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MrCleveland · 12-08-2020, 10:43 AM

I ask myself this...what would've happened if John Lennon survived the shooting? Would there have been a true Beatles reunion?

Penny Lane · 12-08-2020, 12:02 PM

It was 40 years ago today................

JO Sweet Heart · 12-08-2020, 12:20 PM

Because I wasn't around then yet, one question that I have is, was John personally connected to the guy who shot him in any way at all?

God bless you and his family always!!!

Holly

opus · 12-08-2020, 02:13 PM

No internet back then. Who else first heard the news from Howard Cosell while watching Monday Night Football?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n73GFvAyIjs

AMackII · 12-08-2020, 04:58 PM

I wasn’t even around back when he[Lennon] passed on the date

TMC · 12-08-2020, 10:51 PM

Howard Cosell announced John Lennon's death on Monday Night Football 40 years ago tonight

During the 4th quarter of an unremarkable game between the Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots on Dec. 8, 1980, Cosell broke the news that the former Beatle had been shot and killed outside of his apartment in New York City. “We have to say it: “Remember, this is just a football game, no matter who wins or loses," Cosell said. "An unspeakable tragedy, confirmed to us by ABC News in New York City: John Lennon, outside of his apartment building on the West Side of New York City, the most famous perhaps of all of the Beatles, shot twice in the back, rushed to Roosevelt Hospital, dead on arrival.” Cosell, who was initially reluctant to break the news during a sporting event, was friendly with Lennon having interviewed him twice, once on his radio show and, memorably, on Monday Night Football in 1974. ALSO: How TV news covered Lennon's killing 40 years ago this week.

Edward216 · 12-09-2020, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by opus

No internet back then. Who else first heard the news from Howard Cosell while watching Monday Night Football?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n73GFvAyIjs

I was 11 and a half (my birthday's in February) and if I remember I first heard about John Lennon's murder on the radio actually.

Ed.

AB · 12-09-2020, 04:04 PM

They did a special on 20/20 about him either in October or November.

https://www.laughingplace.com/w/news...acy-last-days/

DJM77 · 12-09-2020, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JO Sweet Heart

Because I wasn't around then yet, one question that I have is, was John personally connected to the guy who shot him in any way at all?

God bless you and his family always!!!

Holly

Mark David Chapman was just a deranged fan. John Lennon didn't know him.

JO Sweet Heart · 12-10-2020, 08:38 AM

^^^ Thank you. According to what I read, the shooter is still here.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Sherrie Anson · 12-13-2020, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JO Sweet Heart

^^^ Thank you. According to what I read, the shooter is still here.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

I saw that Chapman will be listed as one of those who qualify for a parole this 2022. But I am not sure if he is really qualified.

TVShowAddict · 12-13-2020, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherrie Anson

I saw that Chapman will be listed as one of those who qualify for a parole this 2022. But I am not sure if he is really qualified.

Chapman has been denied parole 11 times since 2000 and Yoko Oko wrote to the board requesting that he not be released from prison for the safety of John's sons and if he was released, there will be John Lennon fans waiting for him outside to kill him, Mark will never be released and will die in jail

ABlairican Pie · 12-14-2020, 08:27 AM

My reaction that evening when my younger brother told me that John Lennon had been shot was, "hmph". I was a young impressionable new Christian who felt a sense of self-righteousness that a major music figure had got his "just desserts" for comments about Christ he had made in a magazine interview in Britain fourteen years before at the height of fame with The Beatles. But very soon, after exposure to their music at a party that next weekend celebrating their music, I began to open my eyes and ears to Lennon's music, that it was exciting and joyous. The Beatles came along just at the right time in 1963, 1964 to help the country recover from the tragedy of Kennedy's assassination. But what was there to help us recover from the tragedy of Lennon's assassination?

I later learned that Lennon was a troubled young man who encountered huge success early. He was known to be rather outspoken with the press. His assassin had a warped vendetta over Lennon's comments about Christ, which were largely taken out of context in America when teenagers went on rampage and trashed Beatles albums in an act of collective outrage in 1966. Mark David Chapman also found Lennon's lavish lifestyle inconsistent with his views of being a person who had "sacrificed" so much, that Lennon was some sort of "hypocrite". Ironically, Lennon had adopted the lifestyle of a stay-at-home father who remained content with just "watching the wheels go round and round", as he had to jump off riding the merry-go-round of fame and success.

Given the raucous lifestyles and exploits of many rock and metal artists in the coming years of the 1980's, it was a surprise that many of these performers did not suffer the same fate at the hands of disturbed "righteous" vigilantes. It was as if riotous behavior of rock and roll and religious extremism were on a collision course during that decade.

MrCleveland · 12-24-2020, 09:01 PM

^To think...Jerry Lee Lewis and Jimmy Swaggart are cousins! Though Swaggart slammed rock as evil...he did live a rock-and-roll life!

