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stevea · 03-29-2019, 01:45 PM

I really doubt the original negatives are gone. They may be hard to find, I'll grant. At the least, if the grids from the trip episodes are still missing, with modern technology, they could probably be recreated with footage from other episodes. I've seen what wizards on Youtube do to recreate openings/credits of old cartoons (the originals of which have been altered over the years)--it's amazing.

It amazes me, when shows were generally mastered to videotape (in the 90s??), that full, unedited "safety" copies were not made. At that time they probably used 35mm prints as the source, since videotape syndication episodes have better quality than 16mm films that were shipped around to stations years ago.

Bachu · 03-29-2019, 02:17 PM

As I understand it, the bits they wanted were transferred from film to tape to make the editing process quicker and easier. Back then, who knew HD was 20 years in the future. Just shows, you should never cut corners.

It is imagine to hard that a show like this had the negatives lost or junked but stranger things have happened. I would be so happy just to have new prints made from the negatives because old shows recorded on 35mm film can look stunning in SD.

In the late 80s/early 90s a station in Britain called Sky One screened TBB. Straight after they screened TBBrides and the The Bradys all showed up on the Sky Movie channels. They must have bought a job lot. The Brady Brides was 10 episodes starting with syndicated half hour versions of the TVM. I am sure that is what we will get here. I just hope they do not trim the opening credits at the end like in this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7uEwvt5rrw

The episodes I have, after the fade to black, the theme continues for a few more seconds.

Bachu · 03-29-2019, 02:19 PM

Anyone know when the set is due to be released?

stevea · 03-29-2019, 03:12 PM

Yes, you can tell when they've developed new prints from the original negatives; at least, I think I can. My Three Sons, seasons 1 and 2, look absolutely wonderful, as does Hazel Season 1, and most of Leave It To Beaver. It's probably cheaper to do black and white, because they don't have to do color correction.

Bachu · 03-30-2019, 08:57 AM

Has anyone got all the missing 'grids' from the 3 part episodes? i have 5 that I recorded from Sky almost 20 years ago now. Also, regarding the missing tag from Greg Gets Grounded; did it ever have one. The way the episode plays, nothing feels like it is missing though the episode is about 20-30 seconds shorter than the others.

I probably did many years ago but I feel I need to dig out my off air copy. When Sky screened the show, only a small handful of episodes were cut though a lot had the grids cut off though the tags were present.

Did the first episode ever have a tag? Can anyone say what the scene was? Same for Greg gets Grounded.

Impressions · 03-30-2019, 10:56 AM

This all feels like a rush job to get it all out on DVD. Hopefully we get extras.

stevea · 03-30-2019, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bachu

Has anyone got all the missing 'grids' from the 3 part episodes? i have 5 that I recorded from Sky almost 20 years ago now. Also, regarding the missing tag from Greg Gets Grounded; did it ever have one. The way the episode plays, nothing feels like it is missing though the episode is about 20-30 seconds shorter than the others.

I probably did many years ago but I feel I need to dig out my off air copy. When Sky screened the show, only a small handful of episodes were cut though a lot had the grids cut off though the tags were present.

Did the first episode ever have a tag? Can anyone say what the scene was? Same for Greg gets Grounded.

No, but if they aired someplace, the grids should have been found for the DVD. It seems nobody goes the extra mile anymore. I don't know why, but those missing grids really bug me.

Bachu · 03-30-2019, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Impressions

This all feels like a rush job to get it all out on DVD. Hopefully we get extras.

It does to me as well. I think it is released in June. I hope there will be extras but what I have read suggests not so far. It is the 50th. They should pull out all the stops.

The only things I do not have official copies off is TBBrides and The Bradys. Everything else on that set is a duplication. Remastered video would make it worthwhile.

Bachu · 03-30-2019, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stevea

I don't know why, but those missing grids really bug me.

Me too! The episodes suffer as a result as the natural flow of those parts of the episodes is spoilt as a result, especially for part one of the Hawaii episodes with the 'wipeout'.

TeeVeeCloset · 04-01-2019, 09:18 AM

I am very weary of this set, could be edits somewhere, there is nothing like your own original self recorded master, which is what i did recording the entire one time CBS broadcasts with commericlas of "The Bradys" all those years ago in SP speed and they transferred to DVD beautiful, most likely will stay with those as I just don't trust an official release not to be missing something.

