I think after he got convicted for the murder of that innocent motorist whom he mistook for the driver of the car that slammed into his car, he & his wife went ahead with their plans. He faced 20 years to life for the murder and his sentencing hearing was a few weeks later.


There was a deaf woman who was an expert lip reader. The investigator used her to interpret what Adam & his wife were saying in the courtroom footage. It basically was them agreeing to go ahead with their plans.



I think his wife bought the weights just as a deliberate ruse so that when the investigators check her credit card purchases and so on they have clues that they had planned suicide. They intentionally left clues like that to build up the ruse. The weights were to be used in aiding their supposed suicide and weigh them down so that they will drown after jumping into the river.

I strongly think this because the shop keeper who sold her the weights reported she was very calm and did not appear nervous at all. This is not the type of demeanour of someone who is about to do something drastic like kill oneself that night by jumping off a bridge.


He also reported that she was very annoyed that the weights were so expensive. If you're going to kill yourself that night, I don't think you're gonna care whether or not the weights cost an extra $50 bucks more than you thought it did.


You're not going to be able to use your leftover money in your grave when you're dead so why would you care?


What I think was, she & and her husband wanted to fake a suicide by jumping of the bridge together and than disappear. Her husband was already convicted and awaiting a sentencing hearing which would likely end up with him being in prison for 20 years to life. But after the police searched the river and found absolutely nothing than they figured they must have staged their own fake suicides.


So I figured by this stage to get the authorities to believe that they are dead, Adam killed his wife and dumped her remains in the same river where he knew they will be found. This way her remains can be positively identified via DNA and dental records as his wife and that would lead the authorities to believe that he must also have commited suicide, or so he hoped.

They never wanted to commit suicide especially his wife.

But Adam decided since the authorities believe they faked it, perhaps he should murder his wife and dump her body in the river so that the authorities think they did do the suicide pact after all but are just still waiting to find his remains.

It would make perfect sense, and tie up all of the loose ends, i.e., the price at the sporting goods store, the fact that they only found her body, etc.

Sounds like it could be very possible.

Together, on the day the car was found. And Adam Emery's remains WERE found, a male leg bone that a medical examiner thought was too short to belong to a man of Emery's height. Let's see, what's more likely: 1) the medical examiner was mistaken, or 2) someone else's abandoned leg bone was lounging around in the same specific area? Gee, tough call.

I realize this is blasphemous theory on the conspiracy-absorbed internet, but once in a while the guy who bought the rifle, snuck it to work, fled the scene and killed the cop is actually the person who committed the murder. And a couple of people who are disturbed enough to chase after someone who nudged their car, then isolate the wrong vehicle and kill the driver, are more than capable of making a few odd choices and comments when it comes to their final meal or the price of their last purchases.

If the same Adam Emery is ever found alive, I will gladly donate a lifetime supply of Whoppers to anyone who ever reads this.

The leg bone found was male but was proven by forensic science to be a male no taller than 5'7". Adam was over 6'1" tall, a huge difference.

So until Adam's remains are found, I believe he is alive. He has the sort of selfish personality whereas he only would care about himself. He has shown no remorse over the killing of the innocent motorist that he stabbed to death. He showed no remorse while the victim's mother was wailing in court after he got convicted. Only thing he & his wife had in mind was to fake a suicide and flee.

Faking TIMELY suicides and fleeing has been a common method for con artists, murderers, financial swindlers, as they are about to be appreheneded or charged etc. I see numerous instances of this on Unsolved Mysteries.


Why would he commit suicide for?

He fakes a suicide on the same day that he is convicted so that he can flee and escape his expected prison sentence. He probably changed his name, changed identiy and is living a new life. Other alternative was to spend 20 years to life in prison.

As far as his wife is concerned, Adam must have had a falling out with her later on and decided it was a good idea to kill her anyway and dump her remains in the river. It was positively identified as her remains to give the impression to the authorities that they did go ahead with their suicide pact when they never did.


His wife was smiling and chatty as reported by the shop keeper when she went to buy abodominal weights on the same night they supposedly committed suicide. Is this the sort of demeanour a person should have if he/she is about to kill themselves. And the fact that she was annoyed at the expensive price of the weights is an indication that they never planned on really killing themselves. It's all a deceptive ruse to leave traces on their credit cards so the cops would think they bought stuff to help kill themselves.

Wild conspiratorial speculation can never be overcome with inconvenient facts. I experience that every day in Las Vegas sportsbooks, with losing bettors dismissing their failure with accusations that the game was fixed. That missed free throw followed by a 30 foot jumper at the buzzer was obviously scripted days earlier. Sure.

The Emery's car was found at the bridge, complete with IDs. They were seen at the nearby Burger King and sporting goods store. The lip reader caught her insisting on going thru with a plan. Her skull was located below the bridge. Only humans commit suicide, no other species. It's not exactly a rational game plan, so how can anyone assert that the Emery's actions regarding the price of the weights, etc. was not LOGICAL?

