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It was confirmed today.
![]() ME: Remains Found In Latimer County Identified As Family Missing Since 2009 Posted: Thursday, July 3, 2014 1:00 PM EDT Updated: Thursday, July 3, 2014 1:01 PM EDT LATIMER COUNTY, Oklahoma - The Oklahoma State Medical Examiner has positively identified the remains of three people found in rural Latimer County last November. The ME says the remains are those of Bobby and Sherilyn Jamison and their 6-year-old daughter, Madyson Stormy Star Jamison. Deer hunters found the remains on November 16, 2013, less than three miles from where the family disappeared in October of 2009. The family hadn't been seen since October 9, 2009 when they were looking at land for a possible purchase. The family's truck was found in the area, but no one ever found any sign of them. The ME says the cause of death is unknown, because of incomplete skeletal remains, and the manner of death is unknown, as well. The ME says the final report on the case is not yet ready for release. http://www.newson6.com/story/2593601...ing-since-2009 |
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Another report:
Officials Identify Bones Found in Latimer County as Missing Family Posted: Thursday, July 3, 2014 2:02 PM EDT Updated: Thursday, July 3, 2014 2:02 PM EDT Oklahoma authorities confirmed the identities of skeletal remains this week that were discovered in a rural area of Latimer County. Officials with the Oklahoma Medical Examiner's Office stated that the remains belonged to Bobby and Sherilyn Jamison and their 6-year-old daughter Madyson. Both were originally reported missing in 2009. Previous reports from KTUL state that hunters discovered the remains near Kinta. This was about 2.7 miles northwest of where a pickup was found that allegedly belonged to the family. Initial information from witnesses state that the family disappeared while looking for a plot of land that was for sale in the Sansbois Mountains. Oklahoma officials were not able to provide a cause or manner of death at this time. http://www.ktul.com/story/25936483/o...missing-family |
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I am saddened but mostly baffled. What the hell happened? Did they just up and wander around until they died of exposure? Or was it something more sinister?
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Of course it's awful that Bobby and Sherilyn are gone, but I keep thinking of poor little Madyson . . . only 6 years old.
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Another update, BBM:
ME: Cause Of Death Of Latimer County Family Missing Since 2009 Unknown Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:16 PM EDT Updated: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 5:38 PM EDT LATIMER COUNTY, Oklahoma - The Oklahoma State Medical Examiner was not able to identify a cause of death for a Latimer County family whose skeletal remains were found four years after they disappeared. Earlier in the month, the ME positively identified the remains of Bobby and Sherilynn Jamison and their 6-year-old daughter, Madyson Stormy Star Jamison. Deer hunters found the remains on November 16, 2013, less than three miles from where the family disappeared in October of 2009. Authorities said the family disappeared while they were looking at land for a possible purchase. The ME said he could not determine the a cause or manner of death for the three. He said he could find no evidence of trauma done to the remains at the time of death, but because the remains were just bones, he could not rule that out. The report also said disease could not be ruled out. The ME did, however, find that the deaths occurred under suspicious circumstances. The bones showed evidence of post-mortem damage due to animals, according to the report. http://www.newson6.com/story/2602582...e-2009-unknown |
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Another article:
Medical Examiner Unable to Determine Cause of Death for Family Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:33 PM EDT Updated: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:33 PM EDT Posted by: Juan Sanchez - email Officials at the state medical examiner's office released reports this week for human remains that belonged to a family that went missing in 2013. Oklahoma authorities were able to link the remains to Bobby and Sherilyn Jamison and their 6-year-old daughter Madyson earlier this month. Those remains were turned over to the Oklahoma Medical Examiner's officer to determine a manner of death. Documents obtained by KTUL state that the medical examiner found "postmortem carnivore damage" on areas of the remains that were found. Because of the damage found, a cause and manner of death was not able to be determined. Officials found damage on all the remains that were recovered for each individual that went missing in October of 2009. Previous reports from KTUL state that hunters discovered the remains near Kinta. This was about 2.7 miles northwest of where a pickup was found that allegedly belonged to the family. Initial information from witnesses state that the family disappeared while looking for a plot of land that was for sale in the Sansbois Mountains. http://www.ktul.com/story/26034122/m...ath-for-family |