Screwy Wabbit · 04-01-2019, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeeVeeCloset

I am very weary of this set, could be edits somewhere, there is nothing like your own original self recorded master, which is what i did recording the entire one time CBS broadcasts with commericlas of "The Bradys" all those years ago in SP speed and they transferred to DVD beautiful, most likely will stay with those as I just don't trust an official release not to be missing something.

Wish I could see those. While studio-released DVDs have better picture quality, there's something special about seeing old shows with the original commercial breaks intact. Sure, many of the old commercials are on YouTube nowadays, but you just don't know which commercials were broadcast with which episode. It would be great to see an early 1970s vintage BB episode with all the commercials intact.

Now if they really wanted to satisfy the completists, they would include some of the original ABC network promos and maybe even The World of Sid and Marty Krofft at the Hollywood Bowl.

Bachu · 04-04-2019, 05:40 PM

'The Brady-est Collection: THE BRADY BUNCH: 50TH ANNIVERSARY TV & MOVIE COLLECTION
Pre-Order thru April 23rd - (Release date June 4th)
https://www.target.com/p/brady-bunch...;/-/A-54480698

The collection breakdown and special features is as follows:
“The Brady Bunch: The Complete Series”
Special Features: Commentary by Sherwood Schwartz in “The Honeymoon”; Commentary by Barry Williams, Christopher Knight and Susan Olsen in “A Camping We Will Go” and “The Hero”

“The Brady Kids: The Complete Animated Series”: All 22 episodes. Special Features: Episodic Promos

"The Brady Brides”: All 10 episodes

"A Very Brady Christmas"

"The Bradys”: All 6 hours

“The Brady Bunch,” “The Brady Kids: The Complete Animated Series,” “The Bradys,” “The Brady
Brides” and A Very Brady Christmas are presented in full screen format with English Mono audio
(“The Bradys” in English Stereo) and English SDH subtitles (excluding “The Brady Bunch”)
-----------------------------------------------
The Brady Bunch Movie
A Very Brady Sequel
The Brady Bunch in the White House
Growing Up Brady

The Brady Bunch Movie and A Very Brady Sequel arrive in widescreen format with English 5.1 Dolby
Digital, English 2.0 Dolby Digital and French 2.0 Dolby Digital audio with English subtitles.
Additional Brady movies, including The Brady Bunch in the White House and Growing Up Brady,
are presented in full screen format with Dolby Digital and English Stereo audio.'

Looks like a repackage job. No new extras. No deleted scenes for the movies. No missing commentary for season 2 episodes that i read on this board that were recorded. The show and the fans deserve better.

MA · 04-04-2019, 05:45 PM

So it’s all still going to be the same and nothing new?

Bachu · 04-04-2019, 06:01 PM

Looks like it. The Bradys and Brides are new but they could have released them separate which no doubt they will do in about 5 years. 10 episode version of The Brady Brides so not the TVM version. The Bradys says all 6 hours. i wonder if that means all 6 episodes rather than all three 2 hour movie versions? Didn't one of the movie versions get released with the Shag Pile carpet complete series release?

MA · 04-04-2019, 06:10 PM

They should’ve included The Brady Bunch Variety Hour though.

04-01-2019, 09:18 AM	#25
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04-04-2019, 05:45 PM	#28
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03-29-2019, 01:45 PM	#16
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,457	I really doubt the original negatives are gone. They may be hard to find, I'll grant. At the least, if the grids from the trip episodes are still missing, with modern technology, they could probably be recreated with footage from other episodes. I've seen what wizards on Youtube do to recreate openings/credits of old cartoons (the originals of which have been altered over the years)--it's amazing. It amazes me, when shows were generally mastered to videotape (in the 90s??), that full, unedited "safety" copies were not made. At that time they probably used 35mm prints as the source, since videotape syndication episodes have better quality than 16mm films that were shipped around to stations years ago.

