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Lorimar Television · 02-03-2014, 01:36 AM

I think its possible Penny and Carol are half sisters. Penny and Ivy's last name was Baker, but Carol says her maiden name is Williams. Carol also says later on her father was a gambling addict who almost put her family on the streets. It makes sense Ivy would divorce him, remarry, have Penny, and then Penny's father dies years later.

jehobden · 02-03-2014, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorimar Television

I think its possible Penny and Carol are half sisters. Penny and Ivy's last name was Baker, but Carol says her maiden name is Williams. Carol also says later on her father was a gambling addict who almost put her family on the streets. It makes sense Ivy would divorce him, remarry, have Penny, and then Penny's father dies years later.

I never saw this particular episode (where Carol gave her maiden name as Williams), so I'd always assumed that Carol's maiden name was Baker as well. This theory makes sense, or it's just another case of writers forgetting their own characters' history.

Lorimar Television · 02-03-2014, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jehobden

I never saw this particular episode (where Carol gave her maiden name as Williams), so I'd always assumed that Carol's maiden name was Baker as well. This theory makes sense, or it's just another case of writers forgetting their own characters' history.

It was season two, episode two when Carol visits her old teacher who is teaching JT now and later finds out she gave JT a bad grade because he's a jock. The quote is:
Teacher: Carol Williams!
Carol: Yes. Well then I was Carol Williams. Then I was Carol Foster. Now I'm Carol Lambert.

ThomasE · 05-04-2014, 09:43 AM

Ok. I always wondered what Carol's maiden name was. I was just thinking about it.

RetroGuy2000 · 05-04-2014, 05:57 PM

I think this is a pretty good theory. It explains why Carol and Penny look nothing alike, have different last names, and even possibly why Carol doesn't seem remotely upset when Penny disappears from the family.

Blackout · 11-11-2014, 02:43 PM

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I think this is a pretty good theory. It explains why Carol and Penny look nothing alike, have different last names, and even possibly why Carol doesn't seem remotely upset when Penny disappears from the family.

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Furienna · 01-11-2015, 10:41 AM

Yeah, that could be it.

Too bad though that both Penny and Ivy disappeared after just one season, never to be seen again. I mean, they could at least have made some cameos!

tlc38tlc38 · 01-11-2015, 01:54 PM

I liked Penny (Patrika Darbo) on SBS. I think her character could've been fleshed out more to give her an actual storyline instead of just a man hungry woman. She did have that one episode where she was getting serious about the mortician.

I'm kinda of glad that Ivy (Peggy Rea) left when she did because she went on to play Jean on "Grace Under Fire" and I liked that character a lot more than Ivy.

Blackout · 03-03-2015, 06:47 PM

to me they added nothing and took away lines from the better characters

Furienna · 03-03-2015, 07:35 PM

Now, now... I think you are way too hard on them. It might seem like they "added nothing", but I wonder if that wasn't only because they never were given that much to do. There were so many characters on the show in the beginning, and it seems like Penny and Ivy were the ones to get the short end of the stick.

Blackout · 03-05-2015, 05:33 PM

but isn't that a blessing in disguise? it gave us so many more memorable moments with JT and the gang

Furienna · 03-05-2015, 07:34 PM

Yeah, I guess that they were the ones, who had to go. But still, it would have been nice if they had turned up for a visit now and then, at least in a Christmas episode or something like that.

Blackout · 03-05-2015, 09:05 PM

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Yeah, I guess that they were the ones, who had to go. But still, it would have been nice if they had turned up for a visit now and then, at least in a Christmas episode or something like that.

Are you originally from Sweden or did you move there?

I had no idea Step By Step was famous outside of north america

Furienna · 03-06-2015, 04:00 AM

Yes, I'm originally from Sweden. But our TV networks have aired many American TV shows.

Johnny be good! · 05-04-2019, 03:44 PM

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Now, now... I think you are way too hard on them. It might seem like they "added nothing", but I wonder if that wasn't only because they never were given that much to do. There were so many characters on the show in the beginning, and it seems like Penny and Ivy were the ones to get the short end of the stick.

They were definitely on the low end of the totem pole.

02-03-2014, 01:36 AM	#1
Lorimar Television Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 06, 2007 Posts: 7,034	Theory About Carol and Penny I think its possible Penny and Carol are half sisters. Penny and Ivy's last name was Baker, but Carol says her maiden name is Williams. Carol also says later on her father was a gambling addict who almost put her family on the streets. It makes sense Ivy would divorce him, remarry, have Penny, and then Penny's father dies years later.
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RetroGuy2000 Julie,Julie Anne,&Felice 4Ever Forum Star Join Date: Dec 27, 2013 Posts: 16,914	I think this is a pretty good theory. It explains why Carol and Penny look nothing alike, have different last names, and even possibly why Carol doesn't seem remotely upset when Penny disappears from the family.
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01-11-2015, 01:54 PM	#8
tlc38tlc38 Every day’s a Dolly day! Forum Star Join Date: May 02, 2008 Location: I’m just travelin’ thru Posts: 19,255	I liked Penny (Patrika Darbo) on SBS. I think her character could've been fleshed out more to give her an actual storyline instead of just a man hungry woman. She did have that one episode where she was getting serious about the mortician. I'm kinda of glad that Ivy (Peggy Rea) left when she did because she went on to play Jean on "Grace Under Fire" and I liked that character a lot more than Ivy.
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01-11-2015, 10:41 AM	#7
Furienna Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Oct 22, 2006 Location: Örnsköldsvik, Sweden Posts: 6,277	Yeah, that could be it. Too bad though that both Penny and Ivy disappeared after just one season, never to be seen again. I mean, they could at least have made some cameos!

03-03-2015, 06:47 PM	#9
Blackout Sart Bimpson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 13, 2003 Location: where the sun rises Posts: 2,235	to me they added nothing and took away lines from the better characters

03-03-2015, 07:35 PM	#10
Furienna Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Oct 22, 2006 Location: Örnsköldsvik, Sweden Posts: 6,277	Now, now... I think you are way too hard on them. It might seem like they "added nothing", but I wonder if that wasn't only because they never were given that much to do. There were so many characters on the show in the beginning, and it seems like Penny and Ivy were the ones to get the short end of the stick.

03-05-2015, 05:33 PM	#11
Blackout Sart Bimpson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 13, 2003 Location: where the sun rises Posts: 2,235	but isn't that a blessing in disguise? it gave us so many more memorable moments with JT and the gang

03-05-2015, 07:34 PM	#12
Furienna Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Oct 22, 2006 Location: Örnsköldsvik, Sweden Posts: 6,277	Yeah, I guess that they were the ones, who had to go. But still, it would have been nice if they had turned up for a visit now and then, at least in a Christmas episode or something like that.

03-06-2015, 04:00 AM	#14
Furienna Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Oct 22, 2006 Location: Örnsköldsvik, Sweden Posts: 6,277	Yes, I'm originally from Sweden. But our TV networks have aired many American TV shows.