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TMC · 06-21-2018, 08:49 PM

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“Roseanne Barr will have no financial or creative involvement in the new series,” ABC said in announcing its 10-episode straight-to-series order for The Conners spinoff, premiering this fall and starring Sara Gilbert, John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf, Lecy Goranson and Michael Fishman. Executive producer Tom Werner and showrunner Bruce Helford will also be back. ABC didn't announce how the spinoff would move forward without Roseanne Conner, but a description hinted that she might be killed off. “After a sudden turn of events, the Conners are forced to face the daily struggles of life in Lanford in a way they never have before," ABC said in its announcement. "This iconic family — Dan, Jackie, Darlene, Becky and D.J. — grapples with parenthood, dating, an unexpected pregnancy, financial pressures, aging and in-laws in working-class America. Through it all, the fights, the coupon cutting, the hand-me-downs, the breakdowns – with love, humor and perseverance, the family prevails.” ABC's announcement included a statement from Barr herself: “I regret the circumstances that have caused me to be removed from Roseanne," Barr said. "I agreed to the settlement in order that 200 jobs of beloved cast and crew could be saved, and I wish the best for everyone involved." ALSO: Roseanne Barr is expected to retain all rights to her Roseanne Conner character, including for future spinoffs or reboots beyond The Conners.

Impressions · 06-21-2018, 10:12 PM

Best. News. Ever.

RetroGuy2000 · 06-21-2018, 10:42 PM

I hope they don't kill off Roseanne Conner. That would seem short-sighted in 2048, during the inevitable re-re-reunion.

Mr. Television · 06-22-2018, 12:10 AM

This has disaster written all over it.

MA · 06-22-2018, 05:55 AM

I smell a flop coming.

tlc38tlc38 · 06-22-2018, 08:46 AM

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I hope they don't kill off Roseanne Conner. That would seem short-sighted in 2048, during the inevitable re-re-reunion.

Exactly. She will be back eventually because after so many years people forget about things.

I'm not a fan of this idea. They should just let it go.

RetroGuy2000 · 06-22-2018, 11:15 AM

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Exactly. She will be back eventually because after so many years people forget about things.

They definitely do. Remember when Zsa Zsa Gabor slapped that cop? There was a huge backlash. And yet, she found plenty of work after that.

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I'm not a fan of this idea. They should just let it go.

I will definitely watch. I liked the original show, I liked the return, and I will definitely give the spin-off a try.

cfr1970 · 06-22-2018, 11:26 AM

I won't watch and will laugh when it's cancelled. That Sara Gilbert woman is a nasty piece of work. Stabbed Roseanne right between the shoulder blades.

If it weren't for Roseanne, she'd be slinging hash at the local IHOP.

RetroGuy2000 · 06-22-2018, 12:18 PM

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I won't watch and will laugh when it's cancelled. That Sara Gilbert woman is a nasty piece of work. Stabbed Roseanne right between the shoulder blades.

She just said she didn't support racist comments. Anyone would have said this, as it's a no-brainer. You just don't call black people apes on social media. If you do, you won't have a job the next day.

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If it weren't for Roseanne, she'd be slinging hash at the local IHOP.

Sara Gilbert is the sister of Melissa Gilbert, who was president of the Screen Actor's Guild for many years. They are Hollywood royalty, and there's no way Sara would be "slinging hash at IHOP" if she wanted work in Hollywood.

cfr1970 · 06-22-2018, 12:26 PM

It's actually a lot more than that. Gilbert is the one who wanted to bring back Roseanne. This was HER little pet project. In fact, she had to convince Roseanne to get on board to do it. And when Roseanne made that tweet (whether it was right or wrong is irrelevant), Gilbert was the first one toi distance herself from Roseanne in order to protect her little reboot project.

She sided with ABC and threw Roseanne under the speeding bus with absolutely not one iota of regret. All to save her little reboot project that Roseanne didn't even want.

So now she's the main star and the exec producer of a show that was created by the person who MADE Gilbert what she is. IMO that's a backstabber. I won't argue this issue any more because it can go on and on so we can just disagree.

Sara Gilbert is the sister of Melissa Gilbert, who was president of the Screen Actor's Guild for many years. They are Hollywood royalty, and there's no way Sara would be "slinging hash at IHOP" if she wanted work in Hollywood.

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The Gilberts are hardly Hollywood royalty. That made me laugh. Sara Gilbert is a very unlikable person and just exudes nastiness to me. Others may like her, but I find her acting, personality, and looks to be....well, i'll just be nice and say "distasteful".

Hope it fails spectacularly!

