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TVFactFan · 04-14-2004, 03:26 PM

show was very close to being cancelled after season one. So just wondering what seperated the first and second season.?

sara · 04-15-2004, 03:45 AM

Well I think they stopped trying to make it a show about both Barney's home and work life. After the 1st season they focused just on the squadroom and the "men of the ol' one two"

InTheCage · 05-23-2005, 03:27 AM

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show was very close to being cancelled after season one. So just wondering what seperated the first and second season.?

I think the show just got better and better with each season. The characters became more defined, and the running jokes --Yemana's coffee, Fish's bladder, Harris's writing career -- developed over time. We watched Wojo mature, and got to know Deitrich's quirks over several seasons. I think the reason the show got better with time was that cast beacame a real ensemble group. And one thing that show had that no other sitcom had was the abillity to bring in periphial characters -- the criminals, or the victims -- which always kept it relevant and fresh. I just wonder if Barney ever did eat the oliveloaf sandwich. I also want to get the "Quarantined" two-part episode.

TVFactFan · 05-29-2005, 12:08 AM

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I think the show just got better and better with each season. The characters became more defined, and the running jokes --Yemana's coffee, Fish's bladder, Harris's writing career -- developed over time. We watched Wojo mature, and got to know Deitrich's quirks over several seasons. I think the reason the show got better with time was that cast beacame a real ensemble group. And one thing that show had that no other sitcom had was the abillity to bring in periphial characters -- the criminals, or the victims -- which always kept it relevant and fresh. I just wonder if Barney ever did eat the oliveloaf sandwich. I also want to get the "Quarantined" two-part episode.

I saw that the show stayed in the top 20 until the 80's. I think I need to watch a Marathon of this show to see if it's really worth watching.

TripperFan · 05-29-2005, 12:12 AM

Yeah - a lot of it had to do with switching the focus from Barney and his wife to more of him in the squadroom and the characters he worked with. I actually felt really badly when they had him divorce - I liked his wife but I guess she didn't want to hang around for a more and more minor role.

I think also, it was like Cheers - an excellent show from day one, but just hadn't caught on with audiences for whatever reason (maybe timeslot, night, what it was up against at the time). By the second season word of mouth caught on.

You'd HAVE to like at least some episodes Solomon. One of my favourites was when one of Wojo's girlfriends bakes "spiked" brownies (with hashish) and he doesn't know and brings them into the squadroom. They all get into them and its just funny to see their reactions - it's not like drunks (I know you're not big on that). Harris turns ghetto, and Jack Soo is priceless. I still laugh to this day when I see that ep and I've seen it at least 20 times.
Apparently, for its time, it was really the most realistic cop show on t.v. until Hillstreet Blues came on. Now they have a cell right there in the squadroom, which isn't the norm, but its done obviously to provide more characters and conflict.

TVFactFan · 05-29-2005, 12:26 AM

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Yeah - a lot of it had to do with switching the focus from Barney and his wife to more of him in the squadroom and the characters he worked with. I actually felt really badly when they had him divorce - I liked his wife but I guess she didn't want to hang around for a more and more minor role.

I think also, it was like Cheers - an excellent show from day one, but just hadn't caught on with audiences for whatever reason (maybe timeslot, night, what it was up against at the time). By the second season word of mouth caught on.

You'd HAVE to like at least some episodes Solomon. One of my favourites was when one of Wojo's girlfriends bakes "spiked" brownies (with hashish) and he doesn't know and brings them into the squadroom. They all get into them and its just funny to see their reactions - it's not like drunks (I know you're not big on that). Harris turns ghetto, and Jack Soo is priceless. I still laugh to this day when I see that ep and I've seen it at least 20 times.
Apparently, for its time, it was really the most realistic cop show on t.v. until Hillstreet Blues came on. Now they have a cell right there in the squadroom, which isn't the norm, but its done obviously to provide more characters and conflict.

When this show was on TV LAND it was on so late that I was unable to see if I lked the show or not. It was on at 2:30am and I always fell asleep before the show ended. I think I need to watch this show at 8pm and see can I get into.

TripperFan · 05-29-2005, 12:33 AM

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When this show was on TV LAND it was on so late that I was unable to see if I lked the show or not. It was on at 2:30am and I always fell asleep before the show ended. I think I need to watch this show at 8pm and see can I get into.

I know!! That's what makes me mad about TVLand these days - they put my favourite shows on in the middle of the night, meanwhile they're repeating the same old ones back to back, over and over earlier in the evening. Even Nick used to really kick-in around 9:30 - now you're lucky to have stuff start at 11!! I didn't mind the first season or so of Three's Company (even tho my screename looks like I'm a huge fan) - it was more the Jack character I liked really - so I don't even bother watching the two eps they run nightly anyway.

