Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the show really take a nose dive after she left? I'm sure the producers kicked themselves for letting her get away. I'd be willing to bet that it'd still be on the air if she had stayed. Everybody that I ever talk to says the show wasn't as good after she left, and I wholeheartedly agree!

hmmm interesting thought there Thrill but I think you may be a little off in the head. While Ms Bliss was indeed a true acting genius she did not make the show what it is! Screech and Violet were indeed the best characters on the show, they added the wild and zanyness that the show needed to survive in saturday morning primetime, and I also thought it was a shame that they got rid of Milo from the Ms Bliss years. He added a strong stable sidekick to Mr Belding. I think Ms Bliss just got too big for her britches (as I like to say) after winning two Cable Ace Awards for Saved by the Bell, and thought she could do better elsewhere.

.

The Show was on the Disney Channel and Hayley mills was a big draw at that time from the "Parent trap II" movie (1988-1989). The show lasted as long as it did, and when NBC bought the show, they had to change a whole lot of stuff around. Basically, the Miss Bliss year was a totally different show, but some of the same characters. Now you know why the Miss Bliss years were not on the Season 1 DVD. THEY JUST ADDED THE SAVED BY THE BELL TAG!

What is this prejudice that people have against British actresses? I thought we were past that kind of thing in this country! I honestly think that's the reason the producers got rid of her, because her acting talent was so far above that of the rest of the crew. Sure Mr. Belding and the original Max were comedic geniouses in their fields, but the rest of those losers could never hold a candle to Ms. Bliss. So can we please put this British-actress bashing to rest?! (yes, that means you Maxamillion)

Wo wo wo Thrill. Chill a minute. I have absolutely no problem with British actors. When they come on shows such as Saved By the Bell they bring down the whole childrens sitcom industry. So they basically had to repackage the whole show.

Stop making up rumors. There are no court papers of child molestation on the set of "Good Morning Miss Bliss," or "Saved By The Bell."


SEE POST AT BOTTOM
And the Coverup continues!! Of course there are not any papers Geek!!! It was a coverup settled out of court. It never went to court and charges were not filed!I know Max personally! Believe what you want but myself, Max, Franco Bario and Peter Engel know the truth.

What a liar you are Maxamillion! The lawsuit involved Zack's mom, not Miss Bliss. I think you already knew that but for some reason you have this vendetta against Miss Bliss and you'll do whatever you can to make her look bad. Get your facts straight next time.

For all those TRUE fans of Miss Bliss (who live in the Sioux City, Iowa area) she'll be appearing in the stage version of Hoosiers as Myra Fleener at the Civic Center November 2-8. I'm gonna be there and I'll be sure to post a review.

And the Coverup continues!! Of course there are not any papers Geek!!! It was a coverup settled out of court. It never went to court and charges were not filed!I know Max personally! Believe what you want but myself, Max, Franco Bario and Peter Engel know the truth.

I think the show TOTALLY improved after the Miss Bliss years.

Originally posted by Maxamillion
And the Coverup continues!! Of course there are not any papers Geek!!! It was a coverup settled out of court. It never went to court and charges were not filed!I know Max personally! Believe what you want but myself, Max, Franco Bario and Peter Engel know the truth.

I don't think it's easy just to "settle" a child molestation charge outside of court. It's not possible. The victims parents will NEVER do that, unless the molester is Michael Jackson, or if they are just lying.

Stop making up such strong allegations. You don't want to get banned.

Fair enough Geek. I dont want to get banned and I will drop it. But I am not making this up and these are not allegations. I am a close friend of his wife Isabella and this is the story I have gotten. The parents did not cause a fuss because they are immigrants from Italy who did not want to jeopardize there future in America.

haleys sister juliet is on my favorite soap called passions she plays tabitha lenox on there just thought i would mention that incase some of you didnt know

You GOT to be kidding me! When Miss Bliss was on there, that show was PURE GARBAGE!!! The original show (Good Morning Miss Bliss) aired on Disney Channel. However, the show didn't do too good after the season was over (I think after 11 episodes), and Disney Channel dropped it. Then NBC looked at the idea, and they revamped the show a bit (thus adding Kelly, Jessie, and Slater)! I think it was a helluva lot better AFTER her and the other dry looking kids (Nikki and the other guy) left!

P.S. It has NOTHING to do w/her being a British actress. I've like movies she's been in, but I just didn't like her on THIS show.

amen!!!!! Guccidiva!!! amen!!!!!!

