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We know some details about the Lost Girls' home lives, some more than others. Does anyone else find it fascinating to think about what their home lives were like away from Eastland?
Take my Cindy, for instance. Cindy, whose last name "Webster" is never even uttered in any episode. We know that her parents divorced, and her father married someone young enough to be his daughter. Now, if Sue Ann's mother is 41, we could assume most of the girls' parents are around 40. So if Cindy's father was around 40 in 1980, and he married a girl young enough to be his daughter, that means he could have married a girl around 20, just 6 or 7 years older than Cindy! Apparently he also married a woman roughly the size of his daughter, since Cindy infers she can wear her new stepmom's clothes.Also, I wonder what happened with Cindy and her mother. Interestingly, in "Rough Housing", we find out that her father was the to explain the facts of life (ha) to her, talking to her about the birds and the bees ("Well, my mom had my dad explain it to me."). This has never been brought up here before, but I find Cindy's dad's awkward birds and bees talk hilarious: "He told me that sex was like a big garden, and each person's like a flower. And when you love someone, you have to put fertilizer on them!" I also love Cindy's incredulous expression and emphasis on that last phrase! ![]() That's fascinating to me that a mother would have her husband have the sex talk with his daughter instead of having a "woman-to-woman" (or, "girl") talk with her herself. I wonder why the former Mrs. Webster "had" her husband explain the birds and bees to her daughter? Was she extremely shy of the subject? Was she overwhelmed with being busy in her life? Was she not very good with parenting? And did she realize what a terrible mistake that was with his bad allegory? lol |
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Forgot about Nancy O.
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(I look forward to future breakdowns of other Lost Girls' family lives, which I know are coming). I have long suspected that Cindy's family lived too far away for them to visit frequently, which would explain why we never saw them visit. While Molly, Natalie, Jo, and Blair's parents lived in NYC, it seems Cindy didn't have relatives nearby, to come visit her. However, I realize this is a bit more speculative than anything you've mentioned, so it could certainly be debated. Cindy makes a comment about "making someone a great brother", which to me always seemed to mean she didn't have siblings: why else would she not mention a sibling, and instead say "someone"? But that's my interpretation. I really wish we'd gotten to know Cindy more. There were many interesting facets of her character left to explore, including her home life, but unfortunately, we never got to see them. |
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(even if one of those sisters was wicked )Retro, I'm surprised you haven't commented on Cindy's mother having her husband explain sex to their daughter. That seems odd in 2020, much less in 1979! lol And with the phrase "put fertilizer on them", it even sounds risque! (at least to me, lol)
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She did seem to be a bit overwhelmed, or maybe socially awkward, in RH. I could definitely see what you're saying. Quote:
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![]() Well, of all the Lost Girls---indeed, of all the girls in season 1 period---it can perhaps be said we know of Molly's home life the most, at least as far as familial interaction. This is because not only does her sole starring episode feature a parent of hers, it also features said parent's new romantic interest, who could for all we know have become Molly's stepmother in season 2. So we get to meet a relative of hers and a potential future relative. So we know Molly is the daughter of an orthodontist, though we don't know anything of her mother's profession. Seeing what a staunch activist and feminist Molly is, could Molly's mother have been at the forefront of the '70s women's movement? Was she too aggressive or political which eventually caused the problems in her marriage? Or perhaps she was very mousy and non-involved in life, which spurred Molly on to prove she could do and be anything and deserved respect as a woman? Though "Judy Parker" in the original script for MH certainly seemed to be enough of her own person, but not overbearing. We do learn that she does her own share of fighting and silent "smile-fighting" with Jeff. We also learn, in a rather telling line, that she and Angela are "friends---well, almost." Jeff is quick to add that caveat at the end, lol. This tells me the 2 ladies can be and are civil to one another in each other's company, but that's pretty much it. Of course, part of the fun of that line is it's open to viewer interpretation. We also know Molly chews on pencils when she's upset, so we can only imagine the number of No. 2s she gnawed away when living at home with fighting parents! She probably chewed more wood than a beaver! (a trait that is too bad wasn't showcased in "Molly's Holiday", but I believe that episode was taped before "Running", with the pencil revelation, was)Of course, we learn generously of Molly's father since he's a supporting player in her episode. We see what a nice man and loving father he is, although we know he does his own share of fighting and passive-aggressive "smile-fighting". We also know he drives a Dodge Dart and dresses "like a dentist" lol. Now, interestingly, we learn a very big aspect of Molly's home life not on "The Facts of Life", but on its parent show "Diff'rent Strokes"---Molly has a brother!! I believe they say he's her little brother, but I may be just assuming that. Anyway, if you want to count DS as being "canon" with the Eastland universe, Molly