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TVFactFan · 03-31-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by treky

I know they showed the episode of "ARCHIE BUNKERS PLACE" where the character was spun-off.

That's the ep I want to see, I only saw the other pilot

Dr. Thong · 03-31-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

Gloria was an ok series. They did tone down her character for the show. The best episode was when she confronted Michael Stivic on why he left her. Rob Reiner was not in the episode. From what I remember, the showed just the back of his head.

I never saw that one. That sounds pretty weak. If they couldn't have gotten Rob Reiner, they shouldn't have had an episode with "Mike" in it.

From what I understand, CBS felt Archie Bunker was tired and wanted to get rid of it. They saw Gloria as being tied to that character and that era and dispensed with her as well.

Shows that were lower-rated than either Archie Bunker's Place and Gloria were renewed for the 1983-84 season, so that theory has some validity.

TVFactFan · 03-31-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Thong

I never saw that one. That sounds pretty weak. If they couldn't have gotten Rob Reiner, they shouldn't have had an episode with "Mike" in it.

From what I understand, CBS felt Archie Bunker was tired and wanted to get rid of it. They saw Gloria as being tied to that character and that era and dispensed with her as well.

Shows that were lower-rated than either Archie Bunker's Place and Gloria were renewed for the 1983-84 season, so that theory has some validity.

Makes a lot of sense

Lamont · 04-01-2006, 10:16 PM

WELL at first there was the 2 parter where GLORIA Came home after Mike left her (WHICH I HATED, b/c Mike would NEVER have left Gloria and joey, THEY WERE HIS LIFE, and I hate when they have a character do something totally against character just to change direction)

They filmed a pilot called THE FIRST DAY where Archie Helps Gloria Move and get her new job and meet Burgess Meredith and all.....

BUT Carol O Connor did NOT want that one shown on tv, b/c he decided it would be better for the show GLORIA to make it on its own, SOOOO they reshot the pilot , pretty much same plot WITHOUT ARCHIEs presence

THE RESHOT version aired as GLORIAs 1st ep

HOWEVER, the unaired pilot LATER was shown in Syndication as PART of ARCHIE BUNKERS PLACE

I have the unaired pilot for trade if anyone wants it

ITS ODD TO WATCH, b/c it has the Archie Bunkers Place theme and credits BUT It has STARRING SALLY STRUTHERS and the other names from GLORIA listed in the credits

Gloria was bad, b/c I hated how they had Mike do that to her.... it was wrong. I would have rather have Mike been killed or something

PLUS Gloria, was totally out of character too! When did she suddenly mature? it made no sense

TVFactFan · 04-01-2006, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamont

WELL at first there was the 2 parter where GLORIA Came home after Mike left her (WHICH I HATED, b/c Mike would NEVER have left Gloria and joey, THEY WERE HIS LIFE, and I hate when they have a character do something totally against character just to change direction)

They filmed a pilot called THE FIRST DAY where Archie Helps Gloria Move and get her new job and meet Burgess Meredith and all.....

BUT Carol O Connor did NOT want that one shown on tv, b/c he decided it would be better for the show GLORIA to make it on its own, SOOOO they reshot the pilot , pretty much same plot WITHOUT ARCHIEs presence

THE RESHOT version aired as GLORIAs 1st ep

HOWEVER, the unaired pilot LATER was shown in Syndication as PART of ARCHIE BUNKERS PLACE

I have the unaired pilot for trade if anyone wants it

ITS ODD TO WATCH, b/c it has the Archie Bunkers Place theme and credits BUT It has STARRING SALLY STRUTHERS and the other names from GLORIA listed in the credits

Gloria was bad, b/c I hated how they had Mike do that to her.... it was wrong. I would have rather have Mike been killed or something

PLUS Gloria, was totally out of character too! When did she suddenly mature? it made no sense

I would have preferred Archie's Presence in the pilot

Scoobiedoo30 · 04-02-2006, 11:15 AM

I hope Some Day that Gloria airs on TV Land

Pug Lover · 06-06-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Thong

I never saw that one. That sounds pretty weak. If they couldn't have gotten Rob Reiner, they shouldn't have had an episode with "Mike" in it.

From what I understand, CBS felt Archie Bunker was tired and wanted to get rid of it. They saw Gloria as being tied to that character and that era and dispensed with her as well.

Shows that were lower-rated than either Archie Bunker's Place and Gloria were renewed for the 1983-84 season, so that theory has some validity.

And yet The Jeffersons went on for two more seasons.Maybe they weren't tied to Archie Bunker the same way Gloria was.Or perhaps The Jeffersons was higher rated.

TVFactFan · 06-06-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pug Lover

And yet The Jeffersons went on for two more seasons.Maybe they weren't tied to Archie Bunker the same way Gloria was.Or perhaps The Jeffersons was higher rated.

Yep, the Jeffersons was ranked 12th after that season

Robert 13 · 06-18-2006, 12:03 PM

I'm guessing the chances are slim for a DVD release of "Gloria". I wonder if they would eventually do it for AITF completists. The upside is it would be a "Complete Series" release since there was only 1 season.

TVFactFan · 06-18-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert 13

I'm guessing the chances are slim for a DVD release of "Gloria". I wonder if they would eventually do it for AITF completists. The upside is it would be a "Complete Series" release since there was only 1 season.

