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Bachu · 06-09-2019, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevea

In The Bradys 1st episode, Florence sings a familiar song at Bobby's wedding. I don't remember the title but I think it's a Streisand song. I'd be curious to know if CBS cuts the song on the DVDs.

My set is due to arrive next Friday as it working its way from the US of A to Great Britain. If no one else lets you know, I'll try to as I will be watching Brides and the Bradys. If, as I believe, that this set is just a repackage with no new remastering of anything previously released I doubt I will even watch anything else. Well, perhaps the night of the 50th anniversary I might start a rewatch of Bunch with a double bill every week for about 69 weeks.

Does anyone have any contact email addresses for CBS who are releasing the show on dvd? i would like to write them and give them a piece of my mind for what a shoddy effort they made with the show for the 50th but until I have the set myself I won't be able to see if the same issues are still present from when it was released first time round.

stevea · 06-09-2019, 01:19 PM

CBS DVD cuts virtually any song. So I'd bet this one is, too. Thanks for checking, when you get it.

I'd also like a way to communicate with CBS DVD.

Bachu · 06-13-2019, 01:21 PM

So, my set arrived today. Impressions.

Despite the fact that this was being shipped to Great Britain it came in a jiffy bag so the sleeve that covers the plastic casing was a tad dented on the corners and at least one tiny bit of plastic in the set had broken.

The sleeve is still too garish IMO.

The plastic casing is rubbish. 3 disks stacked on top of each other and those 3 disks are stacked on another 3 disks!

I would say that there is no remastering on this set for Bunch. Menus and trailers are the same as the the original release about 10 years ago. Surely MyGyver is no longer NEW to dvd!!!

The pilot and Greg Gets Grounded are still missing the tag. The 3 parters are still missing the grid before the tag. Episodes are not subittled.

The only improvement these disks have is that the episode titles are written on the disks for Bunch and Kids.

All 10 episodes of Brides are on one disk. Episode titles are not written on the disks which is odd as they are brand new to dvd. Episodes 1-4 are present in the TVM format. The song mentioned is cut. Picture quality is poor IMO. It is also poor for the rest of the sitcom episodes. For some reason a modern Paramount logo bookends the start and end of these episodes or at least the couple I looked at. There is one extra in the form of material for a sitcom about the movers. What I quickly looked at suggests most of it came from the actual Brides episode. All episodes of Brides appear to be subtitled.

Did the first two episodes of The Bradys air as a feature length one? That is how they are presented here. All episodes appear to be subittled. Ad break bumpers tend to appear at the mid point of the episodes. Picture quality looks a bit like vhs and not much better. Next time trailers are present as are recaps on some episodes. Perhaps they were never there on all of them? All three episodes are split over two disks. Episode titles do not appear on the disks. The laugh track is present on the clips I looked at. The song that Florence sings at the wedding just after the minister arrives is the same as the version I have that I recorded from Sky which was the movie length version so unless that one was cut or there is another song I am guessing a song wasn't cut here but no promises. I think I noticed a variation in the theme music but the vocal one that was only on the feature length versions did not jump out at me so I am guessing it is not present even as an extra.

The Brady Bunch Movie - when I popped the disk in, it looked just the same as the original dvd so i would say it is.

I have not checked the Kids disks or the rest of the movies but I am guessing they are carbon copies of what came before.

If you are a big fan of the show and have never bought it on dvd before this is a bargin for everything that you get. If, like me, you own all the other stuff released all you get here that is new to dvd is Brides and Bradys which will porbably be released in a year of two as separate releases.

So, they put the show out for it's 50th with no remastering of the original episodes from the episodes I checked to see if missing stuff was put back. Brides and Bradys appear to have had no remastering either. It really is a shoddy release. Episodes remastered from HD prints can look really quite stunning even when presented on SD disks and watched through a blu ray player but we are not even given that here. If they couldn't pull out all the stops for the 50th set I doubt they ever will. To not even present Brides and Bradys in a remastered format is also really poor. I honestly do not get how a show as popular and as famous as this (I mean, what other show had the house used for establishing shots gutted so the inside matches the outside?) got such poor treatment.

stevea · 06-13-2019, 01:45 PM

The first episode of the Bradys was 2 hours. It ended with Bobby's wedding. The song Florence sang was some (I think) Barbra Streisand song that is quite familiar, but I don't remember the name. The version I have is the one that ran on CBS in 2/1990, commercials and all.

