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the Clampetts are in a fancy Beverly Hills jewelry store. Granny points to a tray of rubies. Granny: "How much fer one o' them red diamonds?" clerk: "Madam, those are rubies." Granny: "OK ask her kin we buy one offa her." clerk: " The ruby I am talking about is not a lady." Granny: "Lissen, how she got them diamonds is her business. I'm just sayin' ask her kin we buy one from her." |
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All of these shows stayed on air about 3-4 seasons too long. Perhaps others can think of more shows from this period that fit this category. thx for reading [/QUOTE]M*A*S*H*
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if the shows in question are still delivering ratings and profits, then of course they'll keep them on. Quality or watchability have nothing to do with it. The executives care about $$$ and demographics. |
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ABC also came out with Room 222 and The Courtship of Eddie's Father which were also considered relevant and topical and they didn't do too badly. NBC also chipped in with a couple of minor hits with Julia and The Bill Cosby Show and for a while these shows and similar ones like That Girl, Love American Style, and Nanny and the Professor (all on ABC) helped to bridge the gap between the 60s and 70s. Once Mary Tyler Moore and All In The Family hit it big, suddenly the rules changed and they became the models that everyone else was trying to copy, and that's still the case today. |
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So what happened in 1975-76? TV got so inane(with exceptions)that I swore the demographic Networks were aiming for from the mid-70s through the 60s was 12-year olds.
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What really blows my mind is that 45 years ago we had about 100 shows on the air. Now there a 100 tv stations on the air each with about 100 shows . I don't watch much current tv. In fact the only current show I see is Devious Maids. The rest retro shows. The new shows which I sometime bump into are so loud in background sound, actors voices and laugh tracks. 45 years ago, tv was so different.
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I'm also thinking that the over-50s who liked the rural sitcoms so much and would have been left with nothing to watch on their TV sets when those rural sitcoms were cancelled probably switched to the cop and detective shows like Cannon, Ironside, Adam-12, Mannix, and The FBI. Perhaps that is a reason why even the crime/police procedurals of today skew older.
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Alan Brady's Hair is absolutely right -- there were other factors at play in the Rural Purge than straight demo-targeting.
In fact, the only element of this programming trend directly correlated to demographics was part of a power play between CBS' new network president Bob Wood and Senior Programming VP Mike Dann, the latter of whom had essentially been making all of the scheduling decisions since the mid '60s and tended to base decisions solely on total viewership. To exert his new authority over Dann and the '70-'71 season's schedule, Wood's tactic was to convince Paley that advertisers specifically wanted younger audiences -- the kind Gleason and Skelton weren't delivering. Paley went along with Wood and cancelled those two shows (along with PETTICOAT JUNCTION, which might have gotten ousted anyway), and successfully shocked Dann, who had squeaked out a technical victory in total ratings over NBC for the '69-'70 season by employing Operation 100, a sweeping strategy in which low-performing shows were pre-empted by special presentations, and therefore assumed that his judgment was king. With the network now rejecting his entire philosophy, Dann quietly left CBS that summer and was replaced by Fred Silverman. However, in this discussion, it should be noted that the targeting of younger demos was not yet a proven science at the start of the '70-71 season, despite being a factor in the way some networks (specifically NBC) spun their numbers in the late '60s to make themselves look like winners. Interestingly, although Wood really believed advertisers were eyeing younger audiences, his plan to inject CBS' schedule with "relevant" programming seemed like a passing, and mostly unfruitful trend by the November 1970 sweeps, when the next year's schedule was being drafted. As a result, a few back-to-normal decisions were made (the kind that one might have expected from Dann) for the start of the '71-'72 season. But with both ALL IN THE FAMILY and THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW quickly emerging as TV's most prestigious new offerings, Wood's theory was seemingly validated and the following year, '72-'73, was readied with content of a similar, more "relevant" type. By then, it looked like both NBC and ABC were now scrambling to follow CBS' lead, even though they'd both been trying to skew young since at least '66 as a means of undermining CBS' valid claim of being the most watched. With regard to the FCC's 1970 passage of the Prime Time Access Rule, although that decision was crafted to have more of an impact on the affiliates than the networks, it was the latter group that seemed the most affected. With less time for the networks to program each night, they not only had to cut shows (and they each had a lot of not-so-great offerings that they were glad to have an excuse to sacrifice), but they also needed to cut their own expenses (drop old stars) and maximize profits (make bulk deals with larger studios instead of many independents). The networks' response to the PTA passage is really the reason why all those long-running "rural" shows (like GREEN ACRES and THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES) were dropped when they were, after the '70-'71 season -- not simply because they were demographically unimportant or no longer in keeping with the network's brand, but because they were getting too expensive to bankroll, and the executives, knowing that times were changing, needed material that was financially expedient to distribute. The fact that television tastes changed around 1971 in favor of shows that indeed pulled younger crowds was merely a good excuse that could be applied to what had been a business decision (in 1970) to accommodate the ruling, which itself was made just after the '70-'71 schedule had already been announced. If that ruling had come a month before, more "rural" shows would have likely been axed before the new season had even begun -- and before demo-targeting had cautiously been tested by Wood on CBS' schedule. |
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I remember that 7:30 starting tv time. If I recall the Wonderful of Disney was on Sunday? and it started at 7. I think it was nice that the youngsters including me at the time could see a show and be in bed by 8 or 9.
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They need to a reverse purge today to thin out all the urban and suburban shows that are stinking up the airwaves.
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