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Old 08-11-2007, 10:40 PM   #16
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Oh hell yeah it will be. I look forward to it too. I mean, how many sitcoms were developed based on a commercial??????? Hmmmm......

That's a good question...I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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Those reviews are for the old pilot. The new pilot is way different and will introduce the characters better. The original pilot felt like a regular episode, and it will air like for the 5th or 6th episode now.

This show is getting the most buzz...good or bad, but it will get sampled for the premiere, that's for sure. So the new pilot better be really good.
Usually when you have to reshoot a pilot after the show's been picked up, it isn't a good sign though.
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That's a good question...I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Neither can I. I am sure there are sitcoms that came from an obscure idea, but from a commercial? I am sure the answer is zero!
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Usually when you have to reshoot a pilot after the show's been picked up, it isn't a good sign.

You are right about that. I just hope it can be as funny as the commercials.
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You are right about that. I just hope it can be as funny as the commercials.
You would think that making a sitcom would be easy that a Caveman can do it.
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Usually when you have to reshoot a pilot after the show's been picked up, it isn't a good sign though.
True, but they must really believe in it or they wouldn't have picked it up in the first place. I think the premiere will do well. If the new pilot is good, most of the viewers might come back each week.
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Another ABC bomb. Most TV analysts think this might be the first show canceled. It will get a big audience for its debut out of curiosity. After that people will stop watching, and the ratings will go down and down.
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Another ABC bomb. Most TV analysts think this might be the first show canceled. It will get a big audience for its debut out of curiosity. After that people will stop watching, and the ratings will go down and down.
Be specific..."sitcom bomb," you mean, because their dramas are first class and do well...they found two more hits last season in Brothers & Sisters and Ugly Betty (MEN IN TREES and October Road did well, too). And have you seen these new sitcoms? You haven't seen Cavemen or Big Bang, so you can't play favorites until you watch them. I don't do that, and never did. I watch them before I make my judgments.

I thought the original Cavement pilot was OK...I have yet to see the updated one. It had its funny moments, but it could have been better, which looks like they are doing now. Big Bang is very good, but doesn't mean it will last, because last season the best sitcoms quality wise were The Class and Knights of Prosperity, and they are both gone. I hope Big Bang lasts and gets moved to 9:30.
The surprise in quality of the sitcom season is Carpoolers...surprisingly funny!

I don't think Cavemen will be the 1st to get canceled. It certainly has buzz...as you saw in the new poll. New Amsterdam was my pick to be canceled first, but Fox already shelved it for mid-season, before it even aired, lol. So, I'll go with NBC's Life.
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I'll be surprised if this lasts past midseason.
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Who else is looking forward to seeing Cavemen?
I am. The four new shows I'm looking forward to are Back to You, Cavemen, Aliens in America, and Life is Wild.
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I'll check it out, but I'll wait to see if this will turn out to be a one-trick pony....
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Be specific..."sitcom bomb," you mean, because their dramas are first class and do well...they found two more hits last season in Brothers & Sisters and Ugly Betty (MEN IN TREES and October Road did well, too). And have you seen these new sitcoms? You haven't seen Cavemen or Big Bang, so you can't play favorites until you watch them. I don't do that, and never did. I watch them before I make my judgments.

I thought the original Cavement pilot was OK...I have yet to see the updated one. It had its funny moments, but it could have been better, which looks like they are doing now. Big Bang is very good, but doesn't mean it will last, because last season the best sitcoms quality wise were The Class and Knights of Prosperity, and they are both gone. I hope Big Bang lasts and gets moved to 9:30.
The surprise in quality of the sitcom season is Carpoolers...surprisingly funny!

I don't think Cavemen will be the 1st to get canceled. It certainly has buzz...as you saw in the new poll. New Amsterdam was my pick to be canceled first, but Fox already shelved it for mid-season, before it even aired, lol. So, I'll go with NBC's Life.
ABC dramas are fine. It is their sitcoms that are a disaster. You tell me the last sitcom ABC brought to the air that was even close to a hit since 8 Simple Rules all the way back to 2002.

The buzz is a false buzz. It is a curiosity buzz, which is helped by the Geico commericials. It will get a great rating for its debut, and the ratings will dive and dive after people actually see the show. I have not been very far off on the ABC sitcoms. I was the one who said Knights of Prosperity was not going to make it when I saw the pilot last summer. I know you loved Knights, and you have a right to your opinion, but I knew it was not an appealing show. Cavemen is the same thing.

By the way, I have seen the Cavemen pilot and The Big Bang Theory pilot and The Big Bang Theory blows Cavemen away. Not even close in quality. Big Bang is very funny and Cavmen is plain stupid. Carpoolers I have not seen, but will give it a look. I think Samantha Who has a chance to be good. So maybe there is a little hope for an ABC sitcom.
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ABC dramas are fine. It is their sitcoms that are a disaster. You tell me the last sitcom ABC brought to the air that was even close to a hit since 8 Simple Rules all the way back to 2002.

The buzz is a false buzz. It is a curiosity buzz, which is helped by the Geico commericials. It will get a great rating for its debut, and the ratings will dive and dive after people actually see the show. I have not been very far off on the ABC sitcoms. I was the one who said Knights of Prosperity was not going to make it when I saw the pilot last summer. I know you loved Knights, and you have a right to your opinion, but I knew it was not an appealing show. Cavemen is the same thing.

By the way, I have seen the Cavemen pilot and The Big Bang Theory pilot and The Big Bang Theory blows Cavemen away. Not even close in quality. Big Bang is very funny and Cavmen is plain stupid. Carpoolers I have not seen, but will give it a look. I think Samantha Who has a chance to be good. So maybe there is a little hope for an ABC sitcom.
You didn't say sitcoms before. I never said ABC has had a hit for a sitcom lately. But that doesn't mean the shows aren't good. ABC had According to Jim and George Lopez to help develop new sitcoms, while they are mild performers and decent shows, they weren't good shows to create new sitcoms out, that is why shows like Crumbs, Knights of Prosperity didn't really work. I really liked those, too. Hope & Faith was a good show, too...too bad it was on Fridays. It I consider a hit, since in its first season it did good, but dropped off after that in the ratings and in quality.

As for Cavemen, there is now an updated pilot that will tell the character stories more. So, let's hope that is better. I take it you never saw Dinosaurs in the '90s? If they can make it like that series, I'll be very happy. The new pilot will be key, if it is good, viewers will come back...if not, premiere will do well but subsequent episodes will fall. I'm dying to see the updated one.

Carpoolers is pretty damn funny. Samantha Who? is very interesting, but the pilot is not funny I think. But it will work, because you are interested in the story. Applegate will draw.

How did you get to see these pilots (Bang, Cavemen)? Illegal downloads, I'm guessing, lol?

My rankings quality wise for the new sitcoms:
1. Samantha Who? - Excellent
2. Carpoolers - Hilarious
3. Big Bang Theory - Very good
4. Back to You - OK
5. Cavemen - OK (based on original pilot)
6. Aliens in America - OK
(nothing terrible like Happy Hour)

My predictions ratings wise for the new sitcoms:
1. Samantha Who?
2. Big Bang Theory
3. Back to You
4. Cavemen
5. Carpoolers
6. Aliens in America
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I think NCIS and Bones are going to pull the audience in the fall and if Cavemen happens to make it till midseason AI will probably destroy it. It's in a very competitive timeslot. I'll probably check it out at least once just to see what it is. If it isn't any good, ratings after the first episode will fall drastically.
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