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MegtheEgg86 · 09-03-2009, 03:46 PM

Trying to remember a segment about an African-American woman from somewhere in northern Virginia within the D.C. metro area (Fairfax?). She traveled to another city to do some shopping the next day, and her husband either murdered her himself or had an accomplice kill her in the Holiday Inn room she had checked into while on her trip. I think it was eventually discovered her husband had actually killed another woman as well. I remember the murder transpiring somewhere around 1977 or '78.

Also, did CCF ever profile a case about a couple of jewelry store robbers that murdered a young woman working in one in some small town in Oklahoma? It's been a long time since I've seen it, so I'm pretty hazy on the details.

TracyLynnS · 09-05-2009, 07:13 PM

I remember both cases, but can't remember the names of the episodes. So, I guess I'm no help with getting the names of the victims and perps for you, but at least I remember those cases, too.

The woman who was murdered by her husband... It seems like he inherited money from her insurance and bought a fancy car and a bunch of expensive clothes quite soon after her murder. Neighbors/acquaintances thought he was acting odd for a husband who was supposed to be grieving the death of his beautiful young wife.

The one where the young woman was murdered in the jewelry store, about 1980... I do remember that there were two robbers. Seems like a fingerprint or palmprint or maybe blood left on the broken jewelry display cases helped find the killers so many years later. I think one of the guys had just busted through the glass with his bare hands, cutting himself, and leaving behind the evidence which was eventually used to identify him using more advanced scientific techniques. I think the chief of police or lead detective knew the victim and her family, and when he got the call about the incident at the jewelry store, he was dreading knowing that he would probably find her there, murdered.

MegtheEgg86 · 09-05-2009, 10:41 PM

Those are exactly the segments, Tracy! At least someone else has seen them, then.

I'd totally forgotten about the forensic evidence left on the glass case--that was the biggest factor in the investigation. I remember being amazed at how much time had passed between the crime (I think it happened around '79 or '80) and the eventual capture of the perpetrator on just that small bit of evidence alone--it was only a very small sample, IIRC (I seem to remember it as being a blood/palm print combo, but I'm not certain). In any event, good to know someone caught those segments, too.

wiseguy182 · 03-18-2013, 02:56 AM

both of those cases appeared on the same episode: "A Knock At The Door/Shattered".

MegtheEgg86 · 03-18-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wiseguy182

both of those cases appeared on the same episode: "A Knock At The Door/Shattered".

Thanks!

Clytemnestra · 04-02-2013, 05:49 PM

I am glad I found this thread as I have a couple of cases I forgot and wanted to remember again. Does anyone remember the case where a guy found a body but he was really the killer so he knew where it was? I think the victim was a guy and there was possibly a gay angle.

Also another case that I think was from Cold case (but not 100% sure) was where a deranged neighbor attempted to murder members of the family next door by poisoning their drinks. I also remember a female cop went undercover and went to a murder mystery weekend thing with the killer.

MegtheEgg86 · 04-02-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Clytemnestra

Also another case that I think was from Cold case (but not 100% sure) was where a deranged neighbor attempted to murder members of the family next door by poisoning their drinks. I also remember a female cop went undercover and went to a murder mystery weekend thing with the killer.

I'm not sure if was on CCF, but that story was definitely on Forensic Files and American Justice (and probably others). It described the 1988 poisoning of the Carr family of Polk County, Florida by their neighbor George Trepal, who gave them a six-pack of bottled Coca-Cola laced with thallium and ended up killing the family matriarch, Peggy. Trepal and his wife were Mensa members, and the undercover detective actually infiltrated their chapter. There was also a book written about the case called Poison Mind.

wiseguy182 · 04-03-2013, 01:22 AM

American Justice (Notorious) episode - "Kill Thy Neighbor"

wiseguy182 · 02-09-2014, 12:35 AM

some more info about the Cold Case Files episode "A Knock At The Door/Shattered"

-Regarding the woman who was murdered in the hotel room in Virginia, the cops investigating the case put up photographs of all the victims of unsolved crime in the county in their office. They show a few close-ups of other victims and 2 of those are none other than Rachel Raver and Warren Fulton, whose cases were still unsolved as of that point. Thankfully, all of those crimes were eventually solved and they were able to take down the photographs. The murder of the young lady at the hotel was particularly cold-blooded as he didn't care at all about his wife, but instead immediately went on to live life in the lap of luxury with the proceeds from her life insurance payouts. Revolting. It was soooooo obvious he was guilty because once he realized the police had the evidence, he kept calling them to gauge how much time he would get and where. Hopefully that scumbag never gets out.