What you people seem to forget is that with Ms. Bliss the show was being groomed to be moved to NBC's Thursday night lineup to replace the Cosby Show. What became immediately evident (to Ms. Bliss and to viewers) was that they didn't give her the supporting cast to make the show a success. No wonder it was left in the graveyard of Saturday morning TV once she left. SBTB could've been bigger than ALF. Following is an excerpt from a TV Guide Fall Preview "Cheers and Jeers" section that I saved...

"JEERS - To the producers of Saved By The Bell. How could they let an international talent like Hayley Mills get away? For a once-promising sitcom that had hit written all over it, Mills's departure has left a void that her fresh-faced replacements can't possibly fill. The new version makes Land of the Lost look like quality TV."

Need I say more?

Originally posted by theTHRILL
What you people seem to forget is that with Ms. Bliss the show was being groomed to be moved to NBC's Thursday night lineup to replace the Cosby Show. What became immediately evident (to Ms. Bliss and to viewers) was that they didn't give her the supporting cast to make the show a success. No wonder it was left in the graveyard of Saturday morning TV once she left. SBTB could've been bigger than ALF. Following is an excerpt from a TV Guide Fall Preview "Cheers and Jeers" section that I saved...



Need I say more?

No, what you don't understand is that while Miss Bliss was on the show it ONLY aired on Disney! They dropped the show, and Haley Mills didn't want to continue the show, and then NBC bought the show. I seriously doubt that "Good Morning, Miss Bliss" could've replaced "The Cosby Show"! That was one good show, and "Good Morning, Miss Bliss" was some bull****! SBTB was SUPERB when Haley Mills got off! If it wasn't, why would people STILL be so into the show?!

I understand that you liked it better w/Miss Bliss; however, I still stand by my opinion that she didn't do the show ANY justice! It doesn't matter who her supporting cast members were, she just wasn't the type of actress for that show. I think she was a main part of the reason why the show was so boring and dull!

The fact of the matter is that Saved By The Bell was originally called Good Morning, Miss Bliss. And if the show lasted 6 seasons, then it most certainly could not have taken a nose dive in ratings or otherwise. Personally, I think The New Class show was a bad idea. But other than that, I loved the show's characters. Zach was my favorite becausse he reminded me a lot of myself. I was always concocting a crazy idea and I almost never stayed out of trouble. My mother says that technically I am still punished(until I am 50).

I wouldn't consider a show that lasts 6 seasons on SATURDAY MORNING to be a success. If you'd take off your anti-British actress blinders you'd know that the show would've lasted much longer, in PRIME TIME I might add, if Miss Bliss had stayed. The fact that the episode "Parents And Teachers" (which featured Ms. Bliss prominently) was the highest rated ever for the series should tell you something.

Originally posted by theTHRILL
I wouldn't consider a show that lasts 6 seasons on SATURDAY MORNING to be a success. If you'd take off your anti-British actress blinders you'd know that the show would've lasted much longer, in PRIME TIME I might add, if Miss Bliss had stayed. The fact that the episode "Parents And Teachers" (which featured Ms. Bliss prominently) was the highest rated ever for the series should tell you something.

You're really getting beyond annoying here. Just because some people don't like the Miss Bliss episodes as much, doesn't mean they are anti-British! You need to accept that other people will have different opinions than you!

Originally posted by theTHRILL
I wouldn't consider a show that lasts 6 seasons on SATURDAY MORNING to be a success. If you'd take off your anti-British actress blinders you'd know that the show would've lasted much longer, in PRIME TIME I might add, if Miss Bliss had stayed. The fact that the episode "Parents And Teachers" (which featured Ms. Bliss prominently) was the highest rated ever for the series should tell you something.

What does it matter about which day it came on :rolleyes:?! Oh my gosh, you're BEYOND stupid :eek:! Maybe you're illiterate or something, but I've ALREADY made it known that it has nothing to do w/Haley Mills being BRITISH :mad:! I've liked some movies she's played in, but I thought that the show sucked w/her on there :mad:! Where she's from has NOTHING to do w/it. You're trying to make it into something it TOTALLY has nothing to do with :mad:!!!

I dont think that anti-British comment was necessary. I am not against British actors at all. I am just saying that the show did better having premises around the students rather than the teacher. You really ought to relax. :confused:

No one has said they were against British actors/actresses! That's just theTHRILLS trying to make something out of nothing :rolleyes:!

It looks like I really hit a nerve with my anti-British actress comments. I guess the truth hurts.

OK, since everyone is SO sure that SBTB was better AFTER Ms Bliss, why don't we put it to a vote?

