View Full Version : The Emmys Tribute was garbage


hitmantroy
09-22-2003, 02:19 AM
I am very outraged by the lack of a tribute the Emmys show put on for John. First off I think they milked it for ratings, because almost every time they went to commercial they made you believe the tribute would be coming up after the break. Then the tribute was way too short, and not well put together at all. I'm not upset that Suzanne and Joyce didn't reunite because after watching Suzanne on Good Day Live you can tell that her answers about the subject were fake and hesitant, and she was more there just to promote her own book and for air time. But I am upset because I feel the Emmys should honor there fallen actors such as John, and the other talented actors we have lost over the past year and give them the proper respect they deserve instead of putting garbage on such as that WANDA AT LARGE chick (which will be canceled soon) hogging airtime with annoying plugs for her show. Shame on you Emmys. I'll never watch again.

Austin Tripper
09-22-2003, 04:01 AM
they did half azz it!:rolleyes:

they got a FULL week of fake PUB they put out on all the entertainment shows.. then didn't do anything .. It looked like they put that together in the editing room while the Emmy's was going on:rolleyes:

AngelofLaughter
09-22-2003, 05:26 AM
It was half ass, but remember that the Emmys are planned all year long and by two weeks before the show, they have it down to the very second. John only died on the 11th which gave them little time to fit in a tribute. They already had Bob Hope's and Bill Cosbys tributes planned and I think they would have given it a better try if they had had more time. But it is planned down to the second so there must have been a lot of hustling to get the schedule changed especially since they needed to replace him becuz he was going to be a presenter. But it was a half ass job and even tho Bob Hope is a bigger legend, John deserved better.

Austin Tripper
09-22-2003, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by AngelofLaughter
It was half ass, but remember that the Emmys are planned all year long and by two weeks before the show, they have it down to the very second. John only died on the 11th which gave them little time to fit in a tribute. They already had Bob Hope's and Bill Cosbys tributes planned and I think they would have given it a better try if they had had more time. But it is planned down to the second so there must have been a lot of hustling to get the schedule changed especially since they needed to replace him becuz he was going to be a presenter. But it was a half ass job and even tho Bob Hope is a bigger legend, John deserved better.


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beckyc
09-22-2003, 06:17 AM
I was just saying how bad that tribute was too! i am glad i'm not the only one who thought so. I can't believe how long i waited for that stinking thing. why did they keep saying the tribute was coming after the commercial, when it never did!!!!!! *******s.

pilotguy
09-22-2003, 07:07 AM
I was appalled at the Emmy's "tribute"...it looked like a half-hearted, slapped-together job.
I'm not saying that they should have devoted 1/2 hour to it, but they could have shown some "meatier" clips than those fleeting seconds.....something that would have given his life and career some real meaning to the attendees and viewers!

I don't know, maybe it's me, and maybe I'm all wrong on this...but I just got the feeling that the Emmy Awards show's attitude was "Well, we HAVE to do SOMETHING to acknowledge John Ritter's death...but we ALL know that his silly type of comedy was beneath the kind of work that WE honor!"

Terrible to say, yes....and again, maybe I'm all wrong on this...but I just kept getting those vibes!

Mr. Television
09-22-2003, 09:28 AM
It could have at least been 5 minutes and maybe had a narator talking with the clips.

jayman75
09-22-2003, 10:41 AM
I think you're all wrong.

First of all, there was nothing that said they HAD to do a tribute to John Ritter. If you were a family member of Buddy Hackett, Charles Bronson, or one of the other actors/entertainment people in the other tribute, wouldn't you have felt slighted because they didn't get a special tribute?

Secondly, as AngelofLaughter said, the Emmys (like other awards shows) are notorious for running over time. The fact that they added the section on John shows that they DID care about his work in television.

Third... what more could you have asked for? ABC did a tribute show. Larry King had Joyce and Richard, Live had Suzanne, everyone has been profiled on something. So, appreciate that fact and go with it.

Mr. Television
09-22-2003, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by jayman75
I think you're all wrong.

First of all, there was nothing that said they HAD to do a tribute to John Ritter. If you were a family member of Buddy Hackett, Charles Bronson, or one of the other actors/entertainment people in the other tribute, wouldn't you have felt slighted because they didn't get a special tribute?

Secondly, as AngelofLaughter said, the Emmys (like other awards shows) are notorious for running over time. The fact that they added the section on John shows that they DID care about his work in television.

Third... what more could you have asked for? ABC did a tribute show. Larry King had Joyce and Richard, Live had Suzanne, everyone has been profiled on something. So, appreciate that fact and go with it. Not really. I like Buddy Hackett and Charles Bronson but the Emmys are to celebrate tv and John Ritter was a tv star. Now if it was the academy awards, I agree John probably shouldn't have gotten a special tribute.