-The murder of the young lady at the jewerly store happened in San Angelo, TX. During his confession, the murderer (one of them) got some of the facts wrong, and police eventually realized he was confusing another similar murder they did in Abilene, where another young person, this time a man, was murdered. After the confession, he was convicted, and the other murderer was already dead.

09-03-2009, 03:46 PM	#1
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	Cold Case Files Episode IDs Trying to remember a segment about an African-American woman from somewhere in northern Virginia within the D.C. metro area (Fairfax?). She traveled to another city to do some shopping the next day, and her husband either murdered her himself or had an accomplice kill her in the Holiday Inn room she had checked into while on her trip. I think it was eventually discovered her husband had actually killed another woman as well. I remember the murder transpiring somewhere around 1977 or '78. Also, did CCF ever profile a case about a couple of jewelry store robbers that murdered a young woman working in one in some small town in Oklahoma? It's been a long time since I've seen it, so I'm pretty hazy on the details.
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03-18-2013, 02:56 AM	#4
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	both of those cases appeared on the same episode: "A Knock At The Door/Shattered".
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09-05-2009, 07:13 PM	#2
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	I remember both cases, but can't remember the names of the episodes. So, I guess I'm no help with getting the names of the victims and perps for you, but at least I remember those cases, too. The woman who was murdered by her husband... It seems like he inherited money from her insurance and bought a fancy car and a bunch of expensive clothes quite soon after her murder. Neighbors/acquaintances thought he was acting odd for a husband who was supposed to be grieving the death of his beautiful young wife. The one where the young woman was murdered in the jewelry store, about 1980... I do remember that there were two robbers. Seems like a fingerprint or palmprint or maybe blood left on the broken jewelry display cases helped find the killers so many years later. I think one of the guys had just busted through the glass with his bare hands, cutting himself, and leaving behind the evidence which was eventually used to identify him using more advanced scientific techniques. I think the chief of police or lead detective knew the victim and her family, and when he got the call about the incident at the jewelry store, he was dreading knowing that he would probably find her there, murdered.

09-05-2009, 10:41 PM	#3
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	Those are exactly the segments, Tracy! At least someone else has seen them, then. I'd totally forgotten about the forensic evidence left on the glass case--that was the biggest factor in the investigation. I remember being amazed at how much time had passed between the crime (I think it happened around '79 or '80) and the eventual capture of the perpetrator on just that small bit of evidence alone--it was only a very small sample, IIRC (I seem to remember it as being a blood/palm print combo, but I'm not certain). In any event, good to know someone caught those segments, too.

04-02-2013, 05:49 PM	#6
Clytemnestra Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 10, 2010 Posts: 49	I am glad I found this thread as I have a couple of cases I forgot and wanted to remember again. Does anyone remember the case where a guy found a body but he was really the killer so he knew where it was? I think the victim was a guy and there was possibly a gay angle. Also another case that I think was from Cold case (but not 100% sure) was where a deranged neighbor attempted to murder members of the family next door by poisoning their drinks. I also remember a female cop went undercover and went to a murder mystery weekend thing with the killer.

04-03-2013, 01:22 AM	#8
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	American Justice (Notorious) episode - "Kill Thy Neighbor"

02-09-2014, 12:35 AM	#9
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	some more info about the Cold Case Files episode "A Knock At The Door/Shattered" -Regarding the woman who was murdered in the hotel room in Virginia, the cops investigating the case put up photographs of all the victims of unsolved crime in the county in their office. They show a few close-ups of other victims and 2 of those are none other than Rachel Raver and Warren Fulton, whose cases were still unsolved as of that point. Thankfully, all of those crimes were eventually solved and they were able to take down the photographs. The murder of the young lady at the hotel was particularly cold-blooded as he didn't care at all about his wife, but instead immediately went on to live life in the lap of luxury with the proceeds from her life insurance payouts. Revolting. It was soooooo obvious he was guilty because once he realized the police had the evidence, he kept calling them to gauge how much time he would get and where. Hopefully that scumbag never gets out. -The murder of the young lady at the jewerly store happened in San Angelo, TX. During his confession, the murderer (one of them) got some of the facts wrong, and police eventually realized he was confusing another similar murder they did in Abilene, where another young person, this time a man, was murdered. After the confession, he was convicted, and the other murderer was already dead.