And there was never any PROOF that the leg bone was not Adam Emery's. Unsolved Mysteries mentioned that one supposed expert thought it was too short, based on height estimates. There was no mention of prior x-rays that asserted Adam Emery's leg bone was longer than the one found. There was no followup testimony from other specialists that leg bones of that type are in direct proportion to the height of the individual, and could not vary.

I'm certain the leg bone was indeed Adam Emery's. You conveniently overlooked my mention of the lounging leg bone, if it was not Adam Emery's. Any robust conspiratorial theory must account for that loose leg bone, and who it belongs to.

Together, on the day the car was found. And Adam Emery's remains WERE found, a male leg bone that a medical examiner thought was too short to belong to a man of Emery's height. Let's see, what's more likely: 1) the medical examiner was mistaken, or 2) someone else's abandoned leg bone was lounging around in the same specific area? Gee, tough call.



My Answer>>> The correct answer I think is #2. I think the leg bones belonged to a yet unidentified male stranger. I don't think they are Adam's Emery.




Wild conspiratorial speculation can never be overcome with inconvenient facts. I experience that every day in Las Vegas sportsbooks, with losing bettors dismissing their failure with accusations that the game was fixed. That missed free throw followed by a 30 foot jumper at the buzzer was obviously scripted days earlier. Sure.

My answer>> This is not sports betting or gambling. There's really no comparison there between that and faking suicides to avoid prison.


The Emery's car was found at the bridge, complete with IDs.

My answer>> And what does this mean? To you it might mean that they jumped off the bridge.

My Answer>> To me being cautious and not jumping to conclusions, I believe it is probably not. First they had deliberately & GLARINGLY left their IDs in their abandoned car. This tells me that they're trying to tell whoever finds their abandoned car, that this car belonged to Mr & Mrs Emery. It's part of their ruse to mislead the authorities that they had commited suicide by jumping off the bridge. You got conned by their ruse. If you are going to kill yourself, I don't think you could give a rat's ass if people believe you are dead or not (YOU'RE DEAD, WHY DOES IT MATTER?) so why go through all that trouble of leaving your IDs glaringly in the car to be discovered.



My Answer>> His wife bought the abdominal weights as a ruse to leave traces like the shop receipt & traces on her credit card at the sports store. His wife and him than deliberately made themselves be seen during the afternoon at the bridge so witnesses can say yeah that they were there alright "I saw them etc" . That's also part of their ruse. Later on that evening when the bridge was almost deserted Adam probably drove the car that was to be abandoned (with their IDs conveniently left in the car for anybody who finds it to know that this car belonged to the Emery's) to that part of the bridge. His wife probably drove behind in another 2nd car and picked him up and they both drove off leaving their abandoned car there with the IDs to give the impression that they both jumped to their deaths.



They were seen at the nearby Burger King and sporting goods store.

My Answer>> I told you the purchase of the abdominal weights was just a ruse to make it seem like they were buying stuff to aid in their suicide (abominal weights to help them drown). The storekeeper reported Mrs Emery was very chatty, smiling and calm when she made this purchase? I suppose when you're about to kill yourself you are happy & cheerful? She didn't have to kill herself, her husband was going to prison, not her. She wanted to pretend she's doing a suicide pact with her husband so that she can disappear too. If her husband disappears & she still around, she is going to be INTERROGATED & GRILLED about her husband's disappearance.



The lip reader caught her insisting on going thru with a plan.

My Answer>> Yes that was correct. The plan was to fake the suicide pact to mislead authorities and flee & disappear so that Adam Emery can escape HIS IMPENDING PRISON SENTENCE OF 20 YRS TO LIFE. In a few weeks he was to go to be sentenced. He's already been convicted. He's GOING TO PRISON MAN FOR 20 YRS TO LIFE FOR MURDER.


Her skull was located below the bridge.

My Answer>> After her husband killed her, he chose wisely to dump her body off the bridge at that location knowing it was gonna be found. Her husband figured that if he killed his wife and dumped her remains there, that would make people think they really did commit suicide and the authorities can close the case. He figured than the authorities would get off his back. Obviously his plan worked, some people including you believed it.



Only humans commit suicide, no other species.

>>> I know that. But when somebody has been swindling people of money and than the cover is blown and the cops are about to charge him/her it is in their interest to fake a suicide so that the cops can close the case thinking the suspect is dead. Faking suicide will get the authorities off your back, case closed, suspect is dead. Think about it. The suspect can go on living a new life under a new identity.



It's not exactly a rational game plan, so how can anyone assert that the Emery's actions regarding the price of the weights, etc. was not LOGICAL?

