Disappeared

[libby2130]

I agree, her brothers' older friend who was the "go to driver" for all the girls and their friends....

friends say she went to her boyfriends' new place the week before so why would she ask her brothers' friend to take her to the old place.

plus the house was deserted because the city condemed it and it needed work done, and she was very afraid of the dark

my question is did he know that the house was vacant closed up by the city it only makes sense that he didn;t and just said I dropped her off at the boyfriend house and no one would be the wiser. but he finds out after the house was closed up

[LooksLikeCRicci]

Originally Posted by libby2130

I agree, her brothers' older friend who was the "go to driver" for all the girls and their friends....

friends say she went to her boyfriends' new place the week before so why would she ask her brothers' friend to take her to the old place.

plus the house was deserted because the city condemed it and it needed work done, and she was very afraid of the dark

my question is did he know that the house was vacant closed up by the city it only makes sense that he didn;t and just said I dropped her off at the boyfriend house and no one would be the wiser. but he finds out after the house was closed up

I think that's a good theory. The fact that he's no longer cooperating with the investigation also leads me to believe he's not on the up and up...

[libby2130]

so I did some number crunching for disappeared.... link to cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappeared_(TV_series)

DEATHS

16 murders, method of death for the others 1 cliff fall, 1 slipped and went over the falls, 1 suicide, 1 hit by car, 3 deaths undetermined (bones too old) 1 from exposure

ALIVE

1 ran away, 2 were thieves prosecuted when found, 1 trapped in car wreck, 1 joined a cult and declined to contact his parents when found, 1 had amnesia, and 1 ended up drugged in the hollywood sex trade

still MISSING

76 cases so far..

does not include the DISAPPEARED specials I can come back and add them later

some cases are still technically listed as missing because they are missing but someone was found guilty in the case

[SPD Yellow]

Originally Posted by dynoguy88

Yeah, I watched that episode last night and felt a lot of anger. Like you said, there is no mystery here and the guilty parties are clear as day. Yet nobody has ever been punished.

Sounds like the Mike Williams case they did a few seasons ago. It's pretty damn obvious the guy's likely dead and it's obvious who did it and why, but since they don't have a body, they can't charge anyone with anything.

[LooksLikeCRicci]

Originally Posted by SPD Yellow

Sounds like the Mike Williams case they did a few seasons ago. It's pretty damn obvious the guy's likely dead and it's obvious who did it and why, but since they don't have a body, they can't charge anyone with anything.

That's the one where he went missing in Florida? They suspect the wife and lover killed him and dumped him in the Glades?

[libby2130]

oh yes that one is so OBVIOUS,

another one is patty atkins season 2 that crawled under the cover of the back of the coworkers' truck after her shift and went on a trip never heard from again... she had given him sums of money she was in love with him (he was married)he OBVIOUSLY killed her

here is the link with the cases and the status the newer season 8 is not there



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappeared_(TV_series)

[SPD Yellow]

Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

That's the one where he went missing in Florida? They suspect the wife and lover killed him and dumped him in the Glades?

That's the one. Always feel so sorry for the victim's mom. She's one of my favorite people on the show, not just because those pigtails are adorable, but the amount of time and energy she's dedicated to singlehandedly keeping her son's case out there, even though as a result, she no longer has contact with her granddaughter. People told her to put it aside for her granddaughter's sake, but she pressed on because, to paraphrase, "My granddaughter had people looking out for her, but no one was looking out for my son." And the backstory about how she scrimped and saved so she could send her son to the best possible school. Again, she's such a sweet and amazing lady. Hopefully the wife and best friend will get caught and sent to jail, and she gets reunited with her granddaughter.

Plus, like I said, her pigtails are adorable. Sorry but I felt it warranted being repeated.

[BlueGalexy]

Originally Posted by SPD Yellow

Sounds like the Mike Williams case they did a few seasons ago. It's pretty damn obvious the guy's likely dead and it's obvious who did it and why, but since they don't have a body, they can't charge anyone with anything.

