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tvcrazed · 08-11-2009, 05:12 PM

It's funny but i was expecting/hoping ABC would rerun Shark Tank on Sat night. But I actually thought they might/was hoping they would run a WIPEOUT rerun at 8p then ST. Normally, as you know, I am not a fan of wasting WIPEOUT reruns on Sat night, but since they are not running them during the week and it gets a 1.0 on Sat night, I thought that would be a better lead in to ST then an animated film.

Pavan · 08-12-2009, 04:00 PM

Last week of summer will have two movies, both network television debuts:

Monday, September 14, 2009
8:00pm-11:00pm ABC Monday Movie of the Week "Dreamgirls"

Sunday, September 20, 2009
7:00pm-11:00pm ABC Sunday Movie of the Week "King Kong"

mtlguy · 08-21-2009, 07:51 PM

Defying Gravity is moving to Fridays in Canada on CTV starting on August 28th. This probably means that ABC is airing the last episode this Sunday or that it will also move to Friday.

Would you know what ABC intends to do Pavan?

Pavan · 08-21-2009, 11:54 PM

ABC hasn't announced anything. It is still slated to air Sundays at 10 through Sept. 13.

tvcrazed · 08-26-2009, 12:28 PM

Shaq did well last night considering it's up against 2 huge reality hits. PRIMETIME has been tanking all SUMMER. Shaq had 1.7 and last night PRIMETIME got a 1.1. I really wonder why ABC doesn't use this 10pm slot better. Next week. I'd rerun this past week's Shaq at 10p. Clearly some people are watching it against much compeption. Even if it holds the 1.7 from 9pm that's better than a 1.1. Either that or another Shark Tank. I know this will never happen, just my 2 cents. Plus ABC is using a lot of promo slots for PREIMTIME and it doesn't deliver.

Pavan · 08-26-2009, 01:19 PM

ABC News Special: Remembering Ted Kennedy airs tonight at 10pm instead of Primetime: Crime. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/20...ule-notes.html

Primetime: Crime has done decent, tvcrazed. The Outsiders is a bit low though. Family Secrets did OK, but helped by Michael Jackson a few times.

tvcrazed · 08-26-2009, 01:34 PM

Maybe I am wrong but outside of a week or two, PRIMETIME:CRIME has been getting a 1.3 most weeks (definitely last week out of WIPEOUT). That slot, in my opinion, could have been put to better use. It's one of very few slots where there is no major competition for ABC and they could schedule or rerun a potential new reality show. (Shark Tank for example which got a .9 on Sat night out of an animated movie, could have benefited for another airing here when there are 2 drama reruns on other nets). Last year PRIMETIME scored well, but it isn't this year and to schedule new potential reality shows against other reality hits when there is a better slot available doesn't make sense to me. SHARK TANK airs against one of the highest rated shows of the week 18-49 period. TRUE BLOOD got a 2.8 this past SUNDAY and still ST did decently. All I am saying is another play wouldn't hurt here. SHAQ is doing very decently considering it's had little promotion and airs against 2 big reality hits. It's not as if those PRIMETIME's are dated. they can be saved for later use. It seems that MEDICAL MYSTERIES and WWYD are the better rated PRIMETIME franchises.

Pavan · 08-26-2009, 02:05 PM

I agree with you. I think Crime does better than that though. Primetime: Crime track: 1.6 (Aug. 19), 1.5 (Aug 12), 1.3 (July 29), 1.6 (July 15), 2.0 (July 8), 1.4 (July 1).

It does better than the other Primetime series and it is doing better than last year. I think Shark Tank got a 0.6 for a repeat on Saturday, Aug. 15.

tvcrazed · 08-26-2009, 02:09 PM

guess it changed in the finals

tvcrazed · 08-31-2009, 12:10 PM

ST has been consistent at a 1.8 the last 3 weeks. If I were ABC I would pull DG the next 2 weeks (they clearly aren't running all the episodes now anyway) and air another ST at 10p.

JulieSomoski · 08-31-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tvcrazed

ST has been consistent at a 1.8 the last 3 weeks. If I were ABC I would pull DG the next 2 weeks (they clearly aren't running all the episodes now anyway) and air another ST at 10p.

I agree - a 1.8 is decent for summer but its not going to cut it in the fall. ABC might as well air double episodes on Sundays until the 27th and get it out of the way.

tvcrazed · 08-31-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JulieSomoski

I agree - a 1.8 is decent for summer but its not going to cut it in the fall. ABC might as well air double episodes on Sundays until the 27th and get it out of the way.

Well my thinking is that since it grows during the hour, it could grow even more from 10-11pm, not to mention that TRUE BLOOD (which is getting a 2.8 18-49) is not on at 10pm, although TB is not on next week.

But the truth is, if it doesn't grow more than a 1.8, they can't air at it 8p on Tuesday with heavy competition. But this show is a very viable concept and one that there is clearly some audience for, so if it doesn't air in Fall they should air it in Summer. Although if one of ABC's dramas flops this show could do very well following a big sized reality audience like DWTS. It gets a 1.8 by itself growing out of its lead in. I imagine out of a 4.5 it could do close to a 3.

JulieSomoski · 08-31-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tvcrazed

Well my thinking is that since it grows during the hour, it could grow even more from 10-11pm, not to mention that TRUE BLOOD (which is getting a 2.8 18-49) is not on at 10pm, although TB is not on next week.