This is why despite being Lutheran (AKA-Diet Catholic)...I think the e-van-gel-i-cals should pray for their debaucheries.

ABlairican Pie · 12-25-2020, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MrCleveland

^To think...Jerry Lee Lewis and Jimmy Swaggart are cousins! Though Swaggart slammed rock as evil...he did live a rock-and-roll life!

This is why despite being Lutheran (AKA-Diet Catholic)...I think the e-van-gel-i-cals should pray for their debaucheries.

I also read that country singer Mel Tillis was Swaggart's cousin.

Crazy to think, that in the 80's when so much rock and roll debauchery ran rampant, the REAL party was going on in the halls of televangelism!

Believe it or not, suppressed stories of sordid behavior continue to this day in very high-profile "ministries" all over.

12-08-2020, 10:43 AM	#1
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JO Sweet Heart Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 11, 2012 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 7,847	Because I wasn't around then yet, one question that I have is, was John personally connected to the guy who shot him in any way at all? God bless you and his family always!!! Holly
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12-14-2020, 08:27 AM	#13
ABlairican Pie Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 12, 2001 Location: Living where cats reign more Supreme than a pizza. Posts: 31,620	My reaction that evening when my younger brother told me that John Lennon had been shot was, "hmph". I was a young impressionable new Christian who felt a sense of self-righteousness that a major music figure had got his "just desserts" for comments about Christ he had made in a magazine interview in Britain fourteen years before at the height of fame with The Beatles. But very soon, after exposure to their music at a party that next weekend celebrating their music, I began to open my eyes and ears to Lennon's music, that it was exciting and joyous. The Beatles came along just at the right time in 1963, 1964 to help the country recover from the tragedy of Kennedy's assassination. But what was there to help us recover from the tragedy of Lennon's assassination? I later learned that Lennon was a troubled young man who encountered huge success early. He was known to be rather outspoken with the press. His assassin had a warped vendetta over Lennon's comments about Christ, which were largely taken out of context in America when teenagers went on rampage and trashed Beatles albums in an act of collective outrage in 1966. Mark David Chapman also found Lennon's lavish lifestyle inconsistent with his views of being a person who had "sacrificed" so much, that Lennon was some sort of "hypocrite". Ironically, Lennon had adopted the lifestyle of a stay-at-home father who remained content with just "watching the wheels go round and round", as he had to jump off riding the merry-go-round of fame and success. Given the raucous lifestyles and exploits of many rock and metal artists in the coming years of the 1980's, it was a surprise that many of these performers did not suffer the same fate at the hands of disturbed "righteous" vigilantes. It was as if riotous behavior of rock and roll and religious extremism were on a collision course during that decade.
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12-08-2020, 02:13 PM	#4
opus VB Forum Superstar Join Date: May 16, 2015 Location: VB Galaxy Posts: 32,256	No internet back then. Who else first heard the news from Howard Cosell while watching Monday Night Football? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n73GFvAyIjs

12-08-2020, 04:58 PM	#5
AMackII Member Forum Star Join Date: Oct 23, 2015 Location: St. Louis Posts: 17,214	I wasn’t even around back when he[Lennon] passed on the date

12-08-2020, 10:51 PM	#6
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 125,403	Howard Cosell announced John Lennon's death on Monday Night Football 40 years ago tonight During the 4th quarter of an unremarkable game between the Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots on Dec. 8, 1980, Cosell broke the news that the former Beatle had been shot and killed outside of his apartment in New York City. “We have to say it: “Remember, this is just a football game, no matter who wins or loses," Cosell said. "An unspeakable tragedy, confirmed to us by ABC News in New York City: John Lennon, outside of his apartment building on the West Side of New York City, the most famous perhaps of all of the Beatles, shot twice in the back, rushed to Roosevelt Hospital, dead on arrival.” Cosell, who was initially reluctant to break the news during a sporting event, was friendly with Lennon having interviewed him twice, once on his radio show and, memorably, on Monday Night Football in 1974. ALSO: How TV news covered Lennon's killing 40 years ago this week.

12-09-2020, 04:04 PM	#8
AB Member Eternal Member Forum Icon Join Date: Dec 26, 2006 Location: The South Posts: 59,429	They did a special on 20/20 about him either in October or November. https://www.laughingplace.com/w/news...acy-last-days/

12-10-2020, 08:38 AM	#10
JO Sweet Heart Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 11, 2012 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 7,847	^^^ Thank you. According to what I read, the shooter is still here. God bless you always!!! Holly

12-24-2020, 09:01 PM	#14
MrCleveland Drew Carey from Hell Forum Star Join Date: Nov 10, 2007 Location: The City of Cleveland, in The State of Cleveland, in The United States of Cleveland Posts: 14,222	^To think...Jerry Lee Lewis and Jimmy Swaggart are cousins! Though Swaggart slammed rock as evil...he did live a rock-and-roll life! This is why despite being Lutheran (AKA-Diet Catholic)...I think the e-van-gel-i-cals should pray for their debaucheries.