My Answer>> If you're gonna kill yourself, I don't think you will even fuss about the little extra price of the adbominal weights you're buying man. Think about it. The shop owner noted to the police that Mrs Emery was quite pissed that it was pricier than she thought it would be. That tells me she did not plan on killing herself as she still valued saving money. Would you care about saving "a little" money if you're going to shoot yourself dead tonight?



And there was never any PROOF that the leg bone was not Adam Emery's. Unsolved Mysteries mentioned that one supposed expert thought it was too short, based on height estimates. There was no mention of prior x-rays that asserted Adam Emery's leg bone was longer than the one found. There was no followup testimony from other specialists that leg bones of that type are in direct proportion to the height of the individual, and could not vary.



My answer>>> The leg bone according to the forensic sciences examnations were determined to be a male no taller than 5'7". Adam Emery was over 6'1". They were not his. You can not have a person 6'1" with a leg bone that only males 5'7" generally have. And they were never genetically proven to be his. If you have conclusive proof that he is dead, like his remains with genetic testing or dental record matches, than I will say he is dead. Till now everything points to me that he is alive and faked his suicide and killed his wife to help with the ruse. Well seeing that you believe he is dead, his ruse has worked & conned some people. The leg bones could have belonged to a transient that jumped off the bridge because he was depressed. There are people who commit suicide by jumping off the bridges. Probably belonged to a stranger.



I'm certain the leg bone was indeed Adam Emery's. You conveniently overlooked my mention of the lounging leg bone, if it was not Adam Emery's. Any robust conspiratorial theory must account for that loose leg bone, and who it belongs to.


My Answer>>> I think those Forensic Scientists with college degrees and years of experience in this type of work can tell you that the leg bones are not his. I take their word for it, I being a laymen, they being professional with forensics who know what they are talking about.

Right after their abandoned car was found, that river was THOROUGHLY SEARCHED THROUGH AND THROUGH, and nothing was found! except a male leg bone that was determined to be a male unidentified stranger 5'7" and under. Adam Emery was well over 6'1".
If she had commited suicide wouldn't they have found her remains right away????????? Doesn't make sense.



So after a time being, with all the leads strongly pointing to a FAKE suicide pact (Part of the Emery's ruse to mislead authorities so that Adam could escaping serving 20 years to life in prison), Adam killed his wife. He than dumped her remains into that river where he knew it would be found. Her remains by genetic testing and dental record matching has PROVEN POSITIVELY to be Mrs Emery.

I say he's alive.

I'm really on the fence about whether Adam Emery is alive. I keep getting this bizarre picture in my mind of him and Elena standing on the edge of the bridge and jumping off at the count of 3. When Elena jumps after 3, he just stands there. One thing that did occur to me though. If Adam didn't jump he would need some help with money and transportation possibly from his family to be living in hiding. If that was the case, his and her family both know now that Elena is dead, so that wouldn't make him look too good in their eyes.

I havent seen this episode but i know something for sure: if theres a chance of Adam being alive, authorities shouldnt have certified his death, did they?

Maybe certain details about this incident had been kept from UM, or maybe UM didnt show some facts that would make the case less mysterious (i know this sounds like blasphemy here, but its a common practice in media industry, boring stories dont sell!!!)

Theres a way to be sure about the leg: What about DNA tests?

Maybe the case is solved now but we'll never know since there arent more updates...

If they searched the water as thoroughly as they say, where is the rest of Elena? It's very possible his body is with the rest of hers.
I get the impression he wasn't a career criminal and just had one horrible night of anger and revenge. He killed an innocent man and maybe that was too much for him.

Thats why I think they committed suicide. Why they chose this way out I don't know and when someone is convicted, shouldn't they immediately go to prison? Very confused about laws and all the details.

I'm 100 % with Trailblazer on this one. I do not think Adam is dead and I do agree he killed his wife.

I think Adam is alive and well some where, hopefully no where near me. I think he killed his wife either that or they both went there to do it togather and he chickened out afer she jumped in. But that is just my opinion.

And as for the car and Id's being found that was just part of the setup he probably has a new identity, I think he planned on not jumping and letting her go ahead with it. This is just a sad case to begin with.

Teresa

Old thread, but I just watched the segment. I think it's very likely Adam is still alive and didn't commit suicide. Even before I read the replies on this forum, I thought it's likely he let her jump by herself or he pushed her. It's very likely he survived the night, IMO.

I think he found a look-alike and that man and Elena jumped to their deaths (or were "murdered") to throw police off their trail so Adam could run off and hide/start a new life. The leg bones found in the bay were from a male no taller than 5'7. Adam Emery is 6'1. I don't see the need for anyone to jump off a bridge to cover for a killer, why couldn't they both just have fled and not just Adam? She gave up her life so Adam could live as a criminal on the run? Love, if you can call it that, makes people do strange things.

I don't agree with Elena jumping off with a lookalike, though I think that's an interesting theory. Him being alive makes me think they may have really had a suicide pact and she jumped, he didn't or that he killed/pushed her and fled. He could ,of course, be dead in the water but I think it's likely he's on the run hoping people think he's dead. I'm just not 100% convinced either way.