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Autopsies inconclusive in Oklahoma family's deaths July 16, 2014 KINTA, Okla. — Autopsy results were inconclusive for a family whose remains were found by hunters in a wooded area four years after they disappeared in rural Oklahoma, the state Medical Examiner's Office said. Bobby Jamison, Sherilyn Jamison and 6-year-old Madyson Stormy Jamison were last seen in October 2009 near the San Bois Mountains while scouting for land to purchase. There was no sign of the family until last November, when hunters discovered their skeletal remains in southeastern Oklahoma, about 3 miles from where they were last spotted. In a report, Dr. Joshua Lanter, the deputy chief medical examiner, listed the cause of death for each family member as unknown, noting there were no signs of trauma that would have caused their deaths, according to news reports. However, the report said medical examiners were unable to exclude trauma or natural disease because the bodies had decomposed and there was carnivore or rodent damage to the bones. Shoes that apparently belonged to the couple and child were recovered. A dried flower was found with Madyson's effects, and with Bobby's effects "a fragment of a flexible material with a cloth material on one side" was found, the report said. Investigators said at the time that there was no sign of foul play in the family's disappearance and that it appeared the family planned to return to their truck, which they had parked as they went to look at a 40-acre plot of land. Authorities said a wallet, purse, cell phones, cash and Madyson's small dog were found inside the truck. http://www.enidnews.com/localnews/x1...familys-deaths |
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Sad.
BBM: Family remembered at service Couple, daughter had been missing since 2009 By E.I. Hillin Phoenix Staff Writer July 20, 2014 EUFAULA — It was a small, quiet funeral service Saturday celebrating the lives of three members of the Jamison family. Bobby Dale Jamison, 44, Sherrilynn L. Jamison, 40, and Madyson Stormy Star Jamison, 6, went missing in 2009. Their remains were positively identified earlier this month. The family members of the deceased sat silently on the front two rows inside the Kelley Memorial Chapel of Hunn, Black & Merritt Funeral Home. Mazzy, the small dog who was found inside Jamison’s abandoned pickup, sat with the family during the service. “Butterfly Kisses,” a song describing the relationship between a father and his daughter as she grows into a woman, played during the beginning of the service. The song was a painful reminder of an experience that Madyson and Bobby Jamsion will never know. Charla Heffley, a cousin of Bobby Jamison, said the funeral would provide some closure for the family. “It’s better than wondering if you’re going to get a phone call or bad things are happening to them,” Heffley said. When Bobby, Sherrilyn and Madyson disappeared, they had been looking to buy land in the mountainous area near Red Oak in Latimer County. “He was an outdoors person,” Heffley said. “That’s one reason he was in Eufaula and one reason they were out at that mountain.” The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation said hunters discovered skeletal remains and pieces of clothing in Latimer County in November 2013. The remains were found less than three aerial miles northwest of where the Jamisons’ truck was found when they disappeared in 2009. Although the state medical examiner’s office was able to identify their remains, the Jamison family’s cause of death is undetermined. Three framed photos were placed at the front of the chapel facing the Jamison’s family and friends who attended the service. One was Bobby and Sherrilyn Jamison smiling with their arms around each other. One photo was of Madyson smiling, with a princess crown placed beside it. The third photograph was all three of the Jamisons smiling, together, beneath a tree. “They were always fun to be around,” Heffley said. Family and friends were able to laugh, hug, and play with Mazzy after the service concluded. For them, the service may be a conclusion to what Heffley said was “a long, crazy ride.” “It’s better knowing,” Heffley said. “Life can go on a lot better.” http://www.muskogeephoenix.com/local...red-at-service
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I watched this case on disappeared not too long ago.