RetroGuy2000 · 06-22-2018, 01:01 PM

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It's actually a lot more than that. Gilbert is the one who wanted to bring back Roseanne. This was HER little pet project. In fact, she had to convince Roseanne to get on board to do it. And when Roseanne made that tweet (whether it was right or wrong is irrelevant), Gilbert was the first one toi distance herself from Roseanne in order to protect her little reboot project.

She sided with ABC and threw Roseanne under the speeding bus with absolutely not one iota of regret. All to save her little reboot project that Roseanne didn't even want.

You think Roseanne "didn't want" to have the show rebooted? Roseanne Barr does not do anything she doesn't want to do. She said she was "having a blast", which is quite the opposite of a project she "didn't want" to do.

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The Gilberts are hardly Hollywood royalty. That made me laugh.

You think the president of the most powerful organization in Hollywood isn't Hollywood royalty? Well, okay.

Impressions · 06-22-2018, 01:39 PM

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It's actually a lot more than that. Gilbert is the one who wanted to bring back Roseanne. This was HER little pet project. In fact, she had to convince Roseanne to get on board to do it. And when Roseanne made that tweet (whether it was right or wrong is irrelevant), Gilbert was the first one toi distance herself from Roseanne in order to protect her little reboot project.

She sided with ABC and threw Roseanne under the speeding bus with absolutely not one iota of regret. All to save her little reboot project that Roseanne didn't even want.

So now she's the main star and the exec producer of a show that was created by the person who MADE Gilbert what she is. IMO that's a backstabber. I won't argue this issue any more because it can go on and on so we can just disagree.

Sara Gilbert is the sister of Melissa Gilbert, who was president of the Screen Actor's Guild for many years. They are Hollywood royalty, and there's no way Sara would be "slinging hash at IHOP" if she wanted work in Hollywood.

The Gilberts are hardly Hollywood royalty. That made me laugh. Sara Gilbert is a very unlikable person and just exudes nastiness to me. Others may like her, but I find her acting, personality, and looks to be....well, i'll just be nice and say "distasteful".

Hope it fails spectacularly!

Are you serious? Roseanne threw herself into that bus with that racist tweet.

Just because Sara distanced herself from a racist tweet, that somehow makes her a backstabber? Yeah, she's gonna give up her dignity, her values and stand behind a comment that is totally repulsive. Makes total sense.

Just because someone helped your career doesn't mean you need to stand by them 100%. Trust and respect are not unconditional.

Also, get your facts straight. They were BOTH exec producers on the reboot, and Roseanne shared co-creator credit on the original show. There's no way she stole the show away from her. Roseanne even agreed to give up the show so people's jobs could be created.

Terrible arguments all around.

Mr. Television · 06-22-2018, 01:47 PM

One thing about it if they Kill Roseanne off it can be explained as a part of a book that Dan was writing. Just about how they brought him back. The show should have stayed in the 90's. It's getting ridiculous now.

RetroGuy2000 · 06-22-2018, 02:16 PM

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Are you serious? Roseanne threw herself into that bus with that racist tweet.

Exactly. Nobody forced Roseanne to write that racist tweet. Not even the Ambien.

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Just because Sara distanced herself from a racist tweet, that somehow makes her a backstabber? Yeah, she's gonna give up her dignity, her values and stand behind a comment that is totally repulsive. Makes total sense.

Just because someone helped your career doesn't mean you need to stand by them 100%. Trust and respect are not unconditional.

Well said. I'd only add that Roseanne was hardly the only person who helped Sara's career get off the ground: the casting director, the writers, and the producers all share some credit for that. (And if Marcy Carsey suddenly went on some crazy online rant, you better believe everyone would distance themselves from her crazy statements).

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Also, get your facts straight. They were BOTH exec producers on the reboot, and Roseanne shared co-creator credit on the original show. There's no way she stole the show away from her. Roseanne even agreed to give up the show so people's jobs could be created.

Yep. Roseanne knows what she did was over the line, and I'm glad she's stepping back so the damage can be mitigated. The only person here who did anything wrong was the person who called a black person an "ape" on Twitter, in front of millions of people: it was an unprovoked attack, cowardly and dumb, and Roseanne rightly lost her job because of it.

cfr1970 · 06-22-2018, 03:48 PM

There's no way she stole the show away from her.

That's EXACTLY what Gilbert did. She stole her show from under her. And Roseanne gave in and gave up her rights to the show not just to "save 200 jobs", but because she knew darn well she couldn't go up against the current fascist/liberal/Hollywood/Groupthink/PC brigade.

The current political atmosphere is so disgusting from BOTH sides, but it's one particular side that if you anger them, you're done forever. It's like 1939 Germany!

And a horrifying tweet by a Hollywood actor calling for a child to be placed in a cage with pedophiles to be raped doesn't garner any outrage simply because the words came from a liberal towards a conservative.