As more years pass, the greater the probability is that Adam Emery is deceased.

I remember posting on another thread that at least some of the members of the victim's family believed that Adam and Elena staged their deaths and escaped. They felt that the skull that was found was not that of Elena's, and that the dental records on which the ID was made were bogus (not sure how they could have pulled it off). They also believed that the Emery family were complicit in the cover-up, and perhaps helped them disappear.

IMO, they both jumped to their deaths.

I've always grappled with this one because of the lack of sound and unbiased biographical information available about Adam and Elena Emery.

The UM segment paints them both as total scumbags, but I've always been somewhat skeptical of the presentation. That being said, I do not at all condone Adam Emery's actions in the killing of Jason Bass. It was wrong, unjustified, and I believe Adam is guilty and should have faced the music without question. However, here is a man who has no prior criminal history or other known skirmishes with the law. He's out on a date and someone crashes in to his car and knowingly, blatantly, flees the scene. Adam gives chase and ends up following and confronting the wrong person - Jason Bass. Bass rightfully denies hitting Emery's car, but Adam is certain he's found the guy who not only hit his car and attempted to flee, but is now probably vehemently denying he did anything wrong. The situation escalates to a physical assault and Jason is killed. Is it wrong? Absolutely. However, I wonder if Adam Emery didn't just "snap" in the heat of the moment and this whole thing could have been avoided if he had just taken a few minutes to "cool down" and realize the ramifications of what he was doing.

I think it is possible that Adam and Elena did plan on committing suicide if Adam was convicted. Realistically, if that was their plan, this would have been their only chance to do so, since he's likely off to prison following the sentencing hearing.

Did Adam murder his wife or somehow trick her in to jumping first? It's not impossible. Again though, I don't think we know enough about Adam's psychological profile to say for sure what he would do under the circumstances. Keep in mind, we're talking about someone with no criminal background and no known history of violence. The murder of Jason Bass clearly wasn't premeditated, and was a situation that I feel probably could have been easily avoided. The murder of Elena would have required premeditation on some level. Also, given what little we know about the intricacies of their relationship and marriage, I don't feel comfortable making assumptions.

Should the cops still be looking for Adam or his body? Absolutely. Doing the opposite would only reinforce to others that a fake suicide is a viable "way out" and potential answer to legal troubles. That is a dangerous message to send.

Is Adam's body in the water? Given what we know, I say, probably. I'm also not surprised that the Bass family would continue to believe Adam Emery is alive. With Adam dead, no one is punished for Jason's death. Believing that Adam is out there walking the street provides some faint hope that, just perhaps, one day, justice will be served. However, I think given the time that has elapsed without sightings of or contact from Adam Emery, and also the discovery of Elena's body in addition to the leg bone from an adult male, and I think all signs point toward him being in the water.

Here is a semi-recent article and video pertaining to the case...

http://www2.turnto10.com/news/2010/apr/19/presumed_dead_emery_back_on_fbi_list-ar-111059/?referer=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CFgQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.turnto10.com%2Far%2F111059%2F&ei=4e0OULqVK8O-2gWC44DQCQ&usg=AFQjCNFefK9OqdojZx_ZUXi5swu0cp1nhw&sig2=_ram6K1czYb4F6F3kiZ8nw&shorturl=http://bit.ly/hAoZkO


The short version is Adam Emery was legally declared dead in 2004. However, the FBI remains unconvinced and added him to their wanted list.

I think he found a look-alike and that man and Elena jumped to their deaths (or were "murdered") to throw police off their trail so Adam could run off and hide/start a new life. The leg bones found in the bay were from a male no taller than 5'7. Adam Emery is 6'1. I don't see the need for anyone to jump off a bridge to cover for a killer, why couldn't they both just have fled and not just Adam? She gave up her life so Adam could live as a criminal on the run? Love, if you can call it that, makes people do strange things.

Why a look alike? That doesn't really add up. The leg bone was dated before they supposedly killed themselves, so it's extremely likely the bone didn't belong to Adam.

Sorry but the look alike theory is simply ridiculous. It is a safe bet that he died with his wife. It is not terribly unusual for a jumper to never be found.

I would presume the FBI must have credible evidence that he is still alive,or they wouldn't have put him back on the wanted list?
I wonder what evidence they have...

I would presume the FBI must have credible evidence that he is still alive,or they wouldn't have put him back on the wanted list?
I wonder what evidence they have...

I thought about this too. I wonder if it's more because of a lack of evidence of his death. No body equals the possibility that he's still alive. Like I said in an earlier post, I think it would be ill advised for the authorities to not still be looking for Emery, dead or alive.

Technically, I think the Alctraz escapees and D.B. Cooper are still "wanted" too and the odds of their survival are slim to none.