I decided to hop into this thread for a couple reasons. One is that like a few other posters, Disappeared is easily one of my favorite true crime shows around...after UM of course. Two is that I was actually checking out the list of cases profiled by the show the other day and was surprised by how many had been updated in recent years.

With regards to the Mike Williams case, that is probably the episode of Disappeared that stuck with me more than any other. IMO, it couldn't be more obvious that Williams is sadly not a missing person, but a murder victim, and (still JMO here), it couldn't be more obvious that his former wife and “best friend” were involved in the crime. Speaking of Denise Williams, she appears to have had some major problems in her subsequent marriage to Winchester as well. Apparently after Williams decided to end her marriage to Winchester, he allegedly became violent and abducted his soon to be ex-wife at gunpoint. While she survived the incident without harm, he is currently incarcerated because of it. Soooo, after her first husband was apparently eaten by gators, her second husband (who was thoughtful enough to load her up on life insurance for hubby #1) is now also out of her hair because he's serving time. All in a day's work, huh?

There has also been some updates in Fuksa and Glasgow cases. Fuksa's death was ruled as suicide, whereas I'm not sure what they decided regarding the Glasgow case. Glasgow's remains were apparently found on Petit Jean mountain after all, but while many people tend to believe he died as a result of a tragic accident, his family seems to believe otherwise. There have been more case updates in recent years, so if you're a fan of the show like I am, it's worth checking out.

[BlueGalexy]

I've been an avid watcher of Disappeared from the beginning, and as such have seen a number of cases they profiled that sort of fall under the umbrella of--suicide...did they or didn't they?

Of these episodes, the one that probably confuses me the most is the tragic death of 25 year old Georgia resident Kelly Nash. I should add the disclaimer that while this was a recent episode of Disappeared, it may have been one of their “special edition” episodes. Most of the time when I see a case where suicide is a possibility, I usually end up learning things that further validate that theory. That just didn't seem to be the case in the Nash disappearance IMO.

By all accounts, Nash was a young, well educated, attractive man who seemed to be in the prime of his life. He was a soon to be college grad, was successfully employed at his father's construction company, was reportedly close to his family, and was in a committed relationship with his live-in girlfriend. There have been no reports of any significant physical or mental health problems, and he apparently didn't have any struggles with drugs and/or alcohol.

Despite all this, he somehow disappeared from his home in the middle of the night with basically only the clothes on his back. The only other item missing from his home was a handgun that Nash reportedly owned. Tragically, just weeks after Nash went missing, his body was found in Lake Lanier. The leading theory by LE at this point is that Nash died of a gunshot wound and subsequent drowning.

I just don't have a sweet clue as to what to make of this case! Maybe my fellow posters can clue me in here. Is this type of thing common amongst suicide victims? Is it likely that this young man who seemingly had everything to live for, and no major problems or stresses to speak of would wander off and take his own life? Am I just thinking zebras here, or could there be more to this case that we're not privy to?

I'd love to hear some thoughts on this because I'm just stumped.

http://crimefeed.com/2015/04/disappe...lly-nash-case/

[SPD Yellow]

Originally Posted by BlueGalexy

With regards to the Mike Williams case, that is probably the episode of Disappeared that stuck with me more than any other. IMO, it couldn't be more obvious that Williams is sadly not a missing person, but a murder victim, and (still JMO here), it couldn't be more obvious that his former wife and “best friend” were involved in the crime. Speaking of Denise Williams, she appears to have had some major problems in her subsequent marriage to Winchester as well. Apparently after Williams decided to end her marriage to Winchester, he allegedly became violent and abducted his soon to be ex-wife at gunpoint. While she survived the incident without harm, he is currently incarcerated because of it.

Is it wrong that the bit about Winchester is making me go, "Payback is a bitch, huh." Yeah it probably is.

Does Denise still live in that house? If she isn't, they can finally do some forensic work, spray some luminol around. Probably can't count on getting Winchester to turn on her.

Hopefully, they'll be able to resolve the case, so his mom will know what happened to her son and be able to put him to rest. Also she will be reunited with her granddaughter.