But the truth is, if it doesn't grow more than a 1.8, they can't air at it 8p on Tuesday with heavy competition. But this show is a very viable concept and one that there is clearly some audience for, so if it doesn't air in Fall they should air it in Summer. Although if one of ABC's dramas flops this show could do very well following a big sized reality audience like DWTS. It gets a 1.8 by itself growing out of its lead in. I imagine out of a 4.5 it could do close to a 3.

I really don't think this show has a shot either way. Getting under 5 million viewers in the summer is not good. It lost audience from its repeat lead-in and isn't going anywhere in terms of ratings. A 1.8 rating is decent, but it'll be against much tougher competition airings on Tuesdays. They'd be better off just airing Dancing recaps in its place.

tvcrazed · 08-31-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JulieSomoski

They'd be better off just airing Dancing recaps in its place.

Which is what I imagine they'll do until V premieres Nov 3rd.

I could also see them using Tues at 8p Sep 29th to rerun one of their new dramas or comedies. I assume the first Friday (9/25) from 8-10p will be reruns of new shows - maybe comedies at 8p and at 9pm FLASH FORWARD, so Tues at 8p that week they could either rerun EASTWICK or FORGOTTEN or another run of the comedies or FF. I guess they will see how their shows perform and if there is potential for growth maybe encore one of those.

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08-11-2009, 05:12 PM	#1291
tvcrazed Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 01, 2008 Location: ny Posts: 952	It's funny but i was expecting/hoping ABC would rerun Shark Tank on Sat night. But I actually thought they might/was hoping they would run a WIPEOUT rerun at 8p then ST. Normally, as you know, I am not a fan of wasting WIPEOUT reruns on Sat night, but since they are not running them during the week and it gets a 1.0 on Sat night, I thought that would be a better lead in to ST then an animated film.

08-21-2009, 07:51 PM	#1293
mtlguy Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 21, 2006 Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada Posts: 143	Defying Gravity is moving to Fridays in Canada on CTV starting on August 28th. This probably means that ABC is airing the last episode this Sunday or that it will also move to Friday. Would you know what ABC intends to do Pavan?

08-21-2009, 11:54 PM	#1294
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,814	ABC hasn't announced anything. It is still slated to air Sundays at 10 through Sept. 13.

08-26-2009, 12:28 PM	#1295
tvcrazed Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 01, 2008 Location: ny Posts: 952	Shaq did well last night considering it's up against 2 huge reality hits. PRIMETIME has been tanking all SUMMER. Shaq had 1.7 and last night PRIMETIME got a 1.1. I really wonder why ABC doesn't use this 10pm slot better. Next week. I'd rerun this past week's Shaq at 10p. Clearly some people are watching it against much compeption. Even if it holds the 1.7 from 9pm that's better than a 1.1. Either that or another Shark Tank. I know this will never happen, just my 2 cents. Plus ABC is using a lot of promo slots for PREIMTIME and it doesn't deliver.

08-26-2009, 01:19 PM	#1296
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,814	ABC News Special: Remembering Ted Kennedy airs tonight at 10pm instead of Primetime: Crime. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/20...ule-notes.html Primetime: Crime has done decent, tvcrazed. The Outsiders is a bit low though. Family Secrets did OK, but helped by Michael Jackson a few times.

08-26-2009, 01:34 PM	#1297
tvcrazed Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 01, 2008 Location: ny Posts: 952	Maybe I am wrong but outside of a week or two, PRIMETIME:CRIME has been getting a 1.3 most weeks (definitely last week out of WIPEOUT). That slot, in my opinion, could have been put to better use. It's one of very few slots where there is no major competition for ABC and they could schedule or rerun a potential new reality show. (Shark Tank for example which got a .9 on Sat night out of an animated movie, could have benefited for another airing here when there are 2 drama reruns on other nets). Last year PRIMETIME scored well, but it isn't this year and to schedule new potential reality shows against other reality hits when there is a better slot available doesn't make sense to me. SHARK TANK airs against one of the highest rated shows of the week 18-49 period. TRUE BLOOD got a 2.8 this past SUNDAY and still ST did decently. All I am saying is another play wouldn't hurt here. SHAQ is doing very decently considering it's had little promotion and airs against 2 big reality hits. It's not as if those PRIMETIME's are dated. they can be saved for later use. It seems that MEDICAL MYSTERIES and WWYD are the better rated PRIMETIME franchises.

08-26-2009, 02:05 PM	#1298
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,814	I agree with you. I think Crime does better than that though. Primetime: Crime track: 1.6 (Aug. 19), 1.5 (Aug 12), 1.3 (July 29), 1.6 (July 15), 2.0 (July 8), 1.4 (July 1). It does better than the other Primetime series and it is doing better than last year. I think Shark Tank got a 0.6 for a repeat on Saturday, Aug. 15.

08-26-2009, 02:09 PM	#1299
tvcrazed Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 01, 2008 Location: ny Posts: 952	guess it changed in the finals

08-31-2009, 12:10 PM	#1300
tvcrazed Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 01, 2008 Location: ny Posts: 952	ST has been consistent at a 1.8 the last 3 weeks. If I were ABC I would pull DG the next 2 weeks (they clearly aren't running all the episodes now anyway) and air another ST at 10p.