Should the cops still be looking for Adam or his body? Absolutely. Doing the opposite would only reinforce to others that a fake suicide is a viable "way out" and potential answer to legal troubles. That is a dangerous message to send.

I appreciate the sentiment here justins5256, but realistically, this all happened, what, nearly 20 years ago? They've searched the river; it's unlikely, after all this time, that they would find any more than they previously found. And with no solid evidence that he is alive - combined with the circumstantial evidence that he is dead - well, let's just say that law enforcement resources are not unlimited, and the police have to chase down the probable, not the "remotely possible."

I'm afraid this is one of those cases where, if Adam managed to fake it this convincingly, he's going to get away with it.

I appreciate the sentiment here justins5256, but realistically, this all happened, what, nearly 20 years ago? They've searched the river; it's unlikely, after all this time, that they would find any more than they previously found. And with no solid evidence that he is alive - combined with the circumstantial evidence that he is dead - well, let's just say that law enforcement resources are not unlimited, and the police have to chase down the probable, not the "remotely possible."

All I meant was the heat the needs to stay on. Realistically, I wouldn't expect much is going on now with the case. However, the occasional media coverage, like what was done two years ago reminding the public that Emery is still a fugitive, certainly can't hurt.

[QUOTE=justins5256]I've always grappled with this one because of the lack of sound and unbiased biographical information available about Adam and Elena Emery.

The UM segment paints them both as total scumbags, but I've always been somewhat skeptical of the presentation. That being said, I do not at all condone Adam Emery's actions in the killing of Jason Bass. It was wrong, unjustified, and I believe Adam is guilty and should have faced the music without question. However, here is a man who has no prior criminal history or other known skirmishes with the law. He's out on a date and someone crashes in to his car and knowingly, blatantly, flees the scene. Adam gives chase and ends up following and confronting the wrong person - Jason Bass. Bass rightfully denies hitting Emery's car, but Adam is certain he's found the guy who not only hit his car and attempted to flee, but is now probably vehemently denying he did anything wrong. The situation escalates to a physical assault and Jason is killed. Is it wrong? Absolutely. However, I wonder if Adam Emery didn't just "snap" in the heat of the moment and this whole thing could have been avoided if he had just taken a few minutes to "cool down" and realize the ramifications of what he was doing.QUOTE]

I don't know Justin, I can't really buy Adam and Elena as pillars of society. Didn't Elena shout "kill him, kill him" or something to that effect? And Adam could have ignored his wife, but chose not to. This was all over a minor fender bender in which nobody was hurt, and the Emery car was still driveable, so at worst, their car sustained minor damage. Adam hunted him down, pulled out a knife, and used it. And unless Adam got a license plate # (which he didn't), he sould have realized there is no way he can be positive he got the right car.

I think another big thing for me is Adam getting into a minor argument on the day of his supposed death at the sporting goods store was it? Probably not the actions of someone planning to die. I think it's likely that Adam either killed Elena or fooled her into jumping, thus meaning he's killed at least 2 people.

..or elena could have died, and adam disposed of her body there,if that's what happened.it doesn't necessarily mean he killed her.I'm just trying to consider all possibilities,even though she was young n healthy.keeping in mind though,that seeing a dr, if either one of them got sick,was probably not an option.
or she could have killed herself,thinking adam would follow suit when he found her.sort of a romeo and juliet,if you will.

I would agree that an adult should have handled that differently...get his license no.,call the police and let them handle it.In no way shape or form do you ever whip out a knife and use it.had jason hit him first then I could see how he would be justifed in defending himself (but with his fists,not a weapon).but this was just inexcusable and should have been handled in an adult manner,the way any hit n run should be handled,with the help of police.

From what I've read, Elena was the stronger-willed of the 2 and effectively guided the couple's decision-making. Based on his actions and demeanor, it did not appear likely that Adam would decide to bolt w/o her. Also, Adam did not appear to be the sharpest tool in the shed; and if he did flee, I don't see him as being able to elude authorities or the public for very long. Since her remains were found, it's logical to presume that he followed.

George Zimmerman's case reminds me a lot of Adam Emery. He didn't have to pursue the person he ultimately killed. It should serve as a reminder to everyone, if you're threatened with serious bodily harm or death, fight like hell. If the person who wronged you is running away, don't pursue, call the police. Most of the time the person is so dumb, he or she will be caught quickly.

I don't know Justin, I can't really buy Adam and Elena as pillars of society. Didn't Elena shout "kill him, kill him" or something to that effect? And Adam could have ignored his wife, but chose not to. This was all over a minor fender bender in which nobody was hurt, and the Emery car was still driveable, so at worst, their car sustained minor damage. Adam hunted him down, pulled out a knife, and used it. And unless Adam got a license plate # (which he didn't), he sould have realized there is no way he can be positive he got the right car.