It's so sad that they have been found yet the family are still no closer to finding out any answers of what happened to them. I find it hard to believe that all 3 perished because of exposure? Am I the only one who thinks the chances of that happening are pretty low? I mean would that not mean they were lost their for a few days till they succumbed to the elements? A few days an they only ended up 2.7 miles away from the car? Hmmmm what the temp rise to there and fall to on a night? I also don't find it strange in the slightest that they were packing the stuff into the car and didn't speak or acknowledge each other. I've done it lots of time to my family because we are all so busy doing jobs what can you possibly say while passing each other. Still a very sad sad case and I don't think we will ever get an answers. |
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Witchcraft, white supremacists, meth labs or a family grudge? Inside America's most bizarre unsolved murder mystery five years after husband, wife and daughter, six, vanished in remote mountains By Will Payne In Eufaula, Oklahoma Published: 07:36 EST, 22 July 2014 | Updated: 10:06 EST, 22 July 2014 Five years ago Bobby Jamison, Sherilyn Jamison and their six-year-old daughter Madyson mysteriously vanished. It wasn't until more than four years later that their decimated, skeletal remains were found on a remote Oklahoma mountainside, lying side-by-side, face down in the dirt, three miles from their abandoned truck. On Saturday their loved ones held a memorial for the family. The modest but emotional ceremony may have given their family and friends a scrap of comfort - but it did little to end their torment. They still have no real idea what happened to their loved ones in a case that has become one of America’s most bizarre murder mysteries. The list of reasons why the Jamisons could have been killed is dizzying. Was the tragedy linked to witchcraft, white supremacists, a drug deal gone wrong, a relative with a grudge with ties to the Mexican mafia, or did they stumble across a meth lab and pay the ultimate price? Or was it a brutal murder-suicide, brought on by Sherilyn’s crippling depression following the tragic death of her sister two years earlier? Others have said, more simply, they just wandered off, got lost and died of hyperthermia. The police have said they haven't been able to 'completely eliminate anything'. Earlier this month the medical examiner ruled their cause of death as inconclusive after their remains were found in November. But speaking to MailOnline, their friends and family said they are sure of one thing - their deaths were not accidental. ‘There’s no way they just wandered off and got lost’, Sherilyn's mother Connie Kokotan told MailOnline. ‘What I truly believe is that they went up there, saw something they shouldn’t and were murdered by someone. Who that was, I just don’t know. 'The way their truck was left, it looks like it had been forced to stop by someone. Everyone round here knows there are lots of evil people up in those mountains. It’s where outlaws like Jesse James used to hide out. It’s so isolated; I’m scared to go up there.’ Sherilyn’s surviving son, Colton, 19, her best friend Niki Shenold and Bobby’s mother Starlet all agree with Connie and believe the Jamison’s were murdered. The family travelled up to the isolated Sans Bois Mountains from their home in nearby Eufaula in early October 2009 looking to buy a 40 acre plot of land. After a few years of living in a lakefront property they made a decision to make a fresh start, and move to the wilderness. On their first trip into the mountains in search of a suitable plot of land, they spoke to a local man, who said the family seemed in good spirits. The next day they loaded up their truck again, but this time never returned. Eight days later, their white pick-up was found abandoned on the side of the road. Bobby, 44, Sherilyn, 40 and little Madyson were nowhere to be seen. In the locked truck were the couple’s phones, car keys, GPS, and $32,000 in cash. They even left behind Madyson’s beloved dog Maisy, who was found inside the vehicle on the edge of starvation. Latimer Country Sheriff Israel Beauchamp at first thought the truck had been stolen, but swiftly realized something far more serious had taken place. He launched a huge search operation and scoured the area with around 100 men, dogs, horses and a drone. They found nothing. The local Sheriff’s department and FBI agents spent months chasing down leads and questioning potential suspects but, agonisingly for the family, everything they tried led to a dead end. Since their disappearance, there have been no arrests connected to the case and there are no suspects. Speaking