It would amaze me if CBS actually licensed this song. Maybe they blew the budget on that and cut corners on the mastering.

There is another post about those multi-part episodes and the grids. According to that post the grids were present on 1970s-era syndication films (probably 16mm). If anyone has these on Beta tape/sourced from Beta tape (I say Beta because it sounds like it's pre-VHS era) I'd be open to a Bradys trade! If they were on syndication episodes CBS should have been able to find them for the original release years ago.

Bachu · 06-13-2019, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevea

The first episode of the Bradys was 2 hours. It ended with Bobby's wedding. The song Florence sang was some (I think) Barbra Streisand song that is quite familiar, but I don't remember the name. The version I have is the one that ran on CBS in 2/1990, commercials and all.

It would amaze me if CBS actually licensed this song. Maybe they blew the budget on that and cut corners on the mastering.

There is another post about those multi-part episodes and the grids. According to that post the grids were present on 1970s-era syndication films (probably 16mm). If anyone has these on Beta tape/sourced from Beta tape (I say Beta because it sounds like it's pre-VHS era) I'd be open to a Bradys trade! If they were on syndication episodes CBS should have been able to find them for the original release years ago.

If you can tell me where the song is on the Bradys I can check for you but as I said, the song on the dvd is the same as the one I recorded off the TV but that could have been cut.

I have all but 1 of the missing grids. i will try and put them together and upload to Youtube over the weekend.

Bachu · 06-13-2019, 04:52 PM

https://youtu.be/aihfHUlJAtM

1960'sTVfan · 06-13-2019, 05:17 PM

Thanks to Bachu for the review of this new DVD set. Really a shame that no effort was made to correct the few issues on the original DVD season sets. Sounds like this new DVD set was put together as a quick cash grab to take advantage of the series 50th anniversary. I'll just pass on this new DVD set and keep the original season sets.

Regarding the original five season series, as far as I can tell, this is what's missing on the DVD's:

Season 1:
The pilot episode "The Honeymoon" is missing the tag scene.

Season 3:
The three "Grand Canyon" episodes don't have the grids/fill in squares prior to the tag scenes.

Season 4:
The three "Hawaii" episodes don't have the grids/fill in squares prior to the tag scenes.
Also, "Pass The Tabu" has a scene missing, roughly 20-30 seconds is cut from the episode.
"Love And The Older Man" doesn't have the grids/fill in squares prior to the tag scene.
"Greg Gets Grounded" is missing the tag scene.

These are the only edits that I'm aware of. As far as I know, the other episodes are complete.

stevea · 06-13-2019, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bachu

Youtube

Wow...I'm sure it would have been near impossible for them to find these...

Bachu · 06-14-2019, 03:15 PM

When Bunch airs in America, are the grids always removed?

The ones I posted were from Sky TV showings at the start of the 90s so they exisit here even if the episodes are poor quality prints. Perhaps 16mm rather than 35mm.

I forgot about LATOM. My off air copy is missing that one as well though whereas the dvd lets some music play before cutting, my off air mutes the music before cutting so the cut is less obvious.

I have all my off air copies but never got round to comparing the missed dialogue scene in Pass The Tabu.

stevea · 06-14-2019, 03:34 PM

In that case maybe the LATOM one is film damage. I didn't look up the epsidoe but my thought is that's the one where Marcia swoons over the dentist.

But as for the multi-part episodes, now I'm wondering whether the grids were shown on syndication episodes before the DVD sets. MeTV uses the newer syndication episodes (which I assume were made when the DVDs were mastered), so they're missing on current showings. Right now BB isn't on cable at all, I don't think, so there's no other source to compare to.

In any case I'd really like to trade for those. Then I could edit and make complete episodes.