I think another big thing for me is Adam getting into a minor argument on the day of his supposed death at the sporting goods store was it? Probably not the actions of someone planning to die. I think it's likely that Adam either killed Elena or fooled her into jumping, thus meaning he's killed at least 2 people.

I agree. Even if they weren't necessarily "bad eggs", there was evidently a lot of wrath coursing through the Emerys' veins at the time of the crime. And not an understandable nor acceptable amount.

I think part of why I find Adam Emery so despicable is that he showed absolutely NO remorse for what he had done. He stabbed a young man he thought had hit his car, only to discover that Jason had nothing to do with it (of course even if he had, it's a terrible crime) and wan't even--by all appearances-- sorry about it. So if he is out there, I hope they get him for what he's done and to spare anyone else from that rage. I've never been 100% convinced either way, but as time passes I lean more toward Adam being in the water and that's really what I think is the case now. I think it's totally plausible that his body wouldn't be found in those waters. After all, haven't they only found part of Elena's body? We really have no evidence to prove that he pushed Elena or pretended to jump with her and backed out (a chilling thought!) or anything along those lines, but I can't help but wonder if either of those scenarios occured, either.

I grew up near where this happened. The Emerys were total scumbags--completely arrogant and insisted they were "right" to kill this kid over minor property damage. (Turns out they got the wrong guy, but that didn't stop Adam from being a schmuck during the trial)

I believe Elena killed herself and he walked away from the bridge. He's probably living in Italy (the family has connections there, IIRC).

He's too much of a narcissist to kill himself, IMO.

I grew up near where this happened. The Emerys were total scumbags--completely arrogant and insisted they were "right" to kill this kid over minor property damage. (Turns out they got the wrong guy, but that didn't stop Adam from being a schmuck during the trial)

I believe Elena killed herself and he walked away from the bridge. He's probably living in Italy (the family has connections there, IIRC).

He's too much of a narcissist to kill himself, IMO.

I believe Elena was born in Italy, so her family is likely there. But here's the issue: if her family was aware of her death and/or Adam being alive without her, would they really be willing to help him? They likely might blame Adam for her death and would probably decide to severe ties with him.

Honestly, I think Adam is dead, his remains in that same river but have yet to be recovered. Only a few fragments of Elena's remains were found, so it is possible that the rest of her and Adam's remains could have been spread over the Narragansett Bay.

I believe Elena was born in Italy, so her family is likely there. But here's the issue: if her family was aware of her death and/or Adam being alive without her, would they really be willing to help him? They likely might blame Adam for her death and would probably decide to severe ties with him.

Honestly, I think Adam is dead, his remains in that same river but have yet to be recovered. Only a few fragments of Elena's remains were found, so it is possible that the rest of her and Adam's remains could have been spread over the Narragansett Bay.

^^This.^^

It's another hot topic on the boards right now, but the majority of people on here feel that Bryan Nisenfeld committed suicide. Yet only his shin bone was located.

Why is THIS case any different from Bryan's, especially if they both involve someone jumping off a bridge?

Imo think he is dead. If anyone in his or Elena's family were giving him money FBI would have traced it.

The FBI and Rhode Island state police are actively looking for Adam Emery. He remains on the FBI's 'most wanted violent criminals' list.

I'm not at all convinced he's dead, because there's no proof of that. I've seen this called a "conspiracy theory" which is a bit silly when the head investigator on the case said as recently as 2016 that "we don't know" if he's dead. Also there is no proof of conspiracy. For all we know Adam Emery fled on his own.

Regarding the leg bone - it was immediately clear the height did not match. The authorities were not at all convinced it was Emery. Suicides are a regular occurrence from Newport Bridge, so there's no reason to believe it was him.

I think he killed Elena to give credence to the idea that they had both committed suicide.

The FBI and Rhode Island state police are actively looking for Adam Emery. He remains on the FBI's 'most wanted violent criminals' list.

I'm not at all convinced he's dead, because there's no proof of that. I've seen this called a "conspiracy theory" which is a bit silly when the head investigator on the case said as recently as 2016 that "we don't know" if he's dead. Also there is no proof of conspiracy. For all we know Adam Emery fled on his own.

Regarding the leg bone - it was immediately clear the height did not match. The authorities were not at all convinced it was Emery. Suicides are a regular occurrence from Newport Bridge, so there's no reason to believe it was him.

Scary post. The argument that he is still alive is conspiratorial caliber.

Authorities everywhere can be knuckleheads, with zero clue toward probability, and conspiratorial caliber. I guarantee plenty of them also believed those fake news stories last year. And next year. What they believe means nothing when basic common sense is near void.

I love reading my post on page one. I hadn't seen it in years. Much appreciate this bump.

And I'm hungry.

Scary post. The argument that he is still alive is conspiratorial caliber.

Authorities everywhere can be knuckleheads, with zero clue toward probability, and conspiratorial caliber. I guarantee plenty of them also believed those fake news stories last year. And next year. What they believe means nothing when basic common sense is near void.

