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Dude111 · 08-07-2021, 01:58 PM

The one who believes that their evil acts are good,or one who knows their being evil?

I recently watched a vid that compared two different types of evil characters. It discussed the villains who know they are evil,but act evil anyway for the sake of it,vs. the villains who actually believe that their evil acts are good and they are good people for doing them. It led to raise this question.

Which type of evil person is worse? One who knows they are being evil but do it anyway,or one who is convinced they are being good by doing evil things?

I know this is an interesting question,but any thoughts?

GentlemanJim · 08-07-2021, 02:13 PM

"Evil" is subjective. Often times a person or group acting in their own best interest, appears "evil" to others not sharing their particular priorities.

I think it was in the movie True Lies where one of the characters states ~there are no good guys or bad guys, it's just us vs them~ or something very similar.

GentlemanJim · 08-07-2021, 02:23 PM

I do get a kick sometimes out of the stagecraft Hollywood employs to make sure the audience identifies the "bad guy" as such. Kicking a puppy, or pushing a little old lady out of the way to take the taxi she was trying to hail.

Dude111 · 08-07-2021, 03:35 PM

Yes Jim true lies is excellent!! (I have it recorded from analogue cable

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GentlemanJim · 08-07-2021, 03:55 PM

Some people always insist upon seeing all conflicts in a "good guys/bad guys" frame of reference. And I generally try to at least understand the position of both sides.

I tend too often towards the "underdog" side of the equation, because I'm such a softie.

GentlemanJim · 08-07-2021, 04:02 PM

Of course, there is a good bit of "stagecraft" that goes on in our everyday world, designed to provoke a reaction that otherwise might not happen. Prosecuting attorneys in particular come to mind as being willing to set a stage that really never existed, just to enhance their chances at a conviction.

Caroline13 · 08-07-2021, 04:49 PM

Evil comes in so many ways and from so many minds...I find a lot of evil thoughts in many avatars I've encountered in recent months. WOW.

GentlemanJim · 08-07-2021, 04:58 PM

Devil -----> Evil
God ------> Good

Coincidence?

D-Dey · 08-19-2021, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GentlemanJim

I do get a kick sometimes out of the stagecraft Hollywood employs to make sure the audience identifies the "bad guy" as such. Kicking a puppy, or pushing a little old lady out of the way to take the taxi she was trying to hail.

Sometimes real life is even worse than that.
https://www.indiatimes.com/news/worl...?picid=1768099
And somewhere I saw a picture of an ISIS thug kicking a baby like a soccer ball.

Janice Johnson · 08-29-2021, 11:03 AM

The person doing evil acts that they think is good is clearly less evil than the Evil Person who knows they are being evil. At least the Person who does evil acts that think they're doing good did those evil acts with good intentions....

GentlemanJim · 08-29-2021, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by D-Dey

Sometimes real life is even worse than that.

And somewhere I saw a picture of an ISIS thug kicking a baby like a soccer ball.

The ISIS soldier you mention likely saw his service as being to the "good" cause?

Sorta like cops who get themselves so stoked up believing they are fighting the "good fight", that they are willing to violate citizen's civil rights to get the job done, by convincing themselves that the ends justify the means

As the old song goes: "Don't let the handshake and the smiling fool ya..."

D-Dey · 09-11-2021, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GentlemanJim

The ISIS soldier you mention likely saw his service as being to the "good" cause?

Sorta like cops who get themselves so stoked up believing they are fighting the "good fight", that they are willing to violate citizen's civil rights to get the job done, by convincing themselves that the ends justify the means

As the old song goes: "Don't let the handshake and the smiling fool ya..."

Don't worry, I'm far from oblivious to this sort of thing. Nazis and Commies also saw their activities as good causes.

Caroline13 · 09-11-2021, 02:43 PM

I'm thinking of a person right now who is NOT supposed to be evil in our lives but I can't find the good in this person....I won't mention a name but perhaps you can read my mind.

08-07-2021, 02:13 PM	#2
GentlemanJim Concerns, Support, & Feedback Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 26, 2019 Location: The back country Posts: 5,443	"Evil" is subjective. Often times a person or group acting in their own best interest, appears "evil" to others not sharing their particular priorities. I think it was in the movie True Lies where one of the characters states ~there are no good guys or bad guys, it's just us vs them~ or something very similar.
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Caroline13 Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Jan 30, 2021 Location: So Calif Posts: 14,483	Evil comes in so many ways and from so many minds...I find a lot of evil thoughts in many avatars I've encountered in recent months. WOW.
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08-07-2021, 01:58 PM	#1
Dude111 Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 05, 2013 Posts: 36,625	The one who believes that their evil acts are good,or one who knows their being evil? I recently watched a vid that compared two different types of evil characters. It discussed the villains who know they are evil,but act evil anyway for the sake of it,vs. the villains who actually believe that their evil acts are good and they are good people for doing them. It led to raise this question. Which type of evil person is worse? One who knows they are being evil but do it anyway,or one who is convinced they are being good by doing evil things? I know this is an interesting question,but any thoughts?

08-07-2021, 02:23 PM	#3
GentlemanJim Concerns, Support, & Feedback Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 26, 2019 Location: The back country Posts: 5,443	I do get a kick sometimes out of the stagecraft Hollywood employs to make sure the audience identifies the "bad guy" as such. Kicking a puppy, or pushing a little old lady out of the way to take the taxi she was trying to hail.

08-07-2021, 03:35 PM	#4
Dude111 Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 05, 2013 Posts: 36,625	Yes Jim true lies is excellent!! (I have it recorded from analogue cable )

08-07-2021, 03:55 PM	#5
GentlemanJim Concerns, Support, & Feedback Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 26, 2019 Location: The back country Posts: 5,443	Some people always insist upon seeing all conflicts in a "good guys/bad guys" frame of reference. And I generally try to at least understand the position of both sides. I tend too often towards the "underdog" side of the equation, because I'm such a softie.

08-07-2021, 04:02 PM	#6
GentlemanJim Concerns, Support, & Feedback Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 26, 2019 Location: The back country Posts: 5,443	Of course, there is a good bit of "stagecraft" that goes on in our everyday world, designed to provoke a reaction that otherwise might not happen. Prosecuting attorneys in particular come to mind as being willing to set a stage that really never existed, just to enhance their chances at a conviction.

08-07-2021, 04:58 PM	#8
GentlemanJim Concerns, Support, & Feedback Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 26, 2019 Location: The back country Posts: 5,443	Devil -----> Evil God ------> Good Coincidence?

08-29-2021, 11:03 AM	#10
Janice Johnson Commercial Lover Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 30, 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 4,740	The person doing evil acts that they think is good is clearly less evil than the Evil Person who knows they are being evil. At least the Person who does evil acts that think they're doing good did those evil acts with good intentions....

09-11-2021, 02:43 PM	#13
Caroline13 Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Jan 30, 2021 Location: So Calif Posts: 14,483	I'm thinking of a person right now who is NOT supposed to be evil in our lives but I can't find the good in this person....I won't mention a name but perhaps you can read my mind.