after the disappearance, Sheriff Beauchamp summed it up, saying: 'A lot of investigators would love to have as many leads as we do. The problem is they point in so many different directions.' Here, MailOnline sets out some of the theories, some wild, some compelling, but all unproven, that could explain why this free-spirited family were wiped out. Witchcraft, 'spiritual warfare' and possession The family’s pastor Gary Brandon gave a shocking statement to police during the initial investigation. He said the family had been involved in 'spiritual warfare’ and that both Bobby and Sherilyn had told him they had seen spirits at their home. Sherilyn said the spirits of a long-dead family lived with them and that their daughter Madyson spoke with the youngest apparition. At one point, Bobby asked his pastor - who has since left the area and spoken to no one involved in the case - whether he could obtain 'special bullets' to shoot the spirits. He later said he had consulted the 'satanic Bible' to rid the property of the evil presence. A 'witch’s bible' was found in the house after their disappearance. Then bizarre messages were found scrawled on the side of the container the family had planned to move into, sitting outside their house. One read: '3 cats killed to date buy people in this area … Witches don’t like there (sic) black cat killed'. Niki, 41, who has put her life on hold for the last five years to dedicate her time to the search effort, said Sherilyn’s cats had been poisoning their cats so wrote on the container to ‘scare them off’. ‘She was interested in witches, we both were,’ said Niki. ‘Years before, we bought matching witch’s bibles. We put them on our coffee tables as a bit of a joke. That’s what the police found. ‘But in all seriousness, that house was haunted. I don’t want to sound crazy, but whenever I went there I felt a horrible presence, I would leave feeling so down and depressed, it’s hard to describe. 'Once I was in the living room and this sort of grey mist descended down the stairs. It really scared me. ‘She told me on a couple of occasions, Bobby – who was the such a gentle man - would suddenly come at her and his eyes would be completely dead and black, like he was possessed.’ Niki, who doesn’t believe witchcraft was behind the deaths, added: ‘Sherilyn would leave notes round the house, saying, "get out Satan" and stuff like that. It was her way of dealing with things.’ Connie, 64, never took her daughter seriously when she called herself a ‘witch’ but said that Sherilyn had told her that the house was haunted. ‘She definitely started trying to find out whether it was built on an Indian burial ground. I do not know what she discovered,’ said Connie. An abandoned wreck of a vehicle was found near where the family vanished. Locals used it for shooting practice and written on its shell were satanic messages. Niki claims that Sherilyn had written over the messages with phrases like ‘God Love You’ and ‘Peace’. ‘She obviously did it on the day they were up there,’ said Niki. ‘Maybe someone saw her and got really angry because she was writing over their messages? It wouldn’t surprise me up there.’ Drugs, meth labs, white supremacists and did they see too much? Bobby and Sherilyn were both incredibly thin and emaciated when they went missing and it led to speculation that they were hooked on crystal meth. The couple were caught on a security camera outside their house on the day they left in a ‘trance-like state’. They didn’t speak to each other as they made dozens of trips to and from the house to pack up their truck. From their behavior on the video, police suspected that they may have been on drugs. But after searches in their house and property they found no evidence they were taking meth or any other illegal substances. Connie said: 'They were not taking meth, there is no way. How could they have looked after little Madyson if they were? They were good parents and they would not have been capable of that if they were on meth.' Starlet and Niki are also certain Bobby and Sherilyn were clean at the time of their disappearance. But the bag of money found in the truck also led to suggestions that the couple, who were struggling financially, died in a drug deal turned sour. Niki admitted it was not inconceivable that they had got mixed up in some kind of deal to ease their money worries. She explained: 'A few months before they went missing, Sherilyn’s son Colton moved back to Oklahoma City to live with his dad. 'Prior to that they had been getting child support payments, but they lost those, so they were struggling to keep up with the repayments on the house. 