-Fan-
09-22-2003, 11:00 AM
It was a half assed tribute to John
last night. and everyone knows it especially after FOX said the tribute
would cover John's whole career.
it was crap. and that's the truth
of it.:(

jayman75
09-22-2003, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by -Fan-
It was a half assed tribute to John
last night. and everyone knows it especially after FOX said the tribute
would cover John's whole career.
it was crap. and that's the truth
of it.:(

Well, I think that it was appropriate. And we're not the ones to judge. His family is.

DarleneIllyria
09-22-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by pilotguy
I was appalled at the Emmy's "tribute"...it looked like a half-hearted, slapped-together job.
I'm not saying that they should have devoted 1/2 hour to it, but they could have shown some "meatier" clips than those fleeting seconds.....something that would have given his life and career some real meaning to the attendees and viewers!

I don't know, maybe it's me, and maybe I'm all wrong on this...but I just got the feeling that the Emmy Awards show's attitude was "Well, we HAVE to do SOMETHING to acknowledge John Ritter's death...but we ALL know that his silly type of comedy was beneath the kind of work that WE honor!"

Terrible to say, yes....and again, maybe I'm all wrong on this...but I just kept getting those vibes!

I wouldn't doubt it. Frankly, I think John was above all that crap I saw last night. I didn't watch the full awards show, however, I will give the tribute credit. Even though it was short, it was still beautiful. And geez, I'll admit what I was thinking. I was thinking they'll spend 15 minutes on crap and 2 seconds on crap. So as you can see, I did get the 2 part right. At least 2 minutes was way better than 2 seconds. I still say John was better than some of the supposedly 'funny' people on that show. jmo

AngelofLaughter
09-22-2003, 05:15 PM
I guess we're all right in a way. It was half assed but considering all the other tributes, it was very respectful. But the tribute is over and now we can honor him as much as he deserves through his memory on this message board and reruns of the best show on the planet, Three's Company.

HuntingtonM15
09-22-2003, 05:25 PM
I think it was a great tribute. I agree with jayman. They didn't HAVE to do anything special, but they did. It might not have lasted long, but it was still nice. They already had the plans of what they were going to do for the show, and they still managed to fit that in. I didn't see a special tribute for Nell Carter or Buddy Ebsen. The only thing I didn't like was that they advertised it before almost every commercial break.

Crapple
09-22-2003, 06:00 PM
I agree that the tribute was a bit skimpy...especially because they kept intimating that it was going to be "next" and then left it until the last 15 minutes of the show. Quite frankly, I thought that was a really sleazy way to ensure people kept watching. When it finally did happen, there was little payoff. I enjoyed seeing Henry Winkler up there and thought he was the perfect guy to honor Ritter, but the montage of clips they showed was all too short and pretty unimpressive. I didn't expect Ritter to have a tribute anywhere near the scope of the one for Bob Hope, but one that required a little more thought would have been nice.

If you looked carefully, you would have noticed a small ABC logo in the bottom right hand corner of the large monitor when the montage began playing. What did that mean?

Someone mentioned Wanda Sykes. Did anyone notice how visibly irritated Bill Cosby seemed with her? She said something about how many years "The Cosby Show" managed to stay on the air and he leaned over to the mic and said "yeah, we spoke english." Also, is there something wrong with his eyesight now? I've never seen Bill wear dark glasses indoors before. He looked like Ray Charles.

beckyc
09-22-2003, 06:05 PM
LOL! i heard bill cosby say "we spoke english" but i didn't get it and now i do! lol! yeah that wanda girl wasn't even funny to me. and i thought bill looked blind. i was expecting to see him using a cane. your right, he looked like ray charles...

hue_mee
09-22-2003, 07:44 PM
When did they air the tribute to him any way? I stayed up and waited and waited and had to get to bed as I get up to dam early in the morning. I kept waiting and waiting as they dragged it on forever and then finally said the hec with it. I hope they atleast give him a decent tribute! but what I am hearing from everyone.. it seems like a dissapointment... That is too bad. John was a genius and should deserved a fitting tribute regardless how close it was towards the awards show when he died.

pilotguy
09-22-2003, 08:46 PM
I think what's getting people disgusted and angry is not the Emmy's tribute to John itself, but rather the way that it was hyped and overblown throughout the entire awards show, like it was going to be the tribute of the century!

And as for the awards show being "scripted to the minute"....do you want to tell me that Wanda Sykes' obnoxious and unfunny aisle babbling was "scripted to the minute"? I think NOT!

Crapple
09-23-2003, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by pilotguy
I think what's getting people disgusted and angry is not the Emmy's tribute to John itself, but rather the way that it was hyped and overblown throughout the entire awards show, like it was going to be the tribute of the century!

Yes, exactly.

And as for the awards show being "scripted to the minute"....do you want to tell me that Wanda Sykes' obnoxious and unfunny aisle babbling was "scripted to the minute"? I think NOT!