03-29-2019, 02:17 PM	#17
Bachu Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 809	As I understand it, the bits they wanted were transferred from film to tape to make the editing process quicker and easier. Back then, who knew HD was 20 years in the future. Just shows, you should never cut corners. It is imagine to hard that a show like this had the negatives lost or junked but stranger things have happened. I would be so happy just to have new prints made from the negatives because old shows recorded on 35mm film can look stunning in SD. In the late 80s/early 90s a station in Britain called Sky One screened TBB. Straight after they screened TBBrides and the The Bradys all showed up on the Sky Movie channels. They must have bought a job lot. The Brady Brides was 10 episodes starting with syndicated half hour versions of the TVM. I am sure that is what we will get here. I just hope they do not trim the opening credits at the end like in this clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7uEwvt5rrw The episodes I have, after the fade to black, the theme continues for a few more seconds.

03-29-2019, 02:19 PM	#18
Bachu Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 809	Anyone know when the set is due to be released?

03-29-2019, 03:12 PM	#19
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,457	Yes, you can tell when they've developed new prints from the original negatives; at least, I think I can. My Three Sons, seasons 1 and 2, look absolutely wonderful, as does Hazel Season 1, and most of Leave It To Beaver. It's probably cheaper to do black and white, because they don't have to do color correction.

03-30-2019, 08:57 AM	#20
Bachu Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 809	Has anyone got all the missing 'grids' from the 3 part episodes? i have 5 that I recorded from Sky almost 20 years ago now. Also, regarding the missing tag from Greg Gets Grounded; did it ever have one. The way the episode plays, nothing feels like it is missing though the episode is about 20-30 seconds shorter than the others. I probably did many years ago but I feel I need to dig out my off air copy. When Sky screened the show, only a small handful of episodes were cut though a lot had the grids cut off though the tags were present. Did the first episode ever have a tag? Can anyone say what the scene was? Same for Greg gets Grounded.

03-30-2019, 10:56 AM	#21
Impressions She died the way she lived Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 08, 2002 Posts: 4,640	This all feels like a rush job to get it all out on DVD. Hopefully we get extras.

04-04-2019, 05:40 PM	#27
Bachu Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 809	'The Brady-est Collection: THE BRADY BUNCH: 50TH ANNIVERSARY TV & MOVIE COLLECTION Pre-Order thru April 23rd - (Release date June 4th) https://www.target.com/p/brady-bunch...;/-/A-54480698 The collection breakdown and special features is as follows: “The Brady Bunch: The Complete Series” Special Features: Commentary by Sherwood Schwartz in “The Honeymoon”; Commentary by Barry Williams, Christopher Knight and Susan Olsen in “A Camping We Will Go” and “The Hero” “The Brady Kids: The Complete Animated Series”: All 22 episodes. Special Features: Episodic Promos "The Brady Brides”: All 10 episodes "A Very Brady Christmas" "The Bradys”: All 6 hours “The Brady Bunch,” “The Brady Kids: The Complete Animated Series,” “The Bradys,” “The Brady Brides” and A Very Brady Christmas are presented in full screen format with English Mono audio (“The Bradys” in English Stereo) and English SDH subtitles (excluding “The Brady Bunch”) ----------------------------------------------- The Brady Bunch Movie A Very Brady Sequel The Brady Bunch in the White House Growing Up Brady The Brady Bunch Movie and A Very Brady Sequel arrive in widescreen format with English 5.1 Dolby Digital, English 2.0 Dolby Digital and French 2.0 Dolby Digital audio with English subtitles. Additional Brady movies, including The Brady Bunch in the White House and Growing Up Brady, are presented in full screen format with Dolby Digital and English Stereo audio.' Looks like a repackage job. No new extras. No deleted scenes for the movies. No missing commentary for season 2 episodes that i read on this board that were recorded. The show and the fans deserve better.

04-04-2019, 06:01 PM	#29
Bachu Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 809	Looks like it. The Bradys and Brides are new but they could have released them separate which no doubt they will do in about 5 years. 10 episode version of The Brady Brides so not the TVM version. The Bradys says all 6 hours. i wonder if that means all 6 episodes rather than all three 2 hour movie versions? Didn't one of the movie versions get released with the Shag Pile carpet complete series release?

04-04-2019, 06:10 PM	#30
MA Member Moderator Forum Idol Join Date: May 20, 2017 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 127,259	They should’ve included The Brady Bunch Variety Hour though.