Zodiac Killer May Have Been Identified

[Janel "Jaycee" Miller]

If this story is really true, in that this guy is really the Zodiac killer, then once again, my mind is blown at how many cold cases (and which specific ones) have been solved after so many years.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/cold-case...ntified-murder

[Dude111]

Yes its good they dont give up on some of em!!!!!!!!!

[Corkys-Place]

If there was ever a monster who I thought would NEVER be caught it was the Original Night Stalker, but they got it in 2018 after 40+ years. So I'm guessing anything's possible. Unfortunately this suspect in the Zodiac saga died in 2018 so he won't face any justice...well not in this world anyway.

[EighthStreet]

What's all this about him having a posse of killers? This guy was out living Red Dead Redemption in real life apparently.

[Gelatinous Goo]

Yawn. I think the better question is "Who isn't the Zodiac Killer?".

[TheCars1986]

So the evidence presented thus far is that he had wrinkles on his forehead? Like...that's it? This same group claimed to have identified DB Cooper a few years ago. I don't buy it.

[bell83]

Originally Posted by Gelatinous Goo

Yawn. I think the better question is "Who isn't the Zodiac Killer?".

Well, I'M not.....

That's one down.

[RetroGuy2000]

Originally Posted by TheCars1986

So the evidence presented thus far is that he had wrinkles on his forehead? Like...that's it? This same group claimed to have identified DB Cooper a few years ago. I don't buy it.

The "wrinkles" are actually scars on his forehead which closely match the suspect sketch. And that is not the only evidence presented. Two relatives of Poste claimed six years ago that Gary Francis Poste was the Zodiac Killer; one said she left the state to avoid him.

And there is forensic evidence:

The team said it had based its case on forensic evidence, photos found in Poste’s own darkroom and on some of the serial killer’s coded notes.

The forensic evidence proved Poste killed Cheri Jo Bates, the group claimed.

Bates was murdered in 1966 and has been connected by some to the Zodiac Killer - although the San Francisco Chronicle said this theory had been debunked by local police in August.

Poste was also said to bear a resemblance to a 1969 police sketch of the Zodiac Killer thanks to scars on his forehead.

And the letters of his name were found to change the meaning of the ciphers the serial killer had sent in letters to newspapers, and identified Poste as the killer.

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

The "wrinkles" are actually scars on his forehead which closely match the suspect sketch. And that is not the only evidence presented. Two relatives of Poste claimed six years ago that Gary Francis Poste was the Zodiac Killer; one said she left the state to avoid him.

And there is forensic evidence:

The Riverside Police knew about this guy 6 years ago. When he was alive. They ruled him out as being responsible for the murder of Cheri Jo Bates. Here is "The Case Breakers" press release. It looks like something a middle schooler would come up with. It's also kind of funny how they are matching "scars" to a sketch that was amended by witnesses to get rid of said "scars" on the Zodiac.

[RetroGuy2000]

Originally Posted by TheCars1986

The Riverside Police knew about this guy 6 years ago. When he was alive. They ruled him out as being responsible for the murder of Cheri Jo Bates.

And here is the response from the Case Breakers team: "The real portion here has everything to do with ego and arrogance," Case Breakers team member Bill Proctor, a former police officer, told Fox News of the Riverside Police Department. "They're not talking about what they have which means that anybody else who comes to the table might have a reasonable argument that an outside organization's information is as valuable, if not more valuable, than what the police department has already done."

Originally Posted by TheCars1986

Here is "The Case Breakers" press release. It looks like something a middle schooler would come up with.

You think a middle schooler came up with this?

Originally Posted by Code Breakers

1) On 10/30/66, Riverside PD detectives collected a wristwatch with a broken band, thought to have come off the killer during his assault. Investigators believe this Timex was purchased at a military base PX. (In the mid-1960s, Poste was a USAF veteran receiving medical check-ups for a gun accident injury at the March Air Force Base hospital – just a 15-minute drive from Bates’ college murder scene).

2) Forensic lab also noted paint spattered on the wristwatch’s face. (In 1963, veteran Poste became a housepainter for over 40 years; was the watch strap checked for DNA?).

3) Also found: a heelprint in the dirt, later confirmed to be from “a military-style boot,” size 10. (The same style and shoe size found at three other Zodiac crime scenes – and style/size of Poste).

For 7 years, nobody in authority would listen to Wil – until The Case Breakers were alerted. A sample from his hour interview about Poste: “He had a great side. He just didn't have a conscience. He could kill indiscriminately. And I mean, you know, he's pretty much proven that over the years, he couldn't even stop after he moved up here. Uh, he still had to continue to kill, even if it was small animals just to make himself feel better. I've seen him kill bears, deer, otter, um, ferrets. Marmots, just anything that lived, he liked to shoot them, watch [them] fall down. He liked to mess with the carcasses when he was done. He just got bloody.”

I find it a little hard to believe that a middle schooler would be able to research where someone was receiving medical check-ups, or that a watch with paint on it, found at the crime scene, would be matched to a house painter by a middle schooler. It sounds like you're blowing smoke.

It's also kind of funny how they are matching "scars" to a sketch that was amended by witnesses to get rid of said "scars" on the Zodiac.

Even the amended drawing shows deep creases in the forehead.

