View Full Version : Suspended for saying "Hell"????
Brian 02-05-2004, 10:16 PM This is one of the most outrageous punishments I have ever heard of for something as minor as this.
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PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A second-grade girl from Pittsburgh was suspended this week from her public elementary school for saying the word "hell" to a boy in her class.
But 7-year-old Brandy McKenith says she was only warning the boy about the eternal comeuppance he could face for saying: "I swear to God."
"I said, 'You're going to go to hell for swearing to God,"' Brandy was quoted as saying in an article that appeared on the Web site of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review on Wednesday.
School officials were unavailable for comment. A Pittsburgh Public Schools spokeswoman told the newspaper that the student code prohibits profanity but does not provide a clear definition of what profanity is.
The girl's parents, who said they believed their daughter's version of the story, were flabbergasted by the suspension and complained to the school principal.
"Kids are bringing guns and knives to school. ... They've got dope. And we're worried about 'hell'?" said her father, Wayne McKenith.
Meanwhile, the incident drew the attention of civil liberties experts as far away as New York.
"There was no threat and the word was being used in its intended way, not in a vulgar manner," civil liberties attorney Christopher Murray said in a statement distributed by his New York law firm.
Mr. Stefani 02-05-2004, 10:23 PM I got put into ISS today for telling some crazy sub to chill her ass out. So unfair.
-*Leah*- 02-05-2004, 10:48 PM That is stupid, especially since many kids do much, much worse. And the fact that she was using it for what the real definition makes it even more crazy.
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 02-05-2004, 10:52 PM That's so stupid...especially since she's only 7. Kids my age say much worse in school and the teachers usually just let it go...and plus she wasn't even using it as swear word.
PZelda 02-05-2004, 11:18 PM Originally posted by *A TV People*
That's so stupid...especially since she's only 7. Kids my age say much worse in school and the teachers usually just let it go...and plus she wasn't even using it as swear word.
:nod: Taking it off from Brian's post...it sounds like she comes from a religious family, and it's very apparent she believes in God. She didn't come to school wearing nothing. That's dumb. :rolleyes:
-*Leah*- 02-05-2004, 11:20 PM Originally posted by *A TV People*
That's so stupid...especially since she's only 7. Kids my age say much worse in school and the teachers usually just let it go...and plus she wasn't even using it as swear word. Some words?:lol: I am in a class with some seniors first period, and they say every cuz word in the book, and the teachers never even say a word to them. Its like that with my class too though, but its usually just the guys trying to act all cool.:rolleyes:
Hollow 02-06-2004, 12:03 AM The school i went to last year was like that, if not worse.
-*Forever*- 02-06-2004, 12:05 AM Jesus, my TEACHERS say hell and nothing happens. I mean, in theatre, when we read a play, we say every single swear word (except f***) but I mean, we even say s***... it's part of the play. No one cares.
EricIdlefan 02-06-2004, 12:34 AM Originally posted by *A TV People*
That's so stupid...especially since she's only 7. Kids my age say much worse in school and the teachers usually just let it go...and plus she wasn't even using it as swear word.
Yes!! I heard kids talk like the children from "South Park!!"
dandelion wine 02-06-2004, 12:49 AM This sounds like something that would've happened in my old high school. You can bully someone without worrying about the teachers giving a damn, you can curse until your face turns blue while beating the crap out of each other... but you say 'hell' and all of a sudden "Hey! Something needs to be done about this. And fast." :rolleyes:
Mr. Television 02-06-2004, 12:56 AM Originally posted by little insomniac
This sounds like something that would've happened in my old high school. You can bully someone without worrying about the teachers giving a damn, you can curse until your face turns blue while beating the crap out of each other... but you say 'hell' and all of a sudden "Hey! Something needs to be done about this. And fast." :rolleyes:
In my highschool it always felt like I was in an R rated movie.Some of the language was really bad.:lol: This child didn't even use it as a verb.
dandelion wine 02-06-2004, 01:03 AM Originally posted by mr roper
In my highschool it always felt like I was in an R rated movie.Some of the language was really bad.:lol: This child didn't even use it as a verb.
Oh I hear ya, Sonny. :lol: Especially when a nasty fight broke out, that's when you really heard it.
Bugiddle 02-06-2004, 04:47 AM This is totally idiotic! There is no more common sense in the public school discipline policies! This is like the Zero Tolerance weapons policy that has run amuck in many schools - kids getting suspended for bringing a plastic knife to cut their food or a tiny GI Joe gun!
