way before this documentary and never getting closure on what actually happened to her son.

[TJ]

This is an excellent documentary. I don't know how anyone can think it was a suicide. There was clearly foul play or the scene was staged. Hopefully Sherri can get justice for her brother one day. It was interesting when she mentioned that she got in it a little bit with some people on some online forums. I wonder if she was talking about this place.

Does anyone remember if they mentioned the location for the graves of Keith and his mother Mary Couey? I think they are in North Carolina. I suggested to Lamont At Large that he feature the case on his YouTube channel, but Find a Grave doesn't list the location. It looks like they are at a smaller cemetery for the Harris family.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...waddell-warren
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...lizabeth-couey

Sherri and some of the same people were featured in the first episode The Injustice Files in 2012. It's on the ID site and discovery+.

At the End of a Rope
Filmmaker Keith Beauchamp investigates four mysterious hanging deaths that have taken place within the last 30 years: Keith Warren (1986), Raynard Johnson (2000), Izell Parrott (2005) and Frederick Jermaine Carter (2010).

https://www.investigationdiscovery.c...covery-atve-us
https://www.amazon.com/At-End-Rope/d...eo%2C79&sr=1-1