The Knicks have traded Keith Van Horn to Milwaukee in a three team deal that also involved Atlanta. The Bucks get Van Horn, the Hawks get Michael Zodiac and player from Atlanta, the Knicks get a player from the Bucks and the Hawks.

I don't much about the other players envolved, I just hope they have low post presence. And I wish the NBA did not have this ridculous 45 day rule, in which you can not trade a player you just acquired in a trade for 45 days, then the Knicks could have gotten Wallace. If I was the Knicks I would have put this trade on hold and done in July, with Rashaed Wallace involved in a sign and trade.

But after this trade, I like the Knicks chances of getting Wallace this off season, because Ishah has showed me he has the George Stienbringer maintality of getting the players he wants.

Originally posted by tvje
The Knicks have traded Keith Van Horn to Milwaukee in a three team deal that also involved Atlanta. The Bucks get Van Horn, the Hawks get Michael Zodiac and player from Atlanta, the Knicks get a player from the Bucks and the Hawks.

I don't much about the other players envolved, I just hope they have low post presence. And I wish the NBA did not have this ridculous 45 day rule, in which you can not trade a player you just acquired in a trade for 45 days, then the Knicks could have gotten Wallace. If I was the Knicks I would have put this trade on hold and done in July, with Rashaed Wallace involved in a sign and trade.

But after this trade, I like the Knicks chances of getting Wallace this off season, because Ishah has showed me he has the George Stienbringer maintality of getting the players he wants.




This can't be good for Van Horn's confidence. This will be his 4th team in 3 years. Hard to play with confidence when that happens.

The Knicks are going to be very tough in the playoffs (if they make them). Other the the Pacers, I don't know if there's a team in the East that is that much better then them.

Originally posted by TJ
The Knicks are going to be very tough in the playoffs (if they make them). Other the the Pacers, I don't know if there's a team in the East that is that much better then them.



Are you forgetting about the NETS?

Stupid trade by the Knicks. Tim Thomas is not having that good of a season. I thought Van Horn has played very well this season. He's scored 30+ a few times, Tim Thomas hasn't at all. And why Nazr Mohammed? I guess he's better than Doleac at back-up center.

I don't consider the Knicks going anywhere in the east. They haven't beaten any elite teams except Indiana in the Marbury era. They lost to Houston twice, San Antonio, Dallas, New Orleans and they have beat up on bad teams like Miami (they lost to them once too), and Atlanta. We'll see how they do against Detroit on Tuesday and the upcoming west coast trip against teams like the Kings.

The Nets are the team to beat clearly. Indiana is the only one that can match up against them. Nets can beat Detroit and New Orleans.

NY hype..........a below .500 team destined for great things. :lol: :lol:

According to a couple of NBA GM's, Isiah Thomas is burying the Knicks regarding the salary cap.

People feel Tim Thomas is more athletic than Keith Van Horn, that he would fit more with the fast, push-it-up offense now that they have Starbury.

NY hype..........a below .500 team destined for great things

I wouldn't call it NY hype, there's not exactly that many teams above .500 in the east anyway. At the start of the season, we'd just got rid of Sprewell for Van Horn and Don Cheney never coached the team to a .500 record. With the additions of Starbury, Penny, Wilkens, Tim Thomas, etc. why wouldn't fans have reason to look at the season more positively than two months ago?

I hope Thomas does well, but while he has had flashes of great play he tends to underachieve and not take it inside. Maybe he will do better with Marbury.

Originally posted by vashti1999
People feel Tim Thomas is more athletic than Keith Van Horn, that he would fit more with the fast, push-it-up offense now that they have Starbury.



I wouldn't call it NY hype, there's not exactly that many teams above .500 in the east anyway. At the start of the season, we'd just got rid of Sprewell for Van Horn and Don Cheney never coached the team to a .500 record. With the additions of Starbury, Penny, Wilkens, Tim Thomas, etc. why wouldn't fans have reason to look at the season more positively than two months ago?



Tim Thomas has no jump shot. Knicks will miss that from Van horn.

I forgot to mention McDyess was still on the injured list at the start of the season. So coming into the season, I wasn't optimistic at all about the Knicks doing anything, but with all the moves, there's reason to have hope. As far as salary cap, Knicks weren't going to go under the cap even without Isiah Thomas' trades.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Tim Thomas has no jump shot. Knicks will miss that from Van horn.

They still have Starbury, Houston, and Shandon Anderson if they want jump shooters.

TVJE u can't spell for s**t LOL. U called Michael Doleac Zodiac hahahahahahahahahahaha. U spelled George Steinbrenner's last name wrong & u spelled Isiah's name wrong. Learn how to spell. Anyway i would really like to know why does Keith Van Horn keep getting traded so much. Something is wrong. I think he's a good player but people keep questioning his heart. Stephon Marbury said that Keith doesn't play with any heart & he's soft when i don't think that's the case. Tim Thomas does have a jumpshot but it's not as good as Keith's. I hope Keith can finally find a home with Milwaukee cause if he gets traded one more damn time, i'm gonna holla LOL.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
TVJE u can't spell for s**t LOL. U called Michael Doleac Zodiac hahahahahahahahahahaha. U spelled George Steinbrenner's last name wrong & u spelled Isiah's name wrong. Learn how to spell. Anyway i would really like to know why does Keith Van Horn keep getting traded so much. Something is wrong. I think he's a good player but people keep questioning his heart. Stephon Marbury said that Keith doesn't play with any heart & he's soft when i don't think that's the case. Tim Thomas does have a jumpshot but it's not as good as Keith's. I hope Keith can finally find a home with Milwaukee cause if he gets traded one more damn time, i'm gonna holla LOL.

