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counrfk · 09-17-2017, 10:36 PM

I'd rather have Archie hands down. Archie had his faults, but he was a good father in many respects. He worked hard and provided for his family. He loved Gloria, and they had a special relationship. He seemed to be an involved father when she was growing up: feeding her, changing her, walking her to school, etc. Archie had his ignorant ways, but he wasn't evil or mean-spirited. There's no way he would have ever condoned a black family being brutalized or hurt. He was harmless. When it came right down to it, he always ended up doing the right thing.

Mike wasn't a bad guy either. However, he wasn't the family man that Archie was. Once Mike got through college bumming off of Archie and Gloria's money, then he basically became selfish. It was all about him. He talked down to Gloria, Archie, and Edith because they didn't have his level of education. He seemed to forget that those three helped him get the education. He wasn't very involved in Joey's raising, nothing like Archie was with Gloria. Then he ends up totally abandoning his family to go live in a commune.

OH Nuts! · 10-26-2017, 07:48 AM

Neither one is truly endearing, but if I must pick it'd be Archie.

At least Archie is real, not a smug phony like Michael. And when someone is right out there, you can still find a way to deal with them.

Bill-Sanford · 02-09-2018, 04:27 AM

If either one of those punks were my father I'd disown them!

tlc38tlc38 · 02-10-2018, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OH Nuts!

Neither one is truly endearing, but if I must pick it'd be Archie.

At least Archie is real, not a smug phony like Michael. And when someone is right out there, you can still find a way to deal with them.

Yes. I echo this. Mike was phony...at least Archie was real.

AB · 02-11-2018, 05:41 PM

Archie, my dad was kind of a cross between Archie Bunker & Sgt. Carter from Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C. so I'd feel right at home with Archie.

Wawwie · 02-11-2018, 09:12 PM

As obnoxious as Mike can sometimes be, at least he is smart. Archie is an idiot. So my vote would go to Mike.

Johnny be good! · 10-25-2019, 02:00 PM

Despite his faults, Archie was, in his own way, a good man. He never beat up anyone.

704Hauser · 08-15-2020, 09:59 AM

All in all, I'd vote Archie - while he was bigoted, he truly cared about his family (as evident by Gloria's love for him).

Mike on the other hand, didn't even want to be a dad until Joey was conceived

GentlemanJim · 08-15-2020, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by counrfk

There's no way he would have ever condoned a black family being brutalized or hurt.

I agree with everything you posted, except the part I have copied above.

I don't think he would have participated in a material "hands on" fashion, but I don't think he would have intervened in opposition to "the pack", if he was significantly outnumbered, either.

I can see him slipping around the corner feeling helpless to stop "the evil ways of the world"

Just my take.

Wawwie · 08-15-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wawwie

As obnoxious as Mike can sometimes be, at least he is smart. Archie is an idiot. So my vote would go to Mike.

I would like to change my vote from two years ago. I never saw much of Archie Bunker's Place so I did not know that Mike abandoned his family so he could live in a wacky commune. Now that I know this, I change my vote to Archie.

TVFactFan · 08-15-2020, 03:47 PM

Archie, he was manly and did man things

watched sports
went to the bar
Easily annoyed like me

rusty spike · 08-15-2020, 08:36 PM

Archie was wrong on a lot of issues, but you knew where you stood with him.

Mike could be slimy. I've worked with people similar to Mike's philosophies. They say that they're team players and then you find out that they step on anybody's toes if they are in the way. Mike was only loyal to himself.

Heenan Fan · 08-22-2020, 02:31 PM

Archie. The Meathead was a wimp and he would of turned me into a wimp and turned my sister into a tree-hugging whore.

