Did Victorious set unfortunate implications surrounding certain sets of women - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TMC · 12-15-2019, 05:05 AM

I'll try to be careful when I frame this. I've been reading comments elsewhere online. And some people have formulated a theory that almost every single black girl or woman on the show is quite frankly, portrayed in an extremely negative and/or stereotypical light.

To give you some insight, there's an episode where Andre (the only black character in the main cast) has a cousin who is hired to interrupt the director that screwed the kids over. The character just so happens to be very rude, loud, and violent. The episode culminated in her beating the director on live television.

In another episode, Andre starts dating a black girl who just so happens to aggressive, mean, and bossy. Andre and Tori decide to exploit their relationship to perform in front of her famous father. The character was hit on the head by a sign and hospitalized, after which Andre smiled. Her own father decided to stay and listen to another performance instead of going to the hospital.

(Skip to 1:48)

You can argue that the only black woman to appear on Victorious that wasn't based completely on stereotypes, was Andre's grandmother. However, she's still clinically insane (they always had her screaming and acting like she didn't know where she was), at times violent, and used only for comedic effect. Even Helen from Drake & Josh you can argue, fit the stereotype of being a black woman who was very sassy and bossy.

Heck, even the black nurse from when Robbie was in the hospital was loud and aggressive.

Maybe I'm reading way too into things here, but bare in mind that it's debatable that Victorious was also a classist show. For instance, there was a constant reference to the "Ridgemount Girls" who went to another school in a lower-income area. Those girls were portrayed as nasty.

king of comedy · 12-21-2019, 05:57 PM

I hate these stereotypes. I love Black women but I hope I never meet anybody like those I just saw.

TMC · 08-12-2020, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by king of comedy

I hate these stereotypes. I love Black women but I hope I never meet anybody like those I just saw.

While I was bumping around YouTube, I came across this early 40 minute long video on the apparent racist undertones of Dan Schenider's Nickelodeon programs.

The timestamps of what is discussed at different points in the video are on the far right end.

racist comments said in his shows 4:50
the token black friend 6:32
black woman portrayal 9:44
black men portrayal 26:33
Asian and Latinx portrayal 35:35

king of comedy · 08-12-2020, 12:13 PM

I enjoyed the video. Everything about it was true. But not only was there racism but also sexism on both sexes. The girls were either bimbos, Cat from Victorious, nasty (I'm not going to say the b word but it is true) I'll say witches Sam from I Carly, treated like garbage, Victorias' sister from Victorious and the boys were were both stupid and wimps. Dan Scheniders' shows will not age well and will be forgotten.

12-15-2019, 05:05 AM	#1
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 124,493	Did Victorious set unfortunate implications surrounding certain sets of women I'll try to be careful when I frame this. I've been reading comments elsewhere online. And some people have formulated a theory that almost every single black girl or woman on the show is quite frankly, portrayed in an extremely negative and/or stereotypical light. To give you some insight, there's an episode where Andre (the only black character in the main cast) has a cousin who is hired to interrupt the director that screwed the kids over. The character just so happens to be very rude, loud, and violent. The episode culminated in her beating the director on live television. In another episode, Andre starts dating a black girl who just so happens to aggressive, mean, and bossy. Andre and Tori decide to exploit their relationship to perform in front of her famous father. The character was hit on the head by a sign and hospitalized, after which Andre smiled. Her own father decided to stay and listen to another performance instead of going to the hospital. (Skip to 1:48) You can argue that the only black woman to appear on Victorious that wasn't based completely on stereotypes, was Andre's grandmother. However, she's still clinically insane (they always had her screaming and acting like she didn't know where she was), at times violent, and used only for comedic effect. Even Helen from Drake & Josh you can argue, fit the stereotype of being a black woman who was very sassy and bossy. Heck, even the black nurse from when Robbie was in the hospital was loud and aggressive. Maybe I'm reading way too into things here, but bare in mind that it's debatable that Victorious was also a classist show. For instance, there was a constant reference to the "Ridgemount Girls" who went to another school in a lower-income area. Those girls were portrayed as nasty.
	Last edited by TMC; 08-12-2020 at 04:08 AM.

12-21-2019, 05:57 PM	#2
king of comedy Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Aug 31, 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,140	I hate these stereotypes. I love Black women but I hope I never meet anybody like those I just saw.

08-12-2020, 12:13 PM	#4
king of comedy Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Aug 31, 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,140	I enjoyed the video. Everything about it was true. But not only was there racism but also sexism on both sexes. The girls were either bimbos, Cat from Victorious, nasty (I'm not going to say the b word but it is true) I'll say witches Sam from I Carly, treated like garbage, Victorias' sister from Victorious and the boys were were both stupid and wimps. Dan Scheniders' shows will not age well and will be forgotten.