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treky · 05-25-2003, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by fore284
I didn't know the names I remember the raid that when bad.

how do you remember something that happened in 1876????

EmpressDR · 04-04-2004, 07:39 PM

F-Troop on ABC??
I thought it was on CBS--because it had the same announcer as had Lost in Space--Dick Tufeld.
But in checking his filmography, I see that he announced shows on ABC and NBC.
Of course, that show that starred Tim Conway, which was a snin-off, and for awhile, had the record for the TV show with most rapid cancelation, "Rango" was on ABC--it's theme song was sung by Frankie Lane. Anyone know the lyrics?

Jay Dub · 04-08-2004, 10:24 AM

Historical inaccuracies can be pointed out in almost every sitcom that has reference to a certain era. (I dream of Jeannie has several)
Back to F-Troop; when discussing court martial proceedings for Corp. Agarn (The day thay shot Agarn) a certain Major asked Capt. Parmenter which edition of the Army Manual Did he possess? Partemter replied "1866." The Major grinned and replied, "67."

sherb · 10-31-2004, 11:38 AM

This isn't an historical inaccuracy as such, more an "outrageous" liberty taken by the writers.

I am referring to the episode where (I think) "Mr Tambourine Man" was sung. Of course, this was occurring 100 years or so before the song was actually written!!

Family Fan · 03-08-2005, 05:32 PM

Historical inaccuracies On F-Troop? ROFL!!!!!!!! Stop, I can't take it.

treky · 03-11-2005, 03:16 PM

EVERY show and movie that's set in a certain era has several historical innacuries. MASH had tons of them.

I've even discovered several on "Bonnanza".

Tweety · 03-31-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sherb

This isn't an historical inaccuracy as such, more an "outrageous" liberty taken by the writers.

I am referring to the episode where (I think) "Mr Tambourine Man" was sung. Of course, this was occurring 100 years or so before the song was actually written!!

Mr. Tambourine Man COULD have been written in the 1860s... it's just that it took 100 years before anyone could actually sound good singing it, as the Byrds did.

dontwc · 04-12-2005, 09:02 PM

I think my favorite episode was the one where Agarn got court martialed for selling Viagra to the Indians...

sherb · 09-15-2005, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tweety

Mr. Tambourine Man COULD have been written in the 1860s... it's just that it took 100 years before anyone could actually sound good singing it, as the Byrds did.

True.

Didn't the Bedbugs also have electric guitars as well?

(It has been so long since I saw that episode I can't remember).

TV Knowledge Fan · 04-24-2006, 01:45 PM

...WAS "F TROOP"'s announcer...but only on the network version. He was the one who said, before the opening credits, "The Quaker Oats Company presents..", and "F TROOP...brought to you by....Quaker Oats {etc.}...." and, "F TROOP...was brought to you by.....the growing family of products of The Quaker Oats Company". They were the primary sponsor the entire two seasons the show was on ABC.

As for "historical inaccuracy", it didn't really matter. If a "rock group" supposedly performing after the Civil War got a laugh, why not? If Wrangler Jane sang a song that wouldn't be written for almost a hundred years, WHY NOT?? Especially if it was published by a Warner Bros. music subsidiary.....

Nobody ever faulted "THE WILD WILD WEST" for their "futuristic" devices in the 1870's!

TV Knowledge Fan · 06-05-2006, 02:14 PM

....in "The Singing Mountie", Sergeant Ramsden [Paul Lynde] "mushes" his way into Fort Courage 'singing' "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp". The fact that this particular song was taken from Victor Herbert's operetta "Naughty Marietta", which, given the "1866" time frame the series was supposed to take place,
wouldn't be written for at least another 40 to 50 years!

Obviously, "Ramsden" is supposed to be a parody of every "singing Mountie" Nelson Eddy ever appeared as in the movies- particularly the one who sang "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp" in the 1935 movie version of "Naughty Marietta".
And, of course, "F TROOP" was SUPPOSED to be pure farce, and not to be taken too literally or seriously.....

Mikado · 06-05-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TV Knowledge Fan

....in "The Singing Mountie", Sergeant Ramsden [Paul Lynde] "mushes" his way into Fort Courage 'singing' "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp". The fact that this particular song was taken from Victor Herbert's operetta "Naughty Marietta", which, given the "1866" time frame the series was supposed to take place,
wouldn't be written for at least another 40 to 50 years!

Obviously, "Ramsden" is supposed to be a parody of every "singing Mountie" Nelson Eddy ever appeared as in the movies- particularly the one who sang "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp" in the 1935 movie version of "Naughty Marietta".
And, of course, "F TROOP" was SUPPOSED to be pure farce, and not to be taken too literally or seriously.....