I love reading my post on page one. I hadn't seen it in years. Much appreciate this bump.

And I'm hungry.

The authorities would love to confirm he's dead, and then the FBI and Rhode Island police can all put away their tin foil hats and so can I.

But, they never have because there is no evidence he's dead, and you have not referred to any evidence in your sneering post. The victim's family are not satisfied he's dead either, I guess you can sneer at them as well.

If you disagree that's fine. But argue based on facts, not labeling. If there is any convincing evidence he's dead I would happily change my stance.

Again, there's no body. While we are talking about fake news, it would seem you believe the Rumsfeldian "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".

I feel like law enforcement did their job in this case, as did the prosecutor. I see no reason to accuse them of incompetence. The real knucklehead in this case was the judge who let this man out on bail after his conviction as he awaited sentencing. That should have never happened, or I wouldn't be arguing with a stranger on the internet right now about this.

I never understood why the judge allowed Emery free pre-sentencing. Cynthia Bass posted this in the comments section of an Rhode Island Monthly article on Adam Emery. The link to the comment is gone now, so I'm reposting it here:

ADAM EMERY IS A LIVE AND WELL ACCORDING TO HIS NEPHEW . QUOTING A CARD THAT WAS MAILED TO ADAM'S FATHER , WHICH IS THE YOUNG MANS GRANDFATHER. HE SAID QUOTE " IM SORRY , AND IM OK . I WON'T BE CONTACTING YOU AGAIN . I WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR THIS AS IT WAS TOLD TO ME BY MY DAUGHTER . MY HUSBAND WAS RAYMOND BASS, THE BROTHER OF JASON BASS THE YOUNG MAN ADAM EMERY MURDERED IN AUG. OF 1990 . I LEFT A VOICE MESSAGE WITH THE A.G. OFFICE I BELEIVE IT WAS THE SUMMER OF 2006 . NO ONE RETURNED MY CALL . I EXPLAINED THAT I NEW OF A PERSON OF INTEREST RELATED TO THE EMERY / BASS MURDER CASE . OUR VOICE GOES UNHEARD . WHERE'S THE JUSTICE FOR JAY ! BUT WE STILL KEEP THE FAITH THAT SOMEDAY WE WILL HAVE ABSOLUTE CLOSURE . A BASS FAMILY MEMBER , CYNTHIA BASS - DENONCOUR

The card was most likely a hoax, but there's never been any evidence of Emery's remains in that area. My guess is that Elena encouraged him into the suicide in a similar fashion to how she encouraged him to attack Bass over a fender bender.

This is a case where I want to be proven wrong, BUT I do believe he is dead. Case closed in my mind.

However, it would be great to find out I was wrong, and he was discovered elsewhere.

I always figured he agreed to go along with the suicide pact, all the while planning not to do so. She jumped first, he didn't follow and she quickly realized this in the final moments of her life. Again, just my opinion.
He seemed cold and calculating enough that he would have disappeared by any means necessary. I think the guy is still alive.
After this long, any extra bone fragments very well could have floated far out into the Atlantic.

I always figured he agreed to go along with the suicide pact, all the while planning not to do so. She jumped first, he didn't follow and she quickly realized this in the final moments of her life. Again, just my opinion.
He seemed cold and calculating enough that he would have disappeared by any means necessary. I think the guy is still alive.
After this long, any extra bone fragments very well could have floated far out into the Atlantic.

Absolutely! This is my theory too. He needed her to die so it would seem like he killed himself as well.

We don't know enough about the psychological profile of Adam Emery to know whether he would stand there and let his wife jump. Given the lack of criminal history and/or violence in the husband and wife relationship and the fact that nothing has surfaced in all the years suggests he's in the water.

Yes, but the cold-blooded SOB also committed murder for no reason and was absolutely remorseless. That's all I need to know about the guy to figure he is capable of anything.

Yes, but the cold-blooded SOB also committed murder for no reason and was absolutely remorseless. That's all I need to know about the guy to figure he is capable of anything.

He killed a stranger in a fit of rage. There is a huge difference between that and letting someone you're romantically involved with jump to their death.

He killed a stranger in a fit of rage. There is a huge difference between that and letting someone you're romantically involved with jump to their death.

That hardly tells the whole story.

I assume you're implying he was incapable of coldly sacrificing his wife - his lack of remorse for killing an innocent boy proves otherwise.

Good lord....how can anyone defend that creep?! Emery was (and likely still is) pure evil.

I never said I support what he did. Clearly, killing an innocent man, Jason Bass in this case, was wrong. All I'm saying is we have a situation where a guy snapped and killed a stranger in the midst of an altercation and there is a big difference between that and killing your spouse especially with no known history of spousal abuse or violence in the marriage or even a criminal background (to my knowledge).