is a sister, not an only child. Yet "Molly's Holiday" certainly has that "only child" feel to it, and any "brother" is never mentioned or even alluded to at all. If you do consider him canon, perhaps her brother got a lot of attention in the family---maybe he was a natural athlete or math genius or something---and that could have spurred Molly's equality/respect activism. It's also interesting in that DS episode to realize that Molly Lives somewhere very near the Drummonds' building in that Park Avenue area; in about half an episode's time or so the girls have enough time to go to Molly's house and return again! (must have been light traffic that day, lol) Living so very close to Kimberly, I wonder if they visited each other's homes much? This DS episode also re-addresses a characteristic of Cindy---her insecurity. Of all the girls at the slumber party, we're told it's Cindy who was "afraid" that all the girls would catch whatever her brother had ("only-exists-in-1-episode-off-screen-itis"? lol). Here we have Cindy who puts on a tough front in RH only to show how vulnerable she really is, and we proudly see her grow in her personal confidence during her first year at Eastland, only to be reminded here she can still be prone to anxiety and insecurity. This could have opened SO many story line possibilities in future seasons at Eastland for Cindy in her athletics, and her self-esteem, her familial and romantic relationships, and maybe even certain schoolwork. I would think they'd make Natalie the one afraid of catching what Molly's brother had, as Nat, young as she was, was sometimes the concerned type taking the "mom role" in similar instances. If it weren't for "Molly's Holiday" and this 1 line on DS, we'd know hardly anything at all about the Parker household! |
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You were very thorough, and I can only add a few things. It seems as though Molly was closer to her mom than her dad, in later years, judging by what The Girls said about her in "The Little Chill": it was her mom who was answering questions on the phone. I have definitely always considered Lost Girls lore on DS to be canon on FOL. The only time I wouldn't is if it were flatly contradicted by something stated on FOL. Thus I consider Mr. Crocker just as canon as Mr. Bradley. |
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I too consider Mr. Crocker canon. Molly's brother though, is a tougher choice for me. I would have expected one mention of him in passing in "Molly's Holiday" since it's the breakup of the family---BUT, we don't know when those two scripts were written, therefore Molly's brother could have been penned into "The Slumber Party" after MH had already been written. |
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Nancy...Nancy, Nancy, Nancy...
Oh Nancy O., your home life is such a mystery to fans. If you count "The Girls' School" as canon (which I believe most season 1 fans do), we can assume that Nancy came from probably an upper middle class family, for when her father Mr. Olson loses his job, the family can't afford to keep her at Eastland, poor dear. Luckily, Mrs. Garrett manipulates the men involved and engineers a scholarship for Nancy "in dramatic arts" to keep her at school with her friends (oh yeah, and with her studies too, lol). We assume that Nancy's father found work again, though we're never told any more on that. We do however know for a fact that Nancy's father is strictly against his 15-year-old daughter having sex. ![]() Nancy may also have siblings, though this isn't entirely clear. In "The Return of Mr. Garrett" her excuse for draining more money out of her school bank account is that she has to buy her brother a birthday present. When Mr. Bradley questions her about her having already bought presents for a brother and a sister, Nancy claims that "This is for another brother." Does Nancy have two brothers? Does Nancy have one brother? Does Nancy have a sister? Does Nancy have any siblings? You would think with as much as Mr. Bradley is around that hey may have an insight into the home lives of the girls, so maybe there's a soft of confirmation when he says "You sent your brother a gift yesterday, Nancy. And your sister the day before." Or, maybe he has no clue about her home life and just believed her those last two days. After all, he'd never seen Blair's mother before "Like Mother, Like Daughter". It seems it's all up to individual viewer interpretation to decide what siblings Nancy has, if any at all. I believe that's about all we know or can glean of Nancy's home life. One other thought though: We know Nancy can have self-esteem issues, like when she's excluded from "The Group", but apparently she has a pretty healthy body image of herself. This can be seen when she's confident about being in a pair of extremely tight jeans for Roger, and when she holds up the "Switched-On Sizzlers" up to her, she brims with confidence as she says, "I could make history in this baby!" So she possibly had a home life where her parents reinforced a positive self-image. After all, it takes a confident person to shove ice down blouses and threaten people with globe-swallowing.
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Like you, I'm not sure what we can glean from Nancy's mentions of brothers and sisters: it's clear she and the other girls aren't being honest, so we can't consider those siblings canon, until we get more info. The only other clue we have is her family tree in "Adoption", which seems to indicate she's an only child. |
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I noticed with Tootie's family that her mother does look like her mother in later seasons, but her father's picture looks nothing like the actor that played her father a few episodes earlier. I wonder if the guy in that picture was Kim Field's real life father.
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