I would love it if they put Bob Newhart, Barney Miller, WKRP and maybe Too Close For Comfort run even for the summer earlier in the evenings.

TVFactFan · 05-29-2005, 12:40 AM

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I know!! That's what makes me mad about TVLand these days - they put my favourite shows on in the middle of the night, meanwhile they're repeating the same old ones back to back, over and over earlier in the evening. Even Nick used to really kick-in around 9:30 - now you're lucky to have stuff start at 11!! I didn't mind the first season or so of Three's Company (even tho my screename looks like I'm a huge fan) - it was more the Jack character I liked really - so I don't even bother watching the two eps they run nightly anyway.

I would love it if they put Bob Newhart, Barney Miller, WKRP and maybe Too Close For Comfort run even for the summer earlier in the evenings.

Sanford and Son needs to be replaced since all seasons will be on DVD very soon.

Brian Damage · 05-29-2005, 12:41 AM

Barney Miller was a decent show.

TripperFan · 05-29-2005, 12:50 AM

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Sanford and Son needs to be replaced since all seasons will be on DVD very soon.

That would be nice. That's one I can't really get into all that much so it would be nice to replace it with Barney!

megamanj2004 · 10-17-2005, 01:57 PM

Even though S1 wasn't as good as the later seasons, there was at least a couple of eps. from S1 that were good, particularly the infamous "Bomb Episode" that TV Land did not show, but my local Chicago Me-TV station did.

catlover79 · 03-09-2007, 01:33 PM

The best thing that Barney Miller did was cut out the home life and make it all about the precinct. Thankfully, Danny Arnold and the other big cheeses caught this early on. BM was also blessed with a terrific ensemble cast and great writers. The only bad thing?? Gregory Sierra/Chano being written out after Season 2.

TVFactFan · 03-09-2007, 02:39 PM

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The best thing that Barney Miller did was cut out the home life and make it all about the precinct. Thankfully, Danny Arnold and the other big cheeses caught this early on. BM was also blessed with a terrific ensemble cast and great writers. The only bad thing?? Gregory Sierra/Chano being written out after Season 2.

He was only written out because He was starting a new show-
"AES HUSDON STREEET" not because they feel he didn;t add anything to the show

catlover79 · 03-09-2007, 02:43 PM

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He was only written out because He was starting a new show-
"AES HUSDON STREEET" not because they feel he didn;t add anything to the show

I know...but I still missed him!!!

Trez · 04-05-2011, 10:57 PM

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I know...but I still missed him!!!

Same here

04-14-2004, 03:26 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 98,949	What big change occured in the second season of Barney Miller because I read that the show was very close to being cancelled after season one. So just wondering what seperated the first and second season.?

04-15-2004, 03:45 AM	#2
sara Member Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2002 Location: grandville michigan Posts: 2,296	Well I think they stopped trying to make it a show about both Barney's home and work life. After the 1st season they focused just on the squadroom and the "men of the ol' one two"
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05-29-2005, 12:12 AM	#5
TripperFan In God's Arms Now Forum Star Join Date: Sep 14, 2003 Location: Heartbreak Ridge Posts: 12,087	Yeah - a lot of it had to do with switching the focus from Barney and his wife to more of him in the squadroom and the characters he worked with. I actually felt really badly when they had him divorce - I liked his wife but I guess she didn't want to hang around for a more and more minor role. I think also, it was like Cheers - an excellent show from day one, but just hadn't caught on with audiences for whatever reason (maybe timeslot, night, what it was up against at the time). By the second season word of mouth caught on. You'd HAVE to like at least some episodes Solomon. One of my favourites was when one of Wojo's girlfriends bakes "spiked" brownies (with hashish) and he doesn't know and brings them into the squadroom. They all get into them and its just funny to see their reactions - it's not like drunks (I know you're not big on that). Harris turns ghetto, and Jack Soo is priceless. I still laugh to this day when I see that ep and I've seen it at least 20 times. Apparently, for its time, it was really the most realistic cop show on t.v. until Hillstreet Blues came on. Now they have a cell right there in the squadroom, which isn't the norm, but its done obviously to provide more characters and conflict.
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10-17-2005, 01:57 PM	#11
megamanj2004 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 21, 2004 Posts: 2,357	Even though S1 wasn't as good as the later seasons, there was at least a couple of eps. from S1 that were good, particularly the infamous "Bomb Episode" that TV Land did not show, but my local Chicago Me-TV station did.
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03-09-2007, 01:33 PM	#12
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,376	The best thing that Barney Miller did was cut out the home life and make it all about the precinct. Thankfully, Danny Arnold and the other big cheeses caught this early on. BM was also blessed with a terrific ensemble cast and great writers. The only bad thing?? Gregory Sierra/Chano being written out after Season 2.
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05-29-2005, 12:41 AM	#9
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,108	Barney Miller was a decent show.