[BlueGalexy]

Originally Posted by SPD Yellow

Is it wrong that the bit about Winchester is making me go, "Payback is a bitch, huh." Yeah it probably is.

Does Denise still live in that house? If she isn't, they can finally do some forensic work, spray some luminol around. Probably can't count on getting Winchester to turn on her.

Hopefully, they'll be able to resolve the case, so his mom will know what happened to her son and be able to put him to rest. Also she will be reunited with her granddaughter.

To be honest, short of finding his remains, I had always hoped for a number of things to happen in the Williams case. First I'd hoped that Winchester would indeed flip on his ex-wife after the whole armed kidnapping mess. Second, I too had hoped that LE could turn up new leads upon Williams and Winchester vacating their residence. In answer to your question however, I don't know if Williams is still residing in the home she shared with her deceased husband, but I believe that she is. Most likely a shady effort on her behalf to prevent any search activity by LE, would be my guess. Third thing I'd always hoped for was that Mike Williams's daughter would become curious with age and start asking her mother the hard questions. She's a teenager now, I believe, and in this media driven culture no longer has to swallow her mother's party line regarding the circumstances of her father's disappearance.
IIRC, that's one of the ways that LE was finally able to solve the David Jackson disappearance. His grown son finally started looking into the case outside of what he'd been told his whole life, and confronted his mother about it. It's actually somewhat reminiscent of the Williams case, with the exception of it finally being solved. You should check it out, it's quite the story.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ambushed...david-jackson/

ETA: Wow...I'd forgotten that the Jackson case was another Florida missing persons case that had gone ice cold. Seeing that one finally get solved gives me new hope about the Williams case.

[karenjanee2]

For those interested in the Mike Williams Case:

http://www.wctv.tv/content/news/Answ...465456163.html

They aren't releasing all of the details at this time, but they have located Mike Williams remains and his death was ruled a homicide.

This is one episode of Disappeared I have only seen a few times, because it makes me angry. People were pretty certain that the wife and her lover did this and collected the insurance money, but without a body there was no way to prove it.

[BlueGalexy]

Originally Posted by karenjanee2

For those interested in the Mike Williams Case:

http://www.wctv.tv/content/news/Answ...465456163.html

They aren't releasing all of the details at this time, but they have located Mike Williams remains and his death was ruled a homicide.

This is one episode of Disappeared I have only seen a few times, because it makes me angry. People were pretty certain that the wife and her lover did this and collected the insurance money, but without a body there was no way to prove it.

Thank you so much Karen for the update on this case! I've been avidly following the Williams' case for years hoping that his family would finally get the answers they sought. While it's tragic that Williams did indeed turn out to be a homicide victim, I'm so glad his family is finally one very important step closer to getting justice for him. My thoughts and prayers go out to Williams' mom, brother, and daughter.

Show of hands...who thinks Winchester finally rolled on Williams' widow?

[SPD Yellow]

F Yeah! That case was always irritating as hell because it was quite obvious what had happened, who did it, and why, but they couldn’t do anything.

I hope Mike’s mom got to live to see all this. She was just such a cool person, easily one of my favorite people on Disappeared. She did what she could to keep her son’s case going, even though it cost her access to her granddaughter as a result. In addition, there’s all this background stuff about how she scrimped and saved, so her son could go to the best possible school. Also her pigtails are adorable. I know I should probably stop saying that, but c’mon, they are adorable.

[LooksLikeCRicci]

Originally Posted by SPD Yellow

F Yeah! That case was always irritating as hell because it was quite obvious what had happened, who did it, and why, but they couldn’t do anything.

I hope Mike’s mom got to live to see all this. She was just such a cool person, easily one of my favorite people on Disappeared. She did what she could to keep her son’s case going, even though it cost her access to her granddaughter as a result. In addition, there’s all this background stuff about how she scrimped and saved, so her son could go to the best possible school. Also her pigtails are adorable. I know I should probably stop saying that, but c’mon, they are adorable.

His mother is still alive. And she's still rocking the pigtails.