Okay, for all you folk who think the board has gotten a bit dreary lately -- let's debate!

Tons of posts have been made about Jo and Blair's fighting. Lots have been made about Warner's ego and how spoiled and rotten she could be.

Here's my thought: It seems to me that Natalie (yes, sweet little Nat!<gasp!> ) was actually meaner and more of a genuine brat than Blair.

When Nat got angry or jealous -- look out! She didn't just talk a mean game, she followed through! It didn't matter if the target was Tootie, her Grandmom, Blair ("Green Eyed Monster", "From Russia with Love", "Kids Can be Cruel") she just went for the jugular.

Remember in "The Affair" when she blasted Blair just because she was miffed at her dad? Or how about in "The Candidate" when she was willing to withold the truth just to get what she wanted? Remember the rotten things she said to her Mom in "Dearest Mommie"?

This is not to say that Blair was perfect. Far from it. However, she never made good on most of her threats and would apologize when she was wrong.

It takes more than money to make a spoiled brat.

Agree or disagree?

I would say that Tootie was the most spoiled one. Remember when she had the fit over the Jermaine Jackson concert or disobeyed Mrs. G and went to New York on her own. Tootie was the one who drank Blair's wine and got drunk. She was also mean to her Mother!!

She also got to move out of the Eastland dorms(along with Natalie) to live above Edna's Edibles and also tagged along with Natalie when Nat wanted to get her own place.

Yeah..I have to agree about Tootie. She was also the one who held the grudge about Mrs. Garett leaving Eastland. Even though she was adorable in the first season..she soemtimes wasn't such a angel in the upper seasons..

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i think they can all be spoiled(except for Jo)sometimes.I mean what you said about Tottie and Natile and then Blair always running to "Daddy".But I think it's cute.

Don't kill me when I say this, but I think that Jo was kind of spoiled, too. I mean, in 'Help From Home' she acted like a total brat when she slammed the door. And in 'The Secret' when she yelled at her father. This is just my opinion... anyone else?

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J: Bless you!
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J: Blair, I hit you.
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J: But, I've been talkin' to God about it, and He wanted me to do it.
~_~ Kenzie ~_~

Are we talking spoiled or selfish here? There is a difference.

I think that Tootie was the most spoiled, then Natalie. But, Tootie was just plain annoying when she whined. I lower my volume on the tv when a tooie whining moment comes on. Nat at least learned from her mistakes, at least more than Tootie.

Blair was not really spoiled, well she was in the way that she got eveything, but I think she was more UPPITY. There is a fifference. She was spoiled because that was how she was brought up - she was sued to gettin gthings so that was just her way. She was spoiled, but not SPOILED as in bratty spoiled. She was uppity.

I don't think Jo was selfish. She was however always on the defensive. But, can you really blame her? Like Blair, ahe was that way because that's how she grew up. Where she was, you couldn't trust anyone, so it was harder for her to "chill out". Also, the way she treated her father was because he head hurt her, and she never forgot that. She was agraid of being hurt again and also afraid of trust ing him, so she traeated him badly at first. In latter seasons she was very good to her dad and respected him greatly.

WHEW!! Ok, I'm done! (for now... http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/tongue.gif )

~NMK

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~JO: There were things I always wanted to say to my father........now that I'm older I know better words!

"In a PERFECT WORLD, WE'D ALL be YANKEES!!!"
(not from fol, but still very true! ;) )

"So things change. Your born, you move on, you die - that's life!"

...I think Natalie is the most spoiled.

And by the way, what is with all the middspellings? I mean misspellings! Oops!

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Andy: C'Mon Ms. Garrett, throw us a song.

Ms. G.: Born in the U.S.S.R.

I don't think we can say they were never a little selfish OR spoiled. Even Jo, she's from the Bronx and then she get's this (almost)care-free life in Peekskill. Even if you can't say she's a preepy from Peekskill, you can say she's a preppy from the Bronx.


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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, only it was a Friday."

Good point, Cokies. Compared to everyone else that she grew up with in the Bronx, Jo was definitely spoiled, too.

Probably compared to most of us that went to a public high school, all four of these girls were spoiled by going to Eastland but they did all work in the kitchen as a punishement so it wasn't all fun and games for them.

