LITB and "Peanuts" - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

MichaelMartinD · 05-20-2021, 08:55 AM

Back on the old Internet Movie Database message boards I once started a thread about similarities between LITB and Charles Schulz' "Peanuts." At the center of each you have a little boy - Charlie Brown, Beaver Cleaver - who is hapless and cursed with insufferable friends. Both get into bad situations because of their gullibility and foolishness, and Beaver at times shows a self-doubting and depressive streak a bit like Charlie Brown. Yet despite their hapless nature, both Charlie and Beaver are respected and liked by their friends because of their inherent decency and goodness.

Even some of the supporting characters are similar - Judy Hensler is like Lucy, Whitey looks a bit like Schroeder. There are scenes in the earlier episodes (I don't remember which) where Beaver's schoolmates are walking in a group down the street and it looks exactly like the "Peanuts" gang.

Both LITB and "Peanuts" have become icons of childhood in the 1950s and early 60s, with the "Peanuts" comic strip having debuted in 1950, seven years before LITB. I often wonder if the creators of LITB were influenced by "Peanuts" in any way.

stevea · 05-20-2021, 06:27 PM

That's interesting! Now if we'd have had Whitey playing classical on a toy piano, and Judy lounging on it. Judy pulling the football gag on Beaver, and playing outfield while Beaver is pitching on his baseball team...

Ward and June--nope, just wah-wah music.

MichaelMartinD · 05-21-2021, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stevea

Ward and June--nope, just wah-wah music.

That is one major difference - adults did not figure into "Peanuts" at all, whereas they do on LITB. But I think the basic premise of both is very similar: the world as seen through the eyes of children.

TheLittleFaerie · 05-26-2021, 09:19 AM

One big difference is, Beaver was generally optimistic, whereas poor Charlie Brown was always down on himself and almost suicidal seeming at times

vitoscotti · 05-26-2021, 09:41 AM

Peter Robbins (original Charlie Brown voice) interview.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lE5iKxa6xMk

MichaelMartinD · 05-26-2021, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLittleFaerie

One big difference is, Beaver was generally optimistic, whereas poor Charlie Brown was always down on himself and almost suicidal seeming at times

Generally that is true, but Beaver did have some down and out moments - think about how he was in "Ward's Millions," "Mothers' Day Composition," or "Nobody Loves Me" (that title sounds very Charlie Brown!)

stevea · 05-26-2021, 02:52 PM

And Beaver's Tonsils, where they had so full of good stories he actually wanted them out. Then he ended up crying when the doctor said no.

05-20-2021, 08:55 AM	#1
MichaelMartinD Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 23, 2013 Posts: 573	LITB and "Peanuts" Back on the old Internet Movie Database message boards I once started a thread about similarities between LITB and Charles Schulz' "Peanuts." At the center of each you have a little boy - Charlie Brown, Beaver Cleaver - who is hapless and cursed with insufferable friends. Both get into bad situations because of their gullibility and foolishness, and Beaver at times shows a self-doubting and depressive streak a bit like Charlie Brown. Yet despite their hapless nature, both Charlie and Beaver are respected and liked by their friends because of their inherent decency and goodness. Even some of the supporting characters are similar - Judy Hensler is like Lucy, Whitey looks a bit like Schroeder. There are scenes in the earlier episodes (I don't remember which) where Beaver's schoolmates are walking in a group down the street and it looks exactly like the "Peanuts" gang. Both LITB and "Peanuts" have become icons of childhood in the 1950s and early 60s, with the "Peanuts" comic strip having debuted in 1950, seven years before LITB. I often wonder if the creators of LITB were influenced by "Peanuts" in any way.
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05-20-2021, 06:27 PM	#2
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,160	That's interesting! Now if we'd have had Whitey playing classical on a toy piano, and Judy lounging on it. Judy pulling the football gag on Beaver, and playing outfield while Beaver is pitching on his baseball team... Ward and June--nope, just wah-wah music.

05-26-2021, 09:19 AM	#4
TheLittleFaerie Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 15, 2017 Posts: 1,937	One big difference is, Beaver was generally optimistic, whereas poor Charlie Brown was always down on himself and almost suicidal seeming at times

05-26-2021, 09:41 AM	#5
vitoscotti Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 14, 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,065	Peter Robbins (original Charlie Brown voice) interview. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lE5iKxa6xMk

05-26-2021, 02:52 PM	#7
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,160	And Beaver's Tonsils, where they had so full of good stories he actually wanted them out. Then he ended up crying when the doctor said no.