TheLittleFaerie · 08-27-2020, 01:25 AM

Seeing as how I am in the LGBTQ, I would pick Mike. I've had to put up with an ignorant, unaccepting father all my life

Road Dog · 12-31-2020, 02:43 PM

Mike always looked down upon Archie's bigotry and his conservative views, but Mike never lived up to the SJW that he portrayed himself to be. In many episodes Mike treats Gloria very badly and uses his own liberal views to justify his own bigotry. Mike talked the talk, but never walked the walk.

09-17-2017, 10:36 PM	#1
counrfk Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 12, 2017 Posts: 136	Would you rather have Archie or Mike for a father? I'd rather have Archie hands down. Archie had his faults, but he was a good father in many respects. He worked hard and provided for his family. He loved Gloria, and they had a special relationship. He seemed to be an involved father when she was growing up: feeding her, changing her, walking her to school, etc. Archie had his ignorant ways, but he wasn't evil or mean-spirited. There's no way he would have ever condoned a black family being brutalized or hurt. He was harmless. When it came right down to it, he always ended up doing the right thing. Mike wasn't a bad guy either. However, he wasn't the family man that Archie was. Once Mike got through college bumming off of Archie and Gloria's money, then he basically became selfish. It was all about him. He talked down to Gloria, Archie, and Edith because they didn't have his level of education. He seemed to forget that those three helped him get the education. He wasn't very involved in Joey's raising, nothing like Archie was with Gloria. Then he ends up totally abandoning his family to go live in a commune.

10-25-2019, 02:00 PM	#7
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08-15-2020, 09:59 AM	#8
704Hauser Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 08, 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 366	All in all, I'd vote Archie - while he was bigoted, he truly cared about his family (as evident by Gloria's love for him). Mike on the other hand, didn't even want to be a dad until Joey was conceived
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10-26-2017, 07:48 AM	#2
OH Nuts! Member Forum King Join Date: Feb 15, 2005 Posts: 133,383	Neither one is truly endearing, but if I must pick it'd be Archie. At least Archie is real, not a smug phony like Michael. And when someone is right out there, you can still find a way to deal with them.

02-09-2018, 04:27 AM	#3
Bill-Sanford Member Forum Hawk Join Date: Feb 07, 2018 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 4	If either one of those punks were my father I'd disown them!

02-11-2018, 05:41 PM	#5
AB Member Eternal Member Forum Icon Join Date: Dec 26, 2006 Location: The South Posts: 59,429	Archie, my dad was kind of a cross between Archie Bunker & Sgt. Carter from Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C. so I'd feel right at home with Archie.

02-11-2018, 09:12 PM	#6
Wawwie Member Forum Star Join Date: Jul 26, 2006 Location: New York Posts: 14,376	As obnoxious as Mike can sometimes be, at least he is smart. Archie is an idiot. So my vote would go to Mike.

08-15-2020, 03:47 PM	#11
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,057	Archie, he was manly and did man things watched sports went to the bar Easily annoyed like me

08-15-2020, 08:36 PM	#12
rusty spike Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 08, 2015 Location: Southwest Posts: 1,124	Archie was wrong on a lot of issues, but you knew where you stood with him. Mike could be slimy. I've worked with people similar to Mike's philosophies. They say that they're team players and then you find out that they step on anybody's toes if they are in the way. Mike was only loyal to himself.

08-22-2020, 02:31 PM	#13
Heenan Fan Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Oct 19, 2016 Posts: 6,001	Archie. The Meathead was a wimp and he would of turned me into a wimp and turned my sister into a tree-hugging whore.

08-27-2020, 01:25 AM	#14
TheLittleFaerie Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 15, 2017 Posts: 1,948	Seeing as how I am in the LGBTQ, I would pick Mike. I've had to put up with an ignorant, unaccepting father all my life

12-31-2020, 02:43 PM	#15
Road Dog Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 30, 2004 Posts: 94	Mike always looked down upon Archie's bigotry and his conservative views, but Mike never lived up to the SJW that he portrayed himself to be. In many episodes Mike treats Gloria very badly and uses his own liberal views to justify his own bigotry. Mike talked the talk, but never walked the walk.