THE ONE THING YOU CAN COUNT ON....
when stephon throws the alley-oop TIM THOMAS is going to jump out of the building to slam it home.!

And then he wont do anything the rest of the game. :lol:

Originally posted by tvje
I don't much about the other players envolved, I just hope they have low post presence. And I wish the NBA did not have this ridculous 45 day rule, in which you can not trade a player you just acquired in a trade for 45 days, then the Knicks could have gotten Wallace. If I was the Knicks I would have put this trade on hold and done in July, with Rashaed Wallace involved in a sign and trade.


There is no such 45 day rule, I don't know where you got that from. The Hawks can still trade 'sheed this season before the trade deadline.

I know there is a rule that you can not trade a player you aquired in a trade for a certain amount of days. Maybe it is not 45 days, probably 3 days.

Teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:

For two months after receiving the player in trade, if the player is being traded in combination with other players.

However, the team is free to trade the player by himself (not packaged with other players) immediately. This two-month restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap.

Originally posted by Eddie Haskell
Teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:

For two months after receiving the player in trade, if the player is being traded in combination with other players.

However, the team is free to trade the player by himself (not packaged with other players) immediately. This two-month restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap.

Wouldn't that include RASHEED WALLACE...he was traded along with WESLEY PERSON. So the person who said 45 days is just off by 15. I also heard one of the sportscasters mention something of that nature. Saying he could not be traded before the ALL STAR break.

I am a little disappointed the Knicks didn't bring back Wallace in this trade.

Originally posted by tvje
I am a little disappointed the Knicks didn't bring back Wallace in this trade.

bring back.? You mean re-open trade talks. I heard that the Knicks dont have anything or anyone that the HAWKS would take for Rashweed. I read that he wants to sign with the knicks next season.

I know the Knicks don't have anything the Hawks want, exept for Kurt Thomas, but the salries don't matchup for a straightup Wallace/Thomas trade, that is why I am disappointed, because they had the Bucks has a third team that could have helped this trade happen.

Wallace could be Knick, Piston, or Maverick. If he does not end up with the Knicks this season, (I think the Knicks are a long shot to get him via trade deadline trade but Ishah has worked a couple of miracle trades already), of the Pistons and Mavericks, I hope he ends up with the Mavericks, so he would be in the Western Conference and Knicks don't have to play him in the playoffs, unless by some miracle they meet in the Finals, if that happens who cares, Knicks are in the Finals, also maybe he helps the Mavericks knockoff the Lakers, because I hate the Lakers.

But I think the Knicks have a good chance of getting Wallace via Free Agentcy this summer.

The Hawks are just looking to dump all the payroll they can, they have zero interest in matching up salaries. Watch them make a run at Kobe or T-Mac over the summer and hire Doc Rivers as their coach.

The NBA rule, is that you have to match salaries when you trade players. There can only be $1-2 million diffrence in salaries. This is not like baseball, where the Yankees traded a $5 million player to the Rangers for $25 million player.

The Hawks want players that are in the last year of their contracts.

TVJE learn how to spell. Did u go to school? LOL. U spell like your illiterate. LOL@Jekouptown spelling Rasheed Rashweed. T-Mac or Kobe aren't gonna sign with Atlanta in the offseason. They ain't that stupid LOL. If i was Doc Rivers, i wouldn't even take the Hawks head coach job if they offered it to me. That team won't be going anywhere for a long time & their players are scrubs. Atlanta has to be the dumbest team in the NBA when it comes to trading players & gettin nothin in return. Why would they get rid of Theo Ratliff & Nazr Mohammed & now they don't have a center? Plus they traded Glenn Robinson in the offseason last yr & got Terrell Brandon in return & then Terrell ended up retiring LOL.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
TVJE learn how to spell. Did u go to school? LOL. U spell like your illiterate. LOL@Jekouptown spelling Rasheed Rashweed. T-Mac or Kobe aren't gonna sign with Atlanta in the offseason. They ain't that stupid LOL. If i was Doc Rivers, i wouldn't even take the Hawks head coach job if they offered it to me. That team won't be going anywhere for a long time & their players are scrubs. Atlanta has to be the dumbest team in the NBA when it comes to trading players & gettin nothin in return. Why would they get rid of Theo Ratliff & Nazr Mohammed & now they don't have a center? Plus they traded Glenn Robinson in the offseason last yr & got Terrell Brandon in return & then Terrell ended up retiring LOL.

I think they are trying to sell the team also. Glenn is really not very good anymore..what happened to him.? Mohammed is only 6'10". The same height as keith van horn and tim thomas.*l*

Atlanta needs to not only sell their team, they need to get out of the NBA period hahahahahahahahahahahaha. They are horrible. I feel bad for Rasheed Wallace that he has to play the rest of this season on that crappy team. Glenn Robinson is still a good player for Philly. He's just always sucked as a defender.