No way. She clearly caught a lot of those celebs off guard. After Bill Cosby gave her the cold shoulder she went to Larry David, who was seated behind Cosby, and even Larry was having a hard time rolling with it.

feeneybabe05
09-23-2003, 10:10 AM
I agree that the emmy tribute was too short, however, they couldn't spend too much time on just his legacy. i think it was great that henry winkler did it, since he was such a good friend of john (or at least he's been saying that on just about every show!). i think that the emmy people figured that there were enough tributes on other shows to make up for the shortness of their one.

-Fan-
09-23-2003, 01:23 PM
That had to be the shortest tribute
in history. or one of the shortest.
ether do a tribute right or don't do
one at all.

jayman75
09-23-2003, 02:33 PM
I don't think "scripted to the minute" means every line uttered. I think it means "two minutes with Wanda in the audience," "Garry Shandling gets four minutes of monologue," etc.


I'm still amazed at how bothered people are about the tribute. He got it. Appreciate it. Not too many others got that.

c231
09-23-2003, 05:29 PM
You seem to be bothered though by people being bothered. A lot of people are John Ritter fans and are still stunned at his death. It came totaly unexpectedly, and its only been a week. If you read the posts carefully, you'll see that people are just complaning about his tribute being hyped through out the show like it was going to be big thing when it turned out to be short.

DarleneIllyria
09-23-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by c231
You seem to be bothered though by people being bothered. A lot of people are John Ritter fans and are still stunned at his death. It came totaly unexpectedly, and its only been a week. If you read the posts carefully, you'll see that people are just complaning about his tribute being hyped through out the show like it was going to be big thing when it turned out to be short.

My mom was pissed about the tribute. She watched the whole show and she was just disgusted how they kept talking about it coming on next and instead didn't do it til the last 15 minutes. She was really pissed. Of course, can't really blame her or the people that watched the Emmy awards just for that tribute. People had to sit through quite a few hours before getting to the thing they wanted to see the most, so yeah, can't really blame anybody.

pilotguy
09-23-2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by jayman75
I don't think "scripted to the minute" means every line uttered. I think it means "two minutes with Wanda in the audience," "Garry Shandling gets four minutes of monologue," etc.


I'm still amazed at how bothered people are about the tribute. He got it. Appreciate it. Not too many others got that.

Jayman, tell the truth....You're on the Emmy committee, aren't you? ;)

3's company rules
09-24-2003, 12:54 PM
I think that the Emmy's did pretty good for not having a lot of time to do a huge tribute for him. I was really hoping for Joyce Dewitt and Suzanne Somers to speak and be there for it, I was pretty disapointed when they were'nt there.:( I think it was pretty mean to keep saying it was coming up next and then it never did until like the end!:mad:

jayman75
09-24-2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by pilotguy
Jayman, tell the truth....You're on the Emmy committee, aren't you? ;)


:P

Nope, I'm not. I'm just arguing the point that he got the tribute (plus countless other acolades), so don't gripe about it. I'm not hearing a lot of bitching from GAB fans that Nell Carter wasn't profiled. Suck it up and deal, that's what I have to say.

Montanya427
09-24-2003, 03:07 PM
Jayman well said!!!!!!

I totally agree, just cause Ritter fans didnt get the tribute they expected at least he got a tribute on the emmys and everywhere else.

I like John Ritter he was great and I dont need tributes to reassure me of his talents and comic skills. I also grew up watching GAB but I dont recall any special tributes from the classic tv channels like TV Land or N@N, or an hour long special on any of the network channels for Nell Carter. Celebrities are just like every other person on this earth they die, suddenly or expectedly and they get their tributes by how you remember them not by how much air time they get in tributes.

If you are a true fan you do not need tributes to remind of his talent and greatness you should already have a knowledge of his talents. Larry King, Emmys, ABS, N@N, TV Land cannot do all John Ritter all the time, others have passed this year and others have passed since, where are there tributes?

dandelion wine
09-24-2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by pilotguy
I think what's getting people disgusted and angry is not the Emmy's tribute to John itself, but rather the way that it was hyped and overblown throughout the entire awards show, like it was going to be the tribute of the century!

That's what bothered me the most. Considering the fact that he was given a tribute in the first place, and knowing how much attention that's been placed on him since his death (TVLand and Nick at Nite tributes, plus the one from ET on VH1), I was happy to see anything. Sure it would've been nice had it been longer but I thought it was better than nothing.

jayman75
09-24-2003, 03:34 PM
Oh, and FYI...

I didn't like the hype of it before each commercial break. That was unnecessary. THey shouldn't have promoted it at 8:15 for a 10:50 airing. At best, just done it once an hour...

Mr. Television
09-24-2003, 03:38 PM
I guess I'm lucky. I only turned into the awards show the last 15 minutes. I've seen enough of them to know that they'll hype anything to get people to keep watching.