'It’s possible they thought they would do some kind of one off deal to get them back on track and maybe that’s what they were doing up there.' When police went through the personal belongings the Jamisons left in their truck, they found bobby's phone. On it was the final picture of Madyson, taken up on the mountain. Neither Connie, Niki or Starlet believe it was taken by Madyson's parents. Starlet said: 'In the picture Madyson is looking away from the camera, she looks unhappy and she has her arms crossed. She loved having her picture taken and if that had been Bobby or Sherilyn behind the camera, she would not have looked like that.' But if they weren't doing a drug deal, could the Jamisons have walked into one? The remote Sans Bois mountain range has a reputation for being a haven for meth labs, where criminals cooked up the drug miles from prying eyes. Starlet, 67, said: 'There are lots of them up there. It is well known. Maybe they stumbled across one of them when they were there and someone came after them?' Connie added: 'I don’t know all the details, but I can tell you Bobby had recently gone to police to report someone in the local area for running a meth lab. Obviously that person is going to be very upset.' Niki said that after she launched her campaign to find out what happened to the Jamisons, she was contacted by an anonymous woman who made terrifying claims. The tipster told Niki that she had been involved with a group called the United White Knights and that Bobby and Sherilyn were on their “hit list”. At first Niki was impressed by corroborating evidence, but later dismissed the claim. Yet, she has not completely ruled out that other groups or cults - who exploit the isolation of the mountains - could be to blame. She said: 'I went up to those mountains about a year later and near where the bodies were found, there was a line of cars parked with Texas licence plates. When we got near the actual spot there were a couple of gun shots. They sounded like warning shots to me. 'I don't scare easily, but that place really freaks me out. There is something not right about it.' A family grudge and a link to the 'Mexican mafia' Bobby's father Bob died of natural causes just two months after the Jamison's disappeared. Prior to his passing, aged 64, he had a long running feud with his son. It came to legal action when Bobby accused his father of reneging on an agreement to give him half the proceeds from the sale of a gas station he owned. Starlet explained: 'Bob used to get Bobby to work at the gas station. He even used to pull him out of school so he could help out. 'It was always on the understanding Bobby would get half the money from any sale. That didn't happen, so Bobby fought for his money and it all turned a bit ugly. 'I don't want to turn Bob into some kind of monster, but he did threaten the family. We had split up by that stage and I moved in with Bobby and Sherilyn for a bit. ‘There were a few confrontations and we were worried, so I installed security cameras at the house.' Connie also had concerns about Bob senior. She said: 'Sherilyn and Bobby were scared of Bob. He had a temper and he had money. There were also rumors he had connections to the Mexican Mafia. That's what I had been told.' Bobby's father was not the only person who seemed to have a grudge against the family. Police thought they had made a major break-through when they discovered, not long before their disappearance, Sherilyn had pointed a gun at a man who lived with them as a boarder and forced him out of the house. 'Sherilyn has Indian blood in her and this guy was saying he hated Indians and anyone who wasn’t white', explained Connie. 'Sherilyn wanted to protect Madyson, so she got her gun and made this guy leave.' Officers treated the man as their first real suspect, but when they questioned him he gave them an alibi, ruling him out of the investigation. Did depression lead to a murder-suicide? Could Sherilyn and Bobby, who both suffered from severe depression throughout their lives, had taken their own lives and killed little Madyson? Or did Sherilyn - who had bi-polar disorder, did not always take her prescribed medicine and sank into black moods - wipe out her family on her own? When police searched the abandoned pick-up they discovered an 11-page, spiteful letter written by Sherilyn to her husband, dripping with hate and resentment. On top of that, her .22 pistol had gone missing. Niki tried to explain the letter away. She said: 'It was her form of therapy. She would write things down when they came into her mind, but then she would move on. She loved Bobby.' Colton lived with his mother, Bobby and half-sister Madyson most of his life, only moving in with his real father a few months before the disappearance. He noticed a dramatic decline in his mother's frame of mind in the weeks before he moved out. He said she was ‘really down and moody’ and would stay in her room a lot. He added: 'I did meet up with mom a few weeks before they went missing and she seemed a little better, like she was trying to turn things around. 