Good points, guys! (Though I never *ever* thought anyone on this board would say that Jo could be spoiled! <grin> She's always the local favorite!)

Don'cha just love thoughtful debate? <grin>

JMPolniaczek15 -

On the spoiled vs. selfish question, you're right. They are different.

I think of it like this: a "spoiled" person is used to getting exactly what they want when they want it and can get really rotten when it doesn't work like that. They have no sense of gratitude. Meanwhile, a "selfish" person has gotten what they want and have no intentions to share whatsoever.

So, by that definition (you folk may have another way of differentiating between the two) -- I still think Natalie is the most spoiled and bratty.

Blair is the most spoiled. No doubt.
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Dan: I do the dishes.
Roseanne:When?
Dan: Sunday. 6:45pm
Roseanne:1970 what?

All 4 of them are spoiled. They are all 4 pretty selfish as well, ESPECIALLY Jo. Sorry, she's my fave too, but she needs to lighten up.

I agree that Nat was more spoiled than Blair, actually more tahn all of them! I don't know if I'm just saying that because I hate Natalie or if I really think that!?:)

I think they were all spoiled and selfish at times. Like Blair got practically everything she wanted because she was rich. Tootie and Nat are kinda at a tie, because if they both wanted something they had to have it. Like in that one Christmas Episode, The Christmas Baby (I think), when they were gonna open their presents, Tootie kept doing something else, like making a toast and lighting up the tree, and Nat kept trying to hurry up so she could open her presents. And even in the Green-Eyed Monster Ep. Then with Jo, she wasn't really that spoiled, but there were times like when she wanted to get her parents back together and when she found out that they weren't, she got really upset, cus' things didn't go her way. So in some ways they were all spoiled at times. This is just my opinion though.

I think people get on the whole kick about Blair being spoiled because they fail to or won't acknowledge it in themselves. Blair just seemed more obvious than most. They ALL acted like brats!!!! That's why it was called the Facts of Life, everyone learned something from Mrs. G and from each other.
Bytheway, Nat did act in a mean way, when she played a cruel joke on Blair by setting him up on a dinner date with the kid with the acne problem--and was nasty to him as well. What a snot.:mad:

I think Blair was the most spoiled ever.

Originally posted by Jean Smart Forever
I think Blair was the most spoiled ever.

...and Lisa did it so well. The more I think about Blair and her being spoiled the more I love Blair:lol:

I agree that they were all either spoiled or selfish in some way...everyone is;)




ks

i think blair is the most spoiled i mean i like her in all b/c thats her character and she plays it very well but nat is definitly not more spoiled just b/c she goes for what she wants but she works for what she wants blair just buys it with her dads credit card

I think they were all spoiled at some point

Jo~ Jo didn't really seem all that spoiled to me. I agree with whoever said she was defensive. She was definitely the least spoiled, so I give her a 4.

Blair- She definitely had her spoiled moments, but I think towards the later years she really grew up. She didn't act all that spoiled during the later years. I think I would rank her a 3 for spoiling

Tootie- I would say Tootie is the most spoiled. I think she kind of was jealous how the older girls got to do the cool stuff that she wasn't allowed to do. Tootie def. went postal during the Jermaine Jackson episode.

Natalie- I would say Nat comes in second for spoiled moments. If Natalie really, really wanted something that she didn't get- the others better watch out. Take for example the play that Nat tried out for, but didn't get the lead role in.

I think they just all wanted things to go right...don't you get upset when things don't go right? I know I do...I don't think of ANY of them as "spoiled" or "selfish" maybe rich...but, that's a different story...

although, I DID think they were ALL selfish in "Give and Take" but I also think that was an exaggeration for that episode...I don't watch that episode....even though it's centered around Mrs. G because of the fact that the girls are being so selfish...but, like I said, i think it was an exaggeration for that episode.

Anyway...yea...that's JMO...feel free to trash it...agree wit it...whateva...

Nat did have a Maid, so yeah.......

But no, Blair takes the cake :lol:

^---yes, Blair is the most spoiled. I'm surprised at how many old posts here don't understand the difference between spoiled, and selfish, and bratty. Wow.