Anna Nicole Smith's Ex Reveals Miscarriage

[LucyCompanyPhan]

Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

BASTARD BIRKHEAD...HE IS A JERK, HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO BE A MAN AND HE HAS NO CLASS...I GUESS ANNA BEING DEAD WILL ALLOW HIM TO BE MORE OF A JERK AND SPILL MORE "LIES"...I PRAY HE IS NOT THAT BABY'S FATHER. I KNEW IT, I KNEW HE WOULD PUSH ANNA TOO FAR.

That was pretty inapproiate for someone's resent death. People come out and say things all the time. If anything, I'm more curious to why Howard K. Stern won't take a DNA test, where he was during Anna's death and why he hasn't been watching someone who was clearly unstable.

If you want to talk about no class during a very sad time for many people, then refer to your original post and think about what you said.

[Ireneparalegal]

You can "watch" someone who is unstable, but it doesn't mean you can do anything abt it...not one damn thing. I know abt people and the abuse they can do for themselves. I lived it first hand, so I don't think anyone other than those of us who have been through that can say how hard it is to try and help someone who clearly doesn't want help or help someone who thinks they don't need help. Howard had been in Anna's life for over a decade. Larry was with her for what, a few weeks? I know if it weren't for Howard, Anna would probably have died sooner than this. Howard is not a fault here...he merely protected her. He has more class than any of those bastards who are now mocking her death, stating she slept around, saying totally inappropriate things AT ANY TIME. I will defend her because she is not alive to defend herself. LARRY BIRKHEAD IS A D*CKHEAD.

[Brian Damage]

I think Howard K Stern is just as at fault as anybody else. He seemed to want to control her and that's what he did. He took advantage of a woman in distress.

[LucyCompanyPhan]

Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

You can "watch" someone who is unstable, but it doesn't mean you can do anything abt it...not one damn thing. I know abt people and the abuse they can do for themselves. I lived it first hand, so I don't think anyone other than those of us who have been through that can say how hard it is to try and help someone who clearly doesn't want help or help someone who thinks they don't need help. Howard had been in Anna's life for over a decade. Larry was with her for what, a few weeks? I know if it weren't for Howard, Anna would probably have died sooner than this. Howard is not a fault here...he merely protected her. He has more class than any of those bastards who are now mocking her death, stating she slept around, saying totally inappropriate things AT ANY TIME. I will defend her because she is not alive to defend herself. LARRY BIRKHEAD IS A D*CKHEAD.

I don't see why anyone who doesn't know Howard K. Stern would stick up for him at this time and I don't see why Larry Birkhead is at fault for any of this. The guy spoke out because he believes he could be the father of the baby. He wants a DNA test. I really don't think that's an unfair thing to ask for. And if you're implying that the stress from Larry Birkhead was the cause of her death, Anna had more problems to be stressed out about than that guy.

Originally Posted by Brian Damage

I think Howard K Stern is just as at fault as anybody else. He seemed to want to control her and that's what he did. He took advantage of a woman in distress.

I agree with this statement. As of now, it's very suspicious that two people have mysteriously died in a mere few months when he became more involved with Anna. In the past 6 months, she hasn't been photographed without him -having her going on interviews speaking out about how he's the real father and etc. She didn't have to say a word if she didn't want to.

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by LucyCompanyPhan

I don't see why anyone who doesn't know Howard K. Stern would stick up for him at this time and I don't see why Larry Birkhead is at fault for any of this. The guy spoke out because he believes he could be the father of the baby. He wants a DNA test. I really don't think that's an unfair thing to ask for. And if you're implying that the stress from Larry Birkhead was the cause of her death, Anna had more problems to be stressed out about than that guy.



I agree with this statement. As of now, it's very suspicious that two people have mysteriously died in a mere few months when he became more involved with Anna. In the past 6 months, she hasn't been photographed without him -having her going on interviews speaking out about how he's the real father and etc. She didn't have to say a word if she didn't want to.