And there's no answer from you about why two of the suspect's relatives have identified him as the Zodiac Killer. Are they also middle schoolers?

[Gelatinous Goo]

Please don't anybody say they buy this story. The evidence for this guy is incredibly thin. LE ruled him out years ago for the Bates murder. I understand that LE isn't always right, but if they ruled him out, we have what, exactly:

Same size and type of boot?! Wow. Nobody else on earth has size 10s and wore that type of boot in an era where the draft was still in effect! Sheesh.

Forehead wrinkles and/or scars? That is sooo rare!

Brown hair? Now we're getting places!

Two days ago, I read another story of some guy from Oregon who someone claimed was the Zodiac and his name was also spelled out in the cipher. Stop it.

Another day, another story about another person someone is sure was the Zodiac.

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

And here is the response from the Case Breakers team: "The real portion here has everything to do with ego and arrogance," Case Breakers team member Bill Proctor, a former police officer, told Fox News of the Riverside Police Department. "They're not talking about what they have which means that anybody else who comes to the table might have a reasonable argument that an outside organization's information is as valuable, if not more valuable, than what the police department has already done."

From the article I linked:

As for any Zodiac links to Bates’ murder, Railsback said his department worked with FBI agents to debunk a letter and other indicators that had purportedly pointed to the Zodiac, and in August announced that information along with a $50,000 reward for tips leading to Bates’ actual killer. The Case Breakers called him about the reward, he said, but they didn’t follow up when he asked for more information.

Imagine my shock.

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

You think a middle schooler came up with this?

It looks like a middle schooler's book report. As in, "Cheri Jo Bates was found murdered with a wrist watch at the scene. Guess who else wore wrist watches?! Gary Poste!"

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

I find it a little hard to believe that a middle schooler would be able to research where someone was receiving medical check-ups, or that a watch with paint on it, found at the crime scene, would be matched to a house painter by a middle schooler. It sounds like you're blowing smoke.

-The wristwatch was found at the Bates homicide scene. They believe it was purchased at a military base. Poste was receiving medical checkups at a military base 15 miles away from where Bates was murdered. Okay?

-There was paint found on the wristwatch. Poste was a housepainter.

-The bootprint found at the crime scene was thought to have come from a "military style boot". Poste wore the "same size".

-There was brown hair found in Bates's clenched fist. Poste had brown hair.

^ That is literally the evidence they presented and deemed it "forensic". Give me a break.

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

Even the amended drawing shows deep creases in the forehead.

Quite different from the lines that the non-amended one that they are comparing to the Poste picture in their "evidence".

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

And there's no answer from you about why two of the suspect's relatives have identified him as the Zodiac Killer. Are they also middle schoolers?

They suspected he was the Zodiac because he had a tempter and attacked one with a hammer. What makes these people any different than the other myriad of people coming out of the woodwork to claim that their father/brother/uncle/etc. was the Zodiac? This was last year. And the press ran with it.

[Gelatinous Goo]

Insofar as the relatives coming forward to state he was the killer, I could care less. Yeah, and I'm the freaking Lindbergh Baby. How many so-called relatives have come forward for so many unsolved crimes, let alone just for this one?

The worst instance of this was that kid who did that TV show that claimed his relative Edward Wayne Edwards committed practically every famous murder which he would have been alive to do. This was undoubtedly the ****tiest program ever aired in the genre and should never have gotten past the initial laugh out the door of the network.

[RetroGuy2000]

Originally Posted by TheCars1986

It looks like a middle schooler's book report. As in, "Cheri Jo Bates was found murdered with a wrist watch at the scene. Guess who else wore wrist watches?! Gary Poste!"

It doesn't say that at all. You wrote that. Are you a middle schooler?

What you've done, here, is created a straw man argument: something the group didn't say, so you can tear it down. But if their theory is incorrect, it won't need to be torn down by a fake quote. No more of those, please.

-The wristwatch was found at the Bates homicide scene. They believe it was purchased at a military base. Poste was receiving medical checkups at a military base 15 miles away from where Bates was murdered. Okay?

-There was paint found on the wristwatch. Poste was a housepainter.

-The bootprint found at the crime scene was thought to have come from a "military style boot". Poste wore the "same size".

-There was brown hair found in Bates's clenched fist. Poste had brown hair.

^ That is literally the evidence they presented and deemed it "forensic". Give me a break.

Yes, shoe sizes, hair color, and paint are all considered forensic evidence. You'd have to be a middle schooler to not understand that.

They suspected he was the Zodiac because he had a tempter and attacked one with a hammer.

Yes, people who actually knew this man stated openly and repeatedly that he was the Zodiac Killer. but clearly you know more than the man's own relatives. What evidence do you have, from when you lived with this man, that exonerates him?

[alistaircranium]

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

It doesn't say that at all. You wrote that. Are you a middle schooler?

What you've done, here, is created a straw man argument: something the group didn't say, so you can tear it down. But if their theory is incorrect, it won't need to be torn down by a fake quote. No more of those, please.



Yes, shoe sizes, hair color, and paint are all considered forensic evidence. You'd have to be a middle schooler to not understand that.



Yes, people who actually knew this man stated openly and repeatedly that he was the Zodiac Killer. but clearly you know more than the man's own relatives. What evidence do you have, from when you lived with this man, that exonerates him?

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