Lacking evidence of psychopathy, I just can't make that leap (no pun intended) but for some reason people can and they usually tend to insert a lot of emotion into their opinions/arguments which only serves to cloud and distort things. Bottom line is that he seemed like an otherwise ordinary guy and not some diabolical cold and calculating criminal genius who would would be able to escape detection all these years.

Bottom line is that he seemed like an otherwise ordinary guy

Narcissists usually do seem ordinary, and I think that's the mistake people make. You see a young white guy from New England with a pretty wife and assume he is incapable of doing anything beyond this single road rage incident. I think the judge in this case probably shared your view, which is what led him to make the unconscionable decision to set him free as he awaited sentencing.

Remember that Adam Emery had every opportunity to express how sorry he was for killing Jason Bass, even when presented with the fact that he had done nothing to him. No apology to the family. Just "I had to defend myself". That unmasked him as the monster he really was underneath. Also worth noting the authorities in this case have described Emery as a narcissist who would never kill himself. This goes well beyond "inserting emotion into an argument", it is just basic psychological profiling. The authorities were right; the judge who released him as he awaited sentencing was clearly wrong. Emery displayed textbook narcissistic behavior.

I don't agree with people who think he's dead, because of the absence of evidence, but I can at least understand that view.

But I don't see how Emery can be anything other than one of the most awful human beings ever profiled on UM.

and not some diabolical cold and calculating criminal genius who would would be able to escape detection all these years.

It does not take a criminal genius to escape detection for an extended period of time. Many UM cases demonstrate that. Gloria Schulze leaps to mind. There's nothing remarkable about her, yet she has avoided detection for nearly 25 years. She could hardly be called a criminal genius, but like Emery, she killed an innocent young person without remorse and was willing to abandon the life she knew to avoid paying for her crime.

Jon, you are spot-on as usual.

I don't believe that Adam Emery was a "normal guy" in the least because every single one of his reactions was so over-the-top and completely outrageous. Even if Jason Bass *had* been the one to sideswipe him, it still doesn't justify tracking the guy down and killing him. And we know Adam didn't go there with the intentions of hugging it out. The Emerys were well off people. The accident was merely a mild setback in their otherwise privileged lives. They could have remained calm, have insurance pay for the repairs and be on their merry way. Instead, they had to take everything to the extreme.

I really don't get why some people are certain Adam is dead. He killed a person, and instead of manning up and facing the consequences, he takes the chicken way out. Nothing the guy did during this entire sequence of events was normal. He argued with a sports store cashier over the price of items. If you're going to kill yourself, who does that?

It's hilarious that the notion of Adam Every still alive continues to make appearances on this board. If anything, the trend has upticked.

Now that's scary.

I expect brutal thinking like that from law enforcement personnel, where low to non existent percentaging is paranoid par for the course, if not encouraged.

It should not happen on specialized forums like this.

The word normal was used. Let's see, your wife jumps to her death alongside you, but you get out of there despite leaving the car and other belongings on the bridge, and nobody sees or hears from you in subsequent decades, other than typical crackpot sightings, the ones those brilliant detectives are so eager to chase.

Yeah, that's the normal scenario.

The Whopper offer still stands. No cheese.

Hmmmm. If Adam's death was so obvious, you have to wonder why Unsolved Mysteries chose to present it. Better change the title to Solved Mysteries.

It's hilarious that the notion of Adam Every still alive continues to make appearances on this board. If anything, the trend has upticked.

Now that's scary.

I expect brutal thinking like that from law enforcement personnel, where low to non existent percentaging is paranoid par for the course, if not encouraged.

It should not happen on specialized forums like this.

The word normal was used. Let's see, your wife jumps to her death alongside you, but you get out of there despite leaving the car and other belongings on the bridge, and nobody sees or hears from you in subsequent decades, other than typical crackpot sightings, the ones those brilliant detectives are so eager to chase.

Yeah, that's the normal scenario.

The Whopper offer still stands. No cheese.

How's the view from your perch? Must be nice to live up there above the rest of us.

We get it. Law enforcement are idiots. Anyone who doesn't share your opinion is a crackpot or moron. We're all beneath you and should be holding your piss bucket.

That completely explains why you overestimate the value of your own opinion.

When I was discussing this case with justins5256, while I strongly disagreed with him, I have complete respect for his opinion because he contributes a lot to this forum and always comes from a place of reason. He doesn't label or sneer at people either, which seems to be your main reason for being here, to pop in to a thread and remind everyone that you're smarter than all of us, without actually contributing anything of substance to the conversation.

You have tainted some my enjoyment of discussing this show that I like so much simply by being a complete horse's ass, so I suppose you have accomplished something.

You know, it is possible to state your opinion without denigrating those who have a different one.

Chill out, Awsi, the fact that you don't like cheese on your burgers is proof enough that not everything you think and feel is correct. Cheese-less burgers is just crazy talk.