Larry Birkhead had a right to know if he is the father. HOWEVER, his methods for going on interview after interview after interview I don't agree with. Him spilling supposed facts that Anna had a miscarriage and other private matters are NOT PART OF THE COURT MATTER for which he is using to establish paternity. Of course he should know if he is the father, doesn't give him the right to splatter any info TRUE OR NOT abt a woman he supposedly loved and adored. Hell, if that is what men do to women they love, then don't bother loving them. Stay away from them. He should have respected her as the MOTHER OF HIS SUPPOSED CHILD. He will have had to deal with her for the next 18 years of the child's life, is that how he would have wanted to have things be? So be it that Anna did what she did to deny him a DNA test, let the courts handle it, not the media. Larry should have had MORE CLASS AND TELL THE MEDIA "NO COMMENT".

As for Howard K. Stern, if you have seen all the interviews (her last interviews) that Anna gave, you will clearly see/hear that she defended Howard. It's not for us to say whether he manipulated her or controlled her...only she and him know what happened behind closed doors. She defended Howard. She had him by her side continuously because she trusted "No one." Her words, not mine. One of her last interviews was shown last night and she expressed how she depended on Howard for EVERYTHING, as a man, as a friend, etc. If she had a female friend by her side rather than a man, this wouldn't be an issue.

As for him being there when two people died, that is so absurd. So every person who was around someone who died is a murder suspect? LMAO...

Two people, Anna and her son, had a history of taking medications and not properly...therefore, unfortunately they paid the price for it.

[Brian Damage]

I still think Stern didn't help the situation, he added greatly to it. Larry Birkhead might not of handled everything with the best tact, but he certainly had every right to pursue this DNA test. Something that Anna and Howard mysteriously refused.

[Ireneparalegal]

I would hate to think that Anna went through that drama and Larry is NOT the father. Anna and Howard were best friends. Best friends do things for each other that others wouldn't do. They may not be married "legally" but in their hearts they were. I just seen earlier another interview where Anna spoke with Greta Van Susteran and she went on abt how Howard is the only person she considered a friend and he became her best friend. Greta stated, "You hired him to be your lawyer and your best friend?" Anna stated, "No, I hired him as my lawyer and it turned into friendship. It then turned into BEST FRIENDS." She stated on another interview that Howard protects her because she ASKS HIM TO. I think it is beautiful that a relationship started out as friends and blossomed into something more, rather than a quickie romance.

[Brian Damage]

Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

I would hate to think that Anna went through that drama and Larry is NOT the father. Anna and Howard were best friends. Best friends do things for each other that others wouldn't do. They may not be married "legally" but in their hearts they were. I just seen earlier another interview where Anna spoke with Greta Van Susteran and she went on abt how Howard is the only person she considered a friend and he became her best friend. Greta stated, "You hired him to be your lawyer and your best friend?" Anna stated, "No, I hired him as my lawyer and it turned into friendship. It then turned into BEST FRIENDS." She stated on another interview that Howard protects her because she ASKS HIM TO. I think it is beautiful that a relationship started out as friends and blossomed into something more, rather than a quickie romance.

She could've been easily trained to say that. I know plenty of people that are mentally controlled by people who proclaim LOVE and everything else and deep down feel trapped.

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by Brian Damage

She could've been easily trained to say that. I know plenty of people that are mentally controlled by people who proclaim LOVE and everything else and deep down feel trapped.

I am aware of that, but I think it is obvious that Anna felt insecure and lonely (something she did state in at least two interviews) and she had to be careful because people would "use her". She needed a friend she can trust. If she was being manipulated or controlled, I think this would have shown a lot sooner. I can't imagine what her life would be like without Howard. I am sure every vulture would have taken a piece of her mental being and she would have ended up dead sooner.

[Brian Damage]

Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

I am aware of that, but I think it is obvious that Anna felt insecure and lonely (something she did state in at least two interviews) and she had to be careful because people would "use her". She needed a friend she can trust. If she was being manipulated or controlled, I think this would have shown a lot sooner. I can't imagine what her life would be like without Howard. I am sure every vulture would have taken a piece of her mental being and she would have ended up dead sooner.

But think about it Irene, she did die early. She was only 39. Look at her life with Howard. She was a mess. She did drugs, she had affairs, she was in terrible shape. I don't want to rag on her, but my point is, just how good of a friend was Howard if she still did all these things?

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by Brian Damage

But think about it Irene, she did die early. She was only 39. Look at her life with Howard. She was a mess. She did drugs, she had affairs, she was in terrible shape. I don't want to rag on her, but my point is, just how good of a friend was Howard if she still did all these things?