I'm gonna put out a few feelers to see if anyone has BB from N@N or TV Land.

Bachu · 06-14-2019, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevea

In any case I'd really like to trade for those. Then I could edit and make complete episodes.

Can you not use the clips I put on youtube?

stevea · 06-14-2019, 03:50 PM

I wouldn't have a clue on how to do that. But I asked a trading parter, to see if she has them from any other source.

MA · 06-14-2019, 03:55 PM

I wonder if there were any changes made to The Brady Bunch when the show aired on N@N or TV Land.

stevea · 06-14-2019, 04:00 PM

Right. Suddenly I want to see those episodes from either Nick or TV Land. I wish BB was still on Hallmark or whatever that other cable channel is that had it for awhile.

It just amazes me how so many DVD sets have flaws of one kind or another. And with BB, they recycle them with the same flaws.

MA · 06-14-2019, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevea

Right. Suddenly I want to see those episodes from either Nick or TV Land. I wish BB was still on Hallmark or whatever that other cable channel is that had it for awhile.

It just amazes me how so many DVD sets have flaws of one kind or another. And with BB, they recycle them with the same flaws.

I believe that it was Hallmark, yes.

06-13-2019, 05:17 PM	#67
1960'sTVfan Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 30, 2009 Posts: 6,070	Thanks to Bachu for the review of this new DVD set. Really a shame that no effort was made to correct the few issues on the original DVD season sets. Sounds like this new DVD set was put together as a quick cash grab to take advantage of the series 50th anniversary. I'll just pass on this new DVD set and keep the original season sets. Regarding the original five season series, as far as I can tell, this is what's missing on the DVD's: Season 1: The pilot episode "The Honeymoon" is missing the tag scene. Season 3: The three "Grand Canyon" episodes don't have the grids/fill in squares prior to the tag scenes. Season 4: The three "Hawaii" episodes don't have the grids/fill in squares prior to the tag scenes. Also, "Pass The Tabu" has a scene missing, roughly 20-30 seconds is cut from the episode. "Love And The Older Man" doesn't have the grids/fill in squares prior to the tag scene. "Greg Gets Grounded" is missing the tag scene. These are the only edits that I'm aware of. As far as I know, the other episodes are complete.
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06-14-2019, 03:55 PM	#73
MA Member Moderator Forum Idol Join Date: May 20, 2017 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 127,226	I wonder if there were any changes made to The Brady Bunch when the show aired on N@N or TV Land.
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06-09-2019, 01:19 PM	#62
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,418	CBS DVD cuts virtually any song. So I'd bet this one is, too. Thanks for checking, when you get it. I'd also like a way to communicate with CBS DVD.