Roseanne calls someone an "ape" and loses everything. Give me a break. I just hope Roseanne gets the last laugh when all is said and done.

Edited to add: Roseanne certainly DID have reservations about coming back for a reboot. She initially DIDN'T want to do it and thought it was a bad idea. It was GILBERT who pressured her to do it. I wouldn't be surprised if she had this planned all along. Snake.

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TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,062	ABC officially orders Roseanne spinoff The Conners -- without Roseanne Barr's partici ...pation https://tvline.com/2018/06/21/rosean...ilbert-darlene “Roseanne Barr will have no financial or creative involvement in the new series,” ABC said in announcing its 10-episode straight-to-series order for The Conners spinoff, premiering this fall and starring Sara Gilbert, John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf, Lecy Goranson and Michael Fishman. Executive producer Tom Werner and showrunner Bruce Helford will also be back. ABC didn't announce how the spinoff would move forward without Roseanne Conner, but a description hinted that she might be killed off. “After a sudden turn of events, the Conners are forced to face the daily struggles of life in Lanford in a way they never have before," ABC said in its announcement. "This iconic family — Dan, Jackie, Darlene, Becky and D.J. — grapples with parenthood, dating, an unexpected pregnancy, financial pressures, aging and in-laws in working-class America. Through it all, the fights, the coupon cutting, the hand-me-downs, the breakdowns – with love, humor and perseverance, the family prevails.” ABC's announcement included a statement from Barr herself: “I regret the circumstances that have caused me to be removed from Roseanne," Barr said. "I agreed to the settlement in order that 200 jobs of beloved cast and crew could be saved, and I wish the best for everyone involved." ALSO: Roseanne Barr is expected to retain all rights to her Roseanne Conner character, including for future spinoffs or reboots beyond The Conners.

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cfr1970 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 13, 2017 Location: Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 3,368	I won't watch and will laugh when it's cancelled. That Sara Gilbert woman is a nasty piece of work. Stabbed Roseanne right between the shoulder blades. If it weren't for Roseanne, she'd be slinging hash at the local IHOP.

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cfr1970 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 13, 2017 Location: Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 3,368	It's actually a lot more than that. Gilbert is the one who wanted to bring back Roseanne. This was HER little pet project. In fact, she had to convince Roseanne to get on board to do it. And when Roseanne made that tweet (whether it was right or wrong is irrelevant), Gilbert was the first one toi distance herself from Roseanne in order to protect her little reboot project. She sided with ABC and threw Roseanne under the speeding bus with absolutely not one iota of regret. All to save her little reboot project that Roseanne didn't even want. So now she's the main star and the exec producer of a show that was created by the person who MADE Gilbert what she is. IMO that's a backstabber. I won't argue this issue any more because it can go on and on so we can just disagree. Sara Gilbert is the sister of Melissa Gilbert, who was president of the Screen Actor's Guild for many years. They are Hollywood royalty, and there's no way Sara would be "slinging hash at IHOP" if she wanted work in Hollywood. [/QUOTE] The Gilberts are hardly Hollywood royalty. That made me laugh. Sara Gilbert is a very unlikable person and just exudes nastiness to me. Others may like her, but I find her acting, personality, and looks to be....well, i'll just be nice and say "distasteful". Hope it fails spectacularly!

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Mr. Television 23 Years at Sitcoms Online Forum Icon Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Location: Somewhere you're Not Posts: 62,133	One thing about it if they Kill Roseanne off it can be explained as a part of a book that Dan was writing. Just about how they brought him back. The show should have stayed in the 90's. It's getting ridiculous now.

06-22-2018, 03:48 PM	#15
cfr1970 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 13, 2017 Location: Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 3,368	There's no way she stole the show away from her. That's EXACTLY what Gilbert did. She stole her show from under her. And Roseanne gave in and gave up her rights to the show not just to "save 200 jobs", but because she knew darn well she couldn't go up against the current fascist/liberal/Hollywood/Groupthink/PC brigade. The current political atmosphere is so disgusting from BOTH sides, but it's one particular side that if you anger them, you're done forever. It's like 1939 Germany! And a horrifying tweet by a Hollywood actor calling for a child to be placed in a cage with pedophiles to be raped doesn't garner any outrage simply because the words came from a liberal towards a conservative. Roseanne calls someone an "ape" and loses everything. Give me a break. I just hope Roseanne gets the last laugh when all is said and done. Edited to add: Roseanne certainly DID have reservations about coming back for a reboot. She initially DIDN'T want to do it and thought it was a bad idea. It was GILBERT who pressured her to do it. I wouldn't be surprised if she had this planned all along. Snake.