A friend can only do so much. Imagine how really really bad it would have been for her. I mean, friends can beg, plead, yell, scream and talk til the cows come home but only the person who is taking drugs has to speak up and admit they have a problem. Once they can admit they have a problem, then they can seek help, then and only then can friends be there to assist. Mariah Carey is a good example of that. Her sister is a prostitute w/HIV and all of Mariah's money can't make her sister come off the streets and seek help. Her sister has to want to get better.

[LucyCompanyPhan]

You know what rubs me the wrong way? Right now, Larry Birkhard's attorney is speaking for him on television, trying to get the case pushed and stuff for the baby..which all makes sense. Sure he tried to milk the case in the past...but he's for the most part keeping her affairs quiet at least now.

Well now, apparently on Entertainment Tonight, they're airing the "exclusive" interview with Stern and him being reunited with the baby. Anna's been dead for like 4 days and he already called up a tabloid for a story to be done on him for a whatever amount of money. Fine if he wants to do an interview done the road...but do we really need to see it at this particular time? I think he's trying to make himself look better - which theres nothing wrong with clearing your name - but do it in court and with respectibility.

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by LucyCompanyPhan

You know what rubs me the wrong way? Right now, Larry Birkhard's attorney is speaking for him on television, trying to get the case pushed and stuff for the baby..which all makes sense. Sure he tried to milk the case in the past...but he's for the most part keeping her affairs quiet at least now.

Well now, apparently on Entertainment Tonight, they're airing the "exclusive" interview with Stern and him being reunited with the baby. Anna's been dead for like 4 days and he already called up a tabloid for a story to be done on him for a whatever amount of money. Fine if he wants to do an interview done the road...but do we really need to see it at this particular time? I think he's trying to make himself look better - which theres nothing wrong with clearing your name - but do it in court and with respectibility.

Exactly! Bottom line, whatever court matters need to be done, do it, but the interviews, etc. are NOT NECESSARY AND ARE NOT PART OF THE COURT MATTERS. Birkhead's attorney even bringing up the absurd notion that Anna and/or Howard may do a baby switch is ludicrous, crass and pathetic. Even if Birkhead and his attorney believe that something like that could occur, KEEP IT ON THE DOWN LOW, there is no reason for her to answer to the media. What happened to "No comment."????

Anna doesn't have millions in her purse, her house or in her bank account. Her on-going legal battle is just that, a legal battle, doesn't mean any $$$ is coming her way. That poor baby will go through what Christina Onassis' daughter is currently going through.

[LucyCompanyPhan]

Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

Exactly! Bottom line, whatever court matters need to be done, do it, but the interviews, etc. are NOT NECESSARY AND ARE NOT PART OF THE COURT MATTERS. Birkhead's attorney even bringing up the absurd notion that Anna and/or Howard may do a baby switch is ludicrous, crass and pathetic. Even if Birkhead and his attorney believe that something like that could occur, KEEP IT ON THE DOWN LOW, there is no reason for her to answer to the media. What happened to "No comment."????

Anna doesn't have millions in her purse, her house or in her bank account. Her on-going legal battle is just that, a legal battle, doesn't mean any $$$ is coming her way. That poor baby will go through what Christina Onassis' daughter is currently going through.

Well, I can't blame Birkhead's attorney for looking for a DNA sample for the baby from Anna. Why not make sure that both DNA's match? I mean, a switch would be completely ludicrious but better safe than not doing it.

[Janice]

Originally Posted by LucyCompanyPhan

Well, I can't blame Birkhead's attorney for looking for a DNA sample for the baby from Anna. Why not make sure that both DNA's match? I mean, a switch would be completely ludicrious but better safe than not doing it.

It's probably not as far-fetched as we think either. The stakes are very high. People do things like this for a lot less important matters. Drug testing, for example. I had to take one before I started a job years ago. I couldn't believe the procedure. I had to take my shoes off, and I was frisked.

The bathroom was locked and used only for drug testing. The nurse waited outside the bathroom while I "went". All this to make sure I didn't try to slip them someone else's clean urine sample.

There's no honor system when it comes to matters like this.