'But the thing I find so strange is they never mentioned anything about moving out to the mountains to me. They didn't say anything.' Connie explained how her other daughter, Sherilyn's sister, Marla died in a freak accident in 2007 after she was stung on the tongue by a bee. 'Marla was not just her sister, she was her best friend as well’, said Connie. ‘Her death absolutely devastated Sherilyn. She would spend days up in her room. She was very depressed and had to take medication. 'It obviously caused a lot of strain on the marriage. They argued, but then all couples do.' Starlet went further and said Sherilyn was a completely different person when she was experiencing one of her manic episodes. She said: 'She became incredibly angry and spiteful sometimes. She was jealous of my relationship with Madyson and of my relationship with Bobby. 'The last time I actually spoke to Bobby was in April 2009, because she banned me from speaking to him on the phone. 'Bobby loved her and he suffered because of her moods. There was a time when I tried to get him and Madyson to move away to Oklahoma City. But really, I would never have wanted to split them up. They had their difficulties, but they loved each other very much.' Bobby was not without his own problems, both physical and mental. He was in a terrible car wreck in 2003, which terribly badly damaged his back and left him in constant pain. Starlet said: 'That and the problems with his dad left him depressed.' But the family believe that moving into the mountains was a fresh start, a way of putting their troubles behind them. Did they get lost? After the bodies were found last November they were sent away for months of analysis, firstly to determine if they belonged to the Jamison family and secondly to establish a cause of death. The family thought they would finally get some answers, but agonisingly, the remains were so decimated that the results were inconclusive. Bobby had a large hole in the back of his skull, but it was impossible to determine what had caused it. Officials began to suggest the family may have wandered from their car, got lost in thick woodland and died of hyperthermia. But Colton said: 'That just doesn’t make any sense. Bobby grew up in the country and I mean proper country, he knew nature and he knew what he was doing out there. No way would he have got them lost like that.' Connie added: 'If that happened, then why were they lying face down, all together like that? Also, why did they leave the dog in the car? Madyson loved that dog and didn’t go anywhere without it, she wouldn’t have just left her in the car.' Starlet has desperately tried to believe the theory, but in her mind it just defies logic. She said: 'Their bodies were found about three miles from the truck, but that’s as the crow flies. 'When you’re going round and about and up and down it’s nearer to seven. No way could they have made it over that ground, especially with Bobby’s back.' 'Bobby would get in pain walking round the house, let alone covering that kind of ground’, Niki added. ‘I do not believe they left the truck by choice.' Every life the Jamisons touched has been forever affected by whatever took place back in October 2009. But it isn’t just the loss of the mother, father and little granddaughter that makes it hurt so much. It is the lack of knowing. Even Israel Beachamp, the Sheriff at the time of the disappearance, hasn’t been the same since. He quit his position in 2011. Niki claims he told her that he couldn’t stand the guilt he felt at not being able to find little Madyson. He now works overseas. The new Sheriff of Latimer County, Jesse James was unavailable to speak to MailOnline, but it's believed the police don't have any new leads or avenues of investigation. The trail is dead. In that vacuum wild theories have emerged. But, if after an investigation spanning five years their deaths are not so easy to explain - perhaps the truth really does hide in the strangest of explanations. But for their family and friends, the speculation and the torment continues. 'I would give anything to find out the truth and I don’t think this is over', said Niki. 'But I have spent so much time searching, I just don’t know where else to look.' If you have information about Bobby, Sherilyn and Madyson Jamison, contact Latimer County Sherif's Office on (918)465-2021. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mountains.html
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