06-13-2019, 01:21 PM	#63
Bachu Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 809	So, my set arrived today. Impressions. Despite the fact that this was being shipped to Great Britain it came in a jiffy bag so the sleeve that covers the plastic casing was a tad dented on the corners and at least one tiny bit of plastic in the set had broken. The sleeve is still too garish IMO. The plastic casing is rubbish. 3 disks stacked on top of each other and those 3 disks are stacked on another 3 disks! I would say that there is no remastering on this set for Bunch. Menus and trailers are the same as the the original release about 10 years ago. Surely MyGyver is no longer NEW to dvd!!! The pilot and Greg Gets Grounded are still missing the tag. The 3 parters are still missing the grid before the tag. Episodes are not subittled. The only improvement these disks have is that the episode titles are written on the disks for Bunch and Kids. All 10 episodes of Brides are on one disk. Episode titles are not written on the disks which is odd as they are brand new to dvd. Episodes 1-4 are present in the TVM format. The song mentioned is cut. Picture quality is poor IMO. It is also poor for the rest of the sitcom episodes. For some reason a modern Paramount logo bookends the start and end of these episodes or at least the couple I looked at. There is one extra in the form of material for a sitcom about the movers. What I quickly looked at suggests most of it came from the actual Brides episode. All episodes of Brides appear to be subtitled. Did the first two episodes of The Bradys air as a feature length one? That is how they are presented here. All episodes appear to be subittled. Ad break bumpers tend to appear at the mid point of the episodes. Picture quality looks a bit like vhs and not much better. Next time trailers are present as are recaps on some episodes. Perhaps they were never there on all of them? All three episodes are split over two disks. Episode titles do not appear on the disks. The laugh track is present on the clips I looked at. The song that Florence sings at the wedding just after the minister arrives is the same as the version I have that I recorded from Sky which was the movie length version so unless that one was cut or there is another song I am guessing a song wasn't cut here but no promises. I think I noticed a variation in the theme music but the vocal one that was only on the feature length versions did not jump out at me so I am guessing it is not present even as an extra. The Brady Bunch Movie - when I popped the disk in, it looked just the same as the original dvd so i would say it is. I have not checked the Kids disks or the rest of the movies but I am guessing they are carbon copies of what came before. If you are a big fan of the show and have never bought it on dvd before this is a bargin for everything that you get. If, like me, you own all the other stuff released all you get here that is new to dvd is Brides and Bradys which will porbably be released in a year of two as separate releases. So, they put the show out for it's 50th with no remastering of the original episodes from the episodes I checked to see if missing stuff was put back. Brides and Bradys appear to have had no remastering either. It really is a shoddy release. Episodes remastered from HD prints can look really quite stunning even when presented on SD disks and watched through a blu ray player but we are not even given that here. If they couldn't pull out all the stops for the 50th set I doubt they ever will. To not even present Brides and Bradys in a remastered format is also really poor. I honestly do not get how a show as popular and as famous as this (I mean, what other show had the house used for establishing shots gutted so the inside matches the outside?) got such poor treatment.

06-13-2019, 01:45 PM	#64
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,418	The first episode of the Bradys was 2 hours. It ended with Bobby's wedding. The song Florence sang was some (I think) Barbra Streisand song that is quite familiar, but I don't remember the name. The version I have is the one that ran on CBS in 2/1990, commercials and all. It would amaze me if CBS actually licensed this song. Maybe they blew the budget on that and cut corners on the mastering. There is another post about those multi-part episodes and the grids. According to that post the grids were present on 1970s-era syndication films (probably 16mm). If anyone has these on Beta tape/sourced from Beta tape (I say Beta because it sounds like it's pre-VHS era) I'd be open to a Bradys trade! If they were on syndication episodes CBS should have been able to find them for the original release years ago.

06-13-2019, 04:52 PM	#66
Bachu Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 809	https://youtu.be/aihfHUlJAtM

06-14-2019, 03:15 PM	#69
Bachu Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 809	When Bunch airs in America, are the grids always removed? The ones I posted were from Sky TV showings at the start of the 90s so they exisit here even if the episodes are poor quality prints. Perhaps 16mm rather than 35mm. I forgot about LATOM. My off air copy is missing that one as well though whereas the dvd lets some music play before cutting, my off air mutes the music before cutting so the cut is less obvious. I have all my off air copies but never got round to comparing the missed dialogue scene in Pass The Tabu.

06-14-2019, 03:34 PM	#70
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,418	In that case maybe the LATOM one is film damage. I didn't look up the epsidoe but my thought is that's the one where Marcia swoons over the dentist. But as for the multi-part episodes, now I'm wondering whether the grids were shown on syndication episodes before the DVD sets. MeTV uses the newer syndication episodes (which I assume were made when the DVDs were mastered), so they're missing on current showings. Right now BB isn't on cable at all, I don't think, so there's no other source to compare to. In any case I'd really like to trade for those. Then I could edit and make complete episodes. I'm gonna put out a few feelers to see if anyone has BB from N@N or TV Land.

06-14-2019, 03:50 PM	#72
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,418	I wouldn't have a clue on how to do that. But I asked a trading parter, to see if she has them from any other source.

06-14-2019, 04:00 PM	#74
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,418	Right. Suddenly I want to see those episodes from either Nick or TV Land. I wish BB was still on Hallmark or whatever that other cable channel is that had it for awhile. It just amazes me how so many DVD sets have flaws of one kind or another. And with BB, they recycle them with the same flaws.