ION Television September 2008 -- Boston Legal, M*A*S*H, and NCIS - Page 8 - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

JulieSomoski · 09-24-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffyboy323

Aaaah, I see. I meant to ask if this has happened with any other shows on ION. I guess it has! It makes no sense. If your going to skip episodes for whatever reason, then skip them. But don't skip half of a season, show a few episodes from the following season, then go back and show the other half of the season before. ION is getting just as bad as my local CW and FOX channels.

I don't understand any reason for skipping episodes. They would probably get more viewers by airing the episodes in order, not their order-LOL. I hate it when networks do this - Nick at Nite has done it in the past, although they're getting a little better, by showing episodes in a specific season in order.

clj2 · 09-24-2008, 06:46 PM

Could someone pull up ION's ratings for this time last year? Weren't they around 7-800,000? I remember Mama was on fire and WTB? was doing great too.

If next week doesn't pick up....I don't see them going anywhere with this current format.

Jude The Obscure · 09-24-2008, 06:56 PM

Well, I'm sorry if you think I'm making a judgement Pavan, but the truth is the truth. ION keeps trying new things and nothing seems to work. They want that almighty 18-54 demo to improve but at the cost of turning off the viewers that had been tuning in, in nice numbers. I'm willing to see if the additional BLs will help. If they would stick to something consistent, viewers may stick around.

JulieSomoski · 09-24-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 60s70s80stvfan

Could someone pull up ION's ratings for this time last year? Weren't they around 7-800,000? I remember Mama was on fire and WTB? was doing great too.

If next week doesn't pick up....I don't see them going anywhere with this current format.

They were something around that. But, their entire primetime lineup was doing well at this point.

I could find a few things on google, though:

*The March 2007 lineup with Diagnosis Murder, Mama, and Charlie's Angels (wow, was that awhile ago) averaged 722,000 viewers.

*The Drew Carey Show's ratings for the end of January at 9pm were great, with about a million viewers, doubling the ratings for its premiere week January 1.

*Who's the Boss? launched in July 2007 at 9pm with some of the largest female demographics the network has seen to date.

*Mama's Family was apparently pulling in around 860,000 viewers at 8pm in October 2007, so that would be around this time. Compare this with what NCIS and Boston Legal will be doing in the slot come October.

Pavan · 09-25-2008, 04:38 PM

Get a glimpse of ION in primetime for the top 20 markets for Sunday, Monday and Tuesday:

Sunday with RHI: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/t...5261#897105261

Monday with BL/NCIS/ER: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/t...5261#208105261

Tuesday with ER/NCIS/ER: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/t...5261#508105261

JulieSomoski · 09-25-2008, 04:48 PM

Thanks Pavan!

I'm not sure what to say based on those household numbers. ER seems like a hit and miss when its one - some markets it does well in (Is that 1.8 correct, because that's beyond excellent for ION), and NCIS doesn't seem to be doing as well as it did when it premiered. Boston Legal seems to be doing well, though. It's hard to say, though.

clj2 · 09-25-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jude The Obscure

Well, I'm sorry if you think I'm making a judgement Pavan, but the truth is the truth. ION keeps trying new things and nothing seems to work. They want that almighty 18-54 demo to improve but at the cost of turning off the viewers that had been tuning in, in nice numbers. I'm willing to see if the additional BLs will help. If they would stick to something consistent, viewers may stick around.

You hit the nail on the head. This network can't be consistent with ANYTHING....their name, slogan/logo, programming focus...I cannot defend them at all.

and thanks for that info, Julie!

JulieSomoski · 09-26-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 60s70s80stvfan

You hit the nail on the head. This network can't be consistent with ANYTHING....their name, slogan/logo, programming focus...I cannot defend them at all.

and thanks for that info, Julie!

Anytime! It's all I could find on google!

I think their inconsistency is hurting them. They've changed their name, their brand, and their image so many times that people just don't care anymore. They payed what must have been a huge sum of money to air ER, etc. in primetime, and they aren't doing what they should be doing.