Kay Scarpetta 02-06-2004, 01:39 PM Originally posted by -*Forever*-
Jesus, my TEACHERS say hell and nothing happens. I mean, in theatre, when we read a play, we say every single swear word (except f***) but I mean, we even say s***... it's part of the play. No one cares.
I know. My middle school was like that last year. My teachers... ah they were great.. they ran their mouth off. No one cared.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 02-06-2004, 02:01 PM :rolleyes: What a load of crap. Its not like she told the boy to rot in hell. I bet the boy and his parents dont even care about the incident..
Elvis Fonzie Dean 02-06-2004, 02:17 PM Is hell even a curse?I thought it was supposed to be a place.I go to Private (Catholic) School and sometimes the teachers say stop cursing once in awhile, but not even my private school gets mad over something that's not really what it means.Infact, my theology teacher said "bathroom language" isn't bad if how your saying it isn't.
webuster 02-06-2004, 05:25 PM In our school people curse all the time. Only if the teach is a bit annoyed, they'll warn you- or if you use the f word. It's different if you're cursing at a teacher or cursing alot. Someone in our school kept cursing, so a teacher walked up and tapped him on the shoulder and he kept cursing, saying 'what the f do you want'- then he turned round, and got shouted at by the teacher. But usually cursing is really relaxed. In my old school I heard some of the teachers curse a few times.
*MIBabe03* 02-06-2004, 05:28 PM Wow! If that happened in my school, I would probably be suspended a lot then.
Rhiannon 02-06-2004, 05:28 PM Kids never get in trouble for cursing in my school, especially if they say "hell". I don't even consider that a curse.
Oh come on, Hell isn't a curse, it's a city!
http://members.cox.net/mcstvg/mihell.jpg
Mr. Television 02-06-2004, 05:53 PM Originally posted by Liza
Oh come on, Hell isn't a curse, it's a city!
http://members.cox.net/mcstvg/mihell.jpg
:rofl:
monni d 04-17-2004, 08:07 PM Originally posted by Brian
This is one of the most outrageous punishments I have ever heard of for something as minor as this.
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PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A second-grade girl from Pittsburgh was suspended this week from her public elementary school for saying the word "hell" to a boy in her class.
But 7-year-old Brandy McKenith says she was only warning the boy about the eternal comeuppance he could face for saying: "I swear to God."
"I said, 'You're going to go to hell for swearing to God,"' Brandy was quoted as saying in an article that appeared on the Web site of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review on Wednesday.
School officials were unavailable for comment. A Pittsburgh Public Schools spokeswoman told the newspaper that the student code prohibits profanity but does not provide a clear definition of what profanity is.
The girl's parents, who said they believed their daughter's version of the story, were flabbergasted by the suspension and complained to the school principal.
"Kids are bringing guns and knives to school. ... They've got dope. And we're worried about 'hell'?" said her father, Wayne McKenith.
Meanwhile, the incident drew the attention of civil liberties experts as far away as New York.
"There was no threat and the word was being used in its intended way, not in a vulgar manner," civil liberties attorney Christopher Murray said in a statement distributed by his New York law firm.
Damn :lol:
Hollow 04-17-2004, 08:23 PM Originally posted by monni d
Damn :lol:
what was the friggan point of bumping this up?
Brent88 04-17-2004, 08:25 PM Originally posted by mr roper
In my highschool it always felt like I was in an R rated movie.Some of the language was really bad.:lol: This child didn't even use it as a verb.
:rofl:
It started in Middle School(6-8th grade) for me. :eek:
Brent88 04-17-2004, 08:25 PM Originally posted by Liza
Oh come on, Hell isn't a curse, it's a city!
http://members.cox.net/mcstvg/mihell.jpg
:rofl:
ConservativeBalla 04-17-2004, 10:06 PM Wow, for once I agree with a Civil Liberties Union on something*; that little girl shouldn't be punished for squat since she wasn't swearing/cussing, she was using it not vulgarl-y-lly-ness..yeah.... But I also don't like that Liberal father saying, "There's so-and-so going on, and we're worried about THIS?" because that's belittling problems. The boy should get her punishment for using "God" in vain, 'cuz that's worse then the "F" word; but I'm a right-wing, fanatical, Bible-thumpin', out-of-touch redneck for thinking that, of course. So I know it ain't gonna happen.
*(Not to say I'm a racist, but in my opinion, some Civil Liberties Unions go too far. But this belongs on the non-existent Politics board, so don't talk about it.)
Penny Lane 04-19-2004, 03:28 PM Originally posted by Liza
Oh come on, Hell isn't a curse, it's a city!
http://members.cox.net/mcstvg/mihell.jpg
I have been through there! It's...............Hell..............................:D
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