They should release it since they are releasing ABP which started Gloria.

ethelmaepotter · 11-30-2006, 02:01 PM

I saw an interview with Carroll O'Connor from the late 1990s. He talked highly of Jean Stapleton & Rob Reiner, but acted as if he refrained from talking about Sally Struthers.

According to O'Connor, halfway through the production of Gloria, Lear insisted that O'Connor hire his brother-in-law to produce "Gloria" as well as fire the shows writers and hire the ones that Lear wanted. It lead to another O'Connor-Lear battle and the series was canceled, perhaps not so much do to ratings but behind-the-scenes drama.

TVFactFan · 11-30-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ethelmaepotter

I saw an interview with Carroll O'Connor from the late 1990s. He talked highly of Jean Stapleton & Rob Reiner, but acted as if he refrained from talking about Sally Struthers.

According to O'Connor, halfway through the production of Gloria, Lear insisted that O'Connor hire his brother-in-law to produce "Gloria" as well as fire the shows writers and hire the ones that Lear wanted. It lead to another O'Connor-Lear battle and the series was canceled, perhaps not so much do to ratings but behind-the-scenes drama.

Thanks for clearing that up because I was always confused why Gloria was cancelled and it finished in the Top 20 after it's First Season

Dr. Thong · 12-02-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TVResearcher

Thanks for clearing that up because I was always confused why Gloria was cancelled and it finished in the Top 20 after it's First Season

I think there were also behind-the-scenes network politics, because both shows technically should have been renewed, because lower-rated series like The Dukes Of Hazzard were.

I think CBS saw Archie as tired and wanted to get rid of him and by association, Gloria too. There's no reason why both shows shouldn't have returned for the 1983-84 season. Networks work in very strange ways.

Brian Damage · 12-03-2006, 12:03 PM

I never realized that was a problem. Interesting...I will say that I liked Gloria it wasn't half bad.

Lamont · 12-03-2006, 10:59 PM

at the time I was so disgusted with the network

YES Archie Bunkers Place had gotten tired and routine, BUT after all that the show had given to the network, they OWED IT TO THE SHOW to give it a final season and a great finale episode---- i always hoped there would be a finale episode where Mike would come back to New York and ask Gloria to take him back.... and since Mike had no job, they would all move back into Archies house and be a family again.....

but, nope, they just got canned without warning

04-01-2006, 10:16 PM	#19
Lamont Lamont says Smile! Forum Veteran Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Deep in the Heart of Nowhere Posts: 5,217	the original pilot WELL at first there was the 2 parter where GLORIA Came home after Mike left her (WHICH I HATED, b/c Mike would NEVER have left Gloria and joey, THEY WERE HIS LIFE, and I hate when they have a character do something totally against character just to change direction) They filmed a pilot called THE FIRST DAY where Archie Helps Gloria Move and get her new job and meet Burgess Meredith and all..... BUT Carol O Connor did NOT want that one shown on tv, b/c he decided it would be better for the show GLORIA to make it on its own, SOOOO they reshot the pilot , pretty much same plot WITHOUT ARCHIEs presence THE RESHOT version aired as GLORIAs 1st ep HOWEVER, the unaired pilot LATER was shown in Syndication as PART of ARCHIE BUNKERS PLACE I have the unaired pilot for trade if anyone wants it ITS ODD TO WATCH, b/c it has the Archie Bunkers Place theme and credits BUT It has STARRING SALLY STRUTHERS and the other names from GLORIA listed in the credits Gloria was bad, b/c I hated how they had Mike do that to her.... it was wrong. I would have rather have Mike been killed or something PLUS Gloria, was totally out of character too! When did she suddenly mature? it made no sense
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Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,108	I never realized that was a problem. Interesting...I will say that I liked Gloria it wasn't half bad.
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06-18-2006, 12:03 PM	#24
Robert 13 Member Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,521	I'm guessing the chances are slim for a DVD release of "Gloria". I wonder if they would eventually do it for AITF completists. The upside is it would be a "Complete Series" release since there was only 1 season.

11-30-2006, 02:01 PM	#26
ethelmaepotter Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 03, 2005 Posts: 243	I saw an interview with Carroll O'Connor from the late 1990s. He talked highly of Jean Stapleton & Rob Reiner, but acted as if he refrained from talking about Sally Struthers. According to O'Connor, halfway through the production of Gloria, Lear insisted that O'Connor hire his brother-in-law to produce "Gloria" as well as fire the shows writers and hire the ones that Lear wanted. It lead to another O'Connor-Lear battle and the series was canceled, perhaps not so much do to ratings but behind-the-scenes drama.

12-03-2006, 10:59 PM	#30
Lamont Lamont says Smile! Forum Veteran Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Deep in the Heart of Nowhere Posts: 5,217	at the time I was so disgusted with the network YES Archie Bunkers Place had gotten tired and routine, BUT after all that the show had given to the network, they OWED IT TO THE SHOW to give it a final season and a great finale episode---- i always hoped there would be a finale episode where Mike would come back to New York and ask Gloria to take him back.... and since Mike had no job, they would all move back into Archies house and be a family again..... but, nope, they just got canned without warning