Was SBTB better WITH Ms Bliss or WITHOUT?

WITH

Although I do disagree with thaThrill about the whole Ms Bliss being the shows savior. I do believe that the show got a little bit better once they booted her, not much, but it was a step in the right direction. However I do agree with Thrill in that british actors do take a bad rap in this country. These actors are highly trained and I believe that American actors take exception to the fact that the british actors are head and shoulders above them when it comes to acting talent. The American actors are insecure and feel the need to belittle the brits in an attempt to make themeselves look better. No wonder Europe hates us!!! Lets stop this tomfoolery and move on as a TV Nation!

I'm glad you've seen the light Max. One only has to think of the butler from Fresh Prince and Mr. Belvedere to realize that the only time British actors are used is as the butt of jokes. And don't even get me started on Mr. Bentley from the Jeffersons. Just because you say a problem doesn't exist doesn't make it so.

Originally posted by theTHRILL
It looks like I really hit a nerve with my anti-British actress comments. I guess the truth hurts.


It looks like you hit nothing, except making people think you're even more stupid than they had originally thought.

Originally posted by theTHRILL
I'm glad you've seen the light Max. One only has to think of the butler from Fresh Prince and Mr. Belvedere to realize that the only time British actors are used is as the butt of jokes. And don't even get me started on Mr. Bentley from the Jeffersons. Just because you say a problem doesn't exist doesn't make it so.

A problem DOESN'T exist to me. Listen, I don't give a damn WHERE an actor/actress comes from as long as they're GOOD :mad:! It's impossible to talk to morons like you b/c you are quick to ASSume that people are prejudice, when that's clearly NOT the reason people disliked the show while she was on there. Therefore I'm done talking to you about this b/c it's obvious you don't comprehend very well!!! Therefore, you ARE the weakest link... GOODBYE :wave: :lol:!!!!!!!!!

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Originally posted by theTHRILL
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Sorry moron, it's (the river) correct name is THE NILE :p :lol:! You just want to argue don't ya' :confused: :rolleyes:?!

Gucci - Why'd you have to go and get personal? I came here to discuss the fact that SBTB went way down in terms of quality following Ms. Bliss's departure and somehow you end up calling me a moron. Is that some sort of debating technique of yours to try to belittle anyone who disagrees with you? I was hoping we could all be adults about this. I apologize if my opinions are too much for you to handle.

No, thrill, I called you a moron b/c that's what you were acting like. You're trying to make everyone out to be prejudice, and basically put words in our mouth simply b/c of YOUR thoughts of the situation. So, yes, I called you a moron! I accepted the fact that you did liked the show better w/Miss Bliss on there. However, you COULDN'T accept mine and other's opinions, and implied that it was for another reason. I tried to talk to you in an adult manner, but you just KEPT on rambling your own prejudices into other people's faces as if we felt that way. And why? Simply b/c you couldn't accept the fact that no one really agreed w/you!

Your apology is accepted Gucci. No hard feelings.

I am glad to see that the two of you can put your differences aside for the good of the Show and it was nice to see that Guccidiva reached out and apologized. It takes a big person to do that gucci and I am proud of you! Remember when we fight and name call (as guccidiva did) nobody wins!! We all do have one thing in common. Our love for a little show called Saved by the Bell. :cool:

Originally posted by theTHRILL
Your apology is accepted Gucci. No hard feelings.

In my previous post, I didn't apologize to you. However, I guess will accept your apology, and apologize to you as well.

I am sorry Gdiva. I thought you had apologized in that post. I must have misunderstood you or I would have never posted my response. However I never did hear Thrill apologize for his bullheadedness!!

Bullheadedness? Max, you're the one who ADMITTED earlier that you have a hatred towards British actors and actresses! But you're right, I NEVER apologized for anything because there's nothing to apologize for! This chicanery and deciet has got to stop! It's like Kelly said in Episode 36..."I hate it when people lie."

Max, I'll be the bigger person and actually leave this thread alone once again :D! No one has nothing to prove to this person who has his/her mind made up otherwise. Thrill, there are no hard feelings towards you! You liked the show w/Miss Bliss, and I didn't! There... accept it, and GET OVER IT! You and Maxamillion have a GREAT day today :) :wave:!!!

You want to take offense to being called a moron, but you dont find it offensive to call me an anti-brit. I took your comment personally. Do you understand what it is to be accused of being anti anything. First of all, you cant tell by what I'm typing what race I am. My father (God rest his soul) was British. So naturally, I dont have any problems with British actors.


Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so you are entitled to yours. But dont you think that you should use discernment when you're typing on this message board?

Is this "Thrill" person serious? He can't be. Just looking to stir arguments. Pre-Hayley Mills and Post-Hayley Mills episodes were two DIFFERENT shows.

Groomed to replace the Cosby Show? False. And who was getting molested where?

I also missed the "anti-Brit" talk. British actors are cool with me. "Mr Bean" Rowan Atkinson rules!!

Gil, you're obviously the one who is trying to stir things up.
Please point to where I said anything about Ms. Bliss being involved with molestation. That was another poster. I don't appreciate you trying to tarnish my reputation on this board by trying to associate someone else's comments as mine. That's either a dirty tactic or it indicates low intellect...either way it makes you look bad. How do the moderators let you get away with this stuff?

As for SBTB being groomed to take over for Cosby, not only was that fact reported on the E! True Hollywood Story, but it's also been widely discussed on this board in the past. Just because YOU don't THINK something is true doesn't make it so.

Not trying to stir trouble, just was blown away when I read the first post in this thread.

I wasn't saying that you said "Ms. Bliss" was molesting anyone, or that she was even involved in said "molestation". I just noticed talk about it (molestation of someone, by someone) throughout the thread, and was trying to figure out what was going on. I apologize if I inadvertently implicated you.

The show that was being considered to replace Cosby in the Thursday night slot was the SBTB college episodes. You made it seem like it was "Good Morning, Miss Bliss". I've always enjoyed Ms. Mills. I even hope her son's music career is blossoming. But, if you actually believe that the original premise would have evolved into a prime time series, well...........

I'm sure didn't lose any sleep about leaving the show.

Gil, your apology is accepted. Thanks for being big enough to admit you were wrong. No hard feelings.

As for the idea that Good Morning Ms Bliss being originally intended for Prime Time, you are right, that was not the idea because it was produced by Disney. HOWEVER, NBC bought the rights to the show with the idea in mind to nurture it on Saturday mornings and then move it to Thursdays following Cosby's departure. When Ms Bliss chose to leave the show due to creative differences with writers and other actors, NBC shelved the idea because they wouldn't have a big name (Halley Mills) to make it attractive for prime time adult viewers.

I was just making things clear for the comprehension-challenged. Don't think I was wrong about anything. Just noticed your avatar...I'll be staying away from posting anything about Ms Mills/Bliss. Keep supporting her, she always appeared to be one with a great deal of class.

It was actually me who brought up the molestation charges Gil. But it seems that due to censorship my post was cut down by the administration. No problem though I know what I know and I know the truth.

Maybe we should stop bashing Thrill for his Miss Bliss beliefs. It seems that he has a big crush on those Brit Actors/Actresses. I personally could care less for them and just wish they would all stay in Britian. The Miss Bliss thing could have never gotten big because of all the behind the scenes controversies. She had to go!

"Good Morning Miss Bliss" was never thought of to replace "The Cosby Show." Initially, the show was supposed to take over the timeslot left over by "The Facts of Life" in 1988. "GMMB" was not picked up by NBC, but by Disney. The only "GMMB" episode aired on NBC (not re-run) was the original pilot.

"GMMB" ran for one season on the Disney Channel. Towards late-1988, NBC came up with an idea to have timeblock for teenagers. That timeblock was TNBC on Saturday mornings. To kick off TNBC, NBC decided to take back "GMMB," but gave it a COMPLETE make-over. They got rid of most of the cast, INCLUDING Hailey Mills, and only kept the 4 cast members the audience liked the most--- Mark-Paul, Dustin, Lark, and Dennis Haskins.

"GMMB" was renamed, "Saved By The Bell," and now took place in Southern California. New cast members were added, and the show took off like a rocket. The new show was a success, and eventually moved to primetime in 1993.

The "Miss Bliss" series couldn't take off because it didn't have the "it" to attract the audience it wanted. It seemed like more middle-aged couples will watch, than actual pre-teens. The only controversy known of in the set of "GMMB," including Hailey Mills was the rumored "bickering" between her and Mark-Paul. That's it, no molestations.

Now that's the history of the show that I'm aware of. Also, setting the show in California had it's advantages over a place like Minneapolis.

Indianapolis! Not Minneapolis

I usually like the show, I only have some episodes of "Save By the Bell ('Good Morning, Ms. Bliss')" on one of the videos that I copied off of WPIX a few years ago with Hayley Mills. I found this picture from Bob Rellis' Hayley Mills site.