Pavan · 09-26-2008, 03:28 PM

Really ER is part of their Warner library deal, I believe. But with limitations of only seasons 11-14.

JulieSomoski · 09-26-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pavanbadal

Really ER is part of their Warner library deal, I believe. But with limitations of only seasons 11-14.

So they didn't pay anything for it outside the deal?

Pavan · 09-26-2008, 05:07 PM

Not sure, my guess is no. Same for Drew Carey.

JulieSomoski · 09-26-2008, 05:16 PM

I knew Drew Carey was part of the deal, but I wasn't sure if it was for just sitcoms, or for both sitcoms and dramas.

Pavan · 09-26-2008, 11:29 PM

Get a glimpse of ION in primetime for the top 20 markets:

Saturday with RHI movies: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/t...2361#919102361

Wednesday with Grumpier Old Men/ER: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/t...2361#329102361

Thursday with Star Trek 4: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/t...2361#239102361

Jude The Obscure · 09-27-2008, 10:13 AM

Interesting that in some markets, ION does a decent (for them) rating--over 1.0, particularly for the movies, including Star Trek 4.

ER is really a weak link--one market had 0.0/0

Pavan · 10-01-2008, 04:17 PM

Week of Sept. 22-28 HH rating/share and total viewers for ION primetime (8-11p):

0.3/0 HH rating/share and 370,000 total viewers average.

Real test again will be this week (9/29).

09-25-2008, 04:38 PM	#110
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09-24-2008, 06:46 PM	#107
clj2 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 16, 2005 Location: SC Posts: 3,501	Could someone pull up ION's ratings for this time last year? Weren't they around 7-800,000? I remember Mama was on fire and WTB? was doing great too. If next week doesn't pick up....I don't see them going anywhere with this current format.

09-24-2008, 06:56 PM	#108
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,519	Well, I'm sorry if you think I'm making a judgement Pavan, but the truth is the truth. ION keeps trying new things and nothing seems to work. They want that almighty 18-54 demo to improve but at the cost of turning off the viewers that had been tuning in, in nice numbers. I'm willing to see if the additional BLs will help. If they would stick to something consistent, viewers may stick around.

09-25-2008, 04:48 PM	#111
JulieSomoski Roseanne Reboot - March 27! Forum Veteran Join Date: Nov 06, 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,558	Thanks Pavan! I'm not sure what to say based on those household numbers. ER seems like a hit and miss when its one - some markets it does well in (Is that 1.8 correct, because that's beyond excellent for ION), and NCIS doesn't seem to be doing as well as it did when it premiered. Boston Legal seems to be doing well, though. It's hard to say, though.

09-26-2008, 03:28 PM	#114
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,821	Really ER is part of their Warner library deal, I believe. But with limitations of only seasons 11-14.

09-26-2008, 05:07 PM	#116
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,821	Not sure, my guess is no. Same for Drew Carey.

09-26-2008, 05:16 PM	#117
JulieSomoski Roseanne Reboot - March 27! Forum Veteran Join Date: Nov 06, 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,558	I knew Drew Carey was part of the deal, but I wasn't sure if it was for just sitcoms, or for both sitcoms and dramas.

09-26-2008, 11:29 PM	#118
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,821	Get a glimpse of ION in primetime for the top 20 markets: Saturday with RHI movies: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/t...2361#919102361 Wednesday with Grumpier Old Men/ER: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/t...2361#329102361 Thursday with Star Trek 4: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/t...2361#239102361

09-27-2008, 10:13 AM	#119
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,519	Interesting that in some markets, ION does a decent (for them) rating--over 1.0, particularly for the movies, including Star Trek 4. ER is really a weak link--one market had 0.0/0

10-01-2008, 04:17 PM	#120
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,821	Week of Sept. 22-28 HH rating/share and total viewers for ION primetime (8-11p): 0.3/0 HH rating/share and 370,000 total viewers average. Real test again will be this week (9/29).