Well, actually, just having a singing mountie appear in 1866 is a historical innacuracy in itself; the North West Mounted Police ( now known as RCMP ) were created by John A MacDonald ( prime minister ) in 1873, and only went into active service in 1874, thus they didnt EXIST in 1866

The Mounties left in the spring of 1874 on a long trek to protect the natives from the American whisky traders at Fort Whoop-up in Canadian territory...by the time they got there, later that summer, the Fort was empty as the whisky traders had already left without a shot fired

TV Knowledge Fan · 06-05-2006, 05:26 PM

Yes, 'mikado', you're absolutely right! How COULD an "RCMP" officer visit Fort Courage after the Civil War when THEY didn't even exist yet???

So let's not hear any more protests about "historical inaccuracy". That would be as ridiculous as, say, Wild Eagle listening to his new "stereophonic" moose call {"Only trouble is, only HALF a moose show up!" CRAZY CAT: "Guess which side?" "You and your 'helpful' relatives!!!!"}.

04-04-2004, 07:39 PM	#17
EmpressDR Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 22, 2004 Location: California Posts: 279	ABC or CBS? F-Troop on ABC?? I thought it was on CBS--because it had the same announcer as had Lost in Space--Dick Tufeld. But in checking his filmography, I see that he announced shows on ABC and NBC. Of course, that show that starred Tim Conway, which was a snin-off, and for awhile, had the record for the TV show with most rapid cancelation, "Rango" was on ABC--it's theme song was sung by Frankie Lane. Anyone know the lyrics?

10-31-2004, 11:38 AM	#19
sherb Member Forum Hawk Join Date: Oct 31, 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 4	This isn't an historical inaccuracy as such, more an "outrageous" liberty taken by the writers. I am referring to the episode where (I think) "Mr Tambourine Man" was sung. Of course, this was occurring 100 years or so before the song was actually written!!
	__________________ The end of a civil war was near.....

04-24-2006, 01:45 PM	#25
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	Dick Tufeld... ...WAS "F TROOP"'s announcer...but only on the network version. He was the one who said, before the opening credits, "The Quaker Oats Company presents..", and "F TROOP...brought to you by....Quaker Oats {etc.}...." and, "F TROOP...was brought to you by.....the growing family of products of The Quaker Oats Company". They were the primary sponsor the entire two seasons the show was on ABC. As for "historical inaccuracy", it didn't really matter. If a "rock group" supposedly performing after the Civil War got a laugh, why not? If Wrangler Jane sang a song that wouldn't be written for almost a hundred years, WHY NOT?? Especially if it was published by a Warner Bros. music subsidiary..... Nobody ever faulted "THE WILD WILD WEST" for their "futuristic" devices in the 1870's!

06-05-2006, 02:14 PM	#26
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	and then, there was one MORE incongruity.... ....in "The Singing Mountie", Sergeant Ramsden [Paul Lynde] "mushes" his way into Fort Courage 'singing' "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp". The fact that this particular song was taken from Victor Herbert's operetta "Naughty Marietta", which, given the "1866" time frame the series was supposed to take place, wouldn't be written for at least another 40 to 50 years! Obviously, "Ramsden" is supposed to be a parody of every "singing Mountie" Nelson Eddy ever appeared as in the movies- particularly the one who sang "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp" in the 1935 movie version of "Naughty Marietta". And, of course, "F TROOP" was SUPPOSED to be pure farce, and not to be taken too literally or seriously.....

06-05-2006, 05:26 PM	#28
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	SEE? Yes, 'mikado', you're absolutely right! How COULD an "RCMP" officer visit Fort Courage after the Civil War when THEY didn't even exist yet??? So let's not hear any more protests about "historical inaccuracy". That would be as ridiculous as, say, Wild Eagle listening to his new "stereophonic" moose call {"Only trouble is, only HALF a moose show up!" CRAZY CAT: "Guess which side?" "You and your 'helpful' relatives!!!!"}.

04-08-2004, 10:24 AM	#18
Jay Dub Member Forum Cub Join Date: Apr 08, 2004 Posts: 2	Historical inaccuracies can be pointed out in almost every sitcom that has reference to a certain era. (I dream of Jeannie has several) Back to F-Troop; when discussing court martial proceedings for Corp. Agarn (The day thay shot Agarn) a certain Major asked Capt. Parmenter which edition of the Army Manual Did he possess? Partemter replied "1866." The Major grinned and replied, "67."

03-08-2005, 05:32 PM	#20
Family Fan Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 20, 2002 Posts: 249	Historical inaccuracies On F-Troop? ROFL!!!!!!!! Stop, I can't take it.

03-11-2005, 03:16 PM	#21
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	EVERY show and movie that's set in a certain era has several historical innacuries. MASH had tons of them. I've even discovered several on "Bonnanza".

04-12-2005, 09:02 PM	#23
dontwc Welcome back, Otter! Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 09, 2005 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 21	I think my favorite episode was the one where Agarn got court martialed for selling Viagra to the Indians...