View Full Version : Blair & Jo's Lesbian Subtext ???


geminifixx
11-24-2000, 12:40 AM
Does anyone else agree with me that it is quiet evident that Blair and Jo were secretly sisters in Sappho?

Cokies
11-24-2000, 05:44 AM
What the hell are you talkin' about?
Analyzing things a bit much?

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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, except it was a Friday."

geminifixx
11-24-2000, 01:16 PM
Well, "Cokies," isn't this board created in the spirit of facilitating meaningful (and, yes, sometimes controversial) aspects of "Facts?" I mean, if you can't handle the lesbian subtext, then butt out of this conversation, but we adults find important social commentary here, and would like to discuss it in a forum free from your dogmatic restraints. If you look at the Jo/Blair relationship, you will find the common lesbian butch/femme dynamic, pervasive throughout 80s lesbianism. Granted, such labels are anachronistic nowadays, but that doesn't mean that we are "overanalyzing." If you can;t handle such topic, "Cokies," then just don't reply. We can have a dialogue without you. Thanks.

lovefol
11-24-2000, 03:33 PM
look why dont we give up the lesbian thing
ok we know there not lesbians the facts of life was an 80's show for teenage girls
so give it up. we all know they aren't lesbians. and this is just a fun wedpage to talk about a cool show dont turn it into a wrestling match just dont post anything mean
and i can handle this topic and wont butt out

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You take the good you take the bad you take them both and there you have the facts of life!!!

The T
11-24-2000, 09:54 PM
Why do gay or bisexuals always assume this? I think it is really pathetic, maybe it's just cause I'm not gay or bisexual. Is it me?

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See ya~The T
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Jo: I don't think I can get this stuff down. I'll get some beer.

Natalie: How will you get beer?

Jo: I'll get some beer.
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Cokies
11-25-2000, 01:32 AM
Sorry, but I was just expressing that you were digging a few too deep into the show. Fine, I can understand how you could see their relationship that way, but that's not how it was.They were Jo and Blair, that's all they were. The topic is tired, so get over it. And don't think I can't handle this topic, nor any topic for that matter.
So there you go, make of it what you will, 'gem'.


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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, except it was a Friday."

JPolniaczek
11-25-2000, 04:17 AM
I must admit u are good Cokies, very good!

Cokies
11-25-2000, 04:53 PM
Thanks, JP.

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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, except it a Friday."

The T
11-25-2000, 09:18 PM
VERY good cokies! Brisk I might even say! WELL SAID!

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See ya~The T
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Jo: I don't think I can get this stuff down. I'll get some beer.

Natalie: How will you get beer?

Jo: I'll get some beer.
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lovefol
11-26-2000, 02:44 PM
very good cokies

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You take the good you take the bad you take them both and there you have the facts of life!!!

Jo Polniaczek
11-27-2000, 09:05 PM
OK, nice reply cookies. I totally agree T! But, geminifixx has a right to speak his/her mind. We might not all agree with what geminifixx has to say but others out there do. I don't think that's what the show was implying, but I don't care to dig that deep into the show. Everyone has a right to speak their mind freely and they should be respected for that. That's all I have to say http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

JohnMcMillin
11-27-2000, 09:10 PM
actually, I am a gay male and always found the "Jo was a lesbian" talk to be silly and never found it serious.

Polniaczek13
11-27-2000, 09:59 PM
i agree with you guys, this is how the other message board got torn apart and if the sane thing happens here we are all going to be really mad. this topic is tired like cookies said. just drop the whole subject ok?
Jo

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NAT: JO, if you dont get this scholarship, youre gonna be back in the BRONX running around with the little pueblos!
JO: YOUNG DIABLOS!

BLAIR: take them off JO!! I dont want to fail!
Jo: will you read my editorial?
Blair: YES!
JO: You PROMISE?
Blair: YES!!
JO: You SWEAR??
Blair: YESS!!!
Jo: i dont believe you (self satisfied smirk on her face!)

HaHa
11-29-2000, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by geminifixx:
Does anyone else agree with me that it is quiet evident that Blair and Jo were secretly sisters in Sappho?

They do kind of fight like an old married couple (i.e. The Ropers and The Bundys), but it wasn't quite as bad as the homosexual undertones of David Hasselhoff hovering at least 8 inches taller than all of his male costars on Baywatch.

tamali
01-03-2001, 05:32 PM
Look, people can talk about the lesbian subtext if they want. Bugs me when people say "enough of the lesbo stuff." If it bothers you, go to another topic! Or create a new one! Thing is, when you're growing up in the 80s, knowing deep down you're different (lesbian), and you're watching TV, you tend to look for (or create) things you can relate to. I always wished Jo were lesbian-and sort of pretended that, deep down, she was-in spite of the fact that she had boyfriends (I had a boyfriend, too, until I figured myself out).

ks
01-03-2001, 09:29 PM
This is what comes to mind when this topic is brought up:

"I don't like or agree with what you said, but I will defend your right to say it."



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Jo: Did you know that when you shake hands your lips 'pucker'?
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Beverly Ann: Let's see. It's tomorrow in Africa so if I want to talk to Edna today then I should have called her yesterday...
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Blair: The worst thing about falling asleep at the wheel is that I didn't get to see my whole life flash in front of my eyes.
Jo: Well that woulda killed ya for sure.
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ThomasE
01-04-2001, 02:24 AM
If Jo was not gay, she just wasn't. That's it.

coily2
01-04-2001, 09:45 AM
I don't think that many people felt that Jo was a lesbian when the show first aired in the 80's.... she was just a tomboy. By today's standards, she probably seems a little butch. That's most likely why all these comments are coming out.

Just my $0.02

As a side note, I always thought that Phillip McKeon was a closet case... Does anyone know?

The Obsolete Man
01-04-2001, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by coily2:
I don't think that many people felt that Jo was a lesbian when the show first aired in the 80's.... she was just a tomboy. By today's standards, she probably seems a little butch. That's most likely why all these comments are coming out.

Just my $0.02



Agreed. Plus, four young girls living together in schoolgirl outfits... that's the stuff porn movies is made of.


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-Jimi Hendrix, "The Wind Cries Tootie"

Cokies
01-04-2001, 03:40 PM
I go by my saying...
"If it does'nt affect me, I don't care."
It's true that geminifixx can say whatever he/she wants, but I can still disagree with what he/she says, or what ANYBODY says on this messageboard. I said this before, that I can see how one could see their relationship that way, but it simply was'nt. In the end, I don't think the show had all these hidden 'subtexts' as some of you suggest. I think it was a television show made for an audience's entertainment. That's all it is. And I do think you are analyzing things too much. You can disagree or agree with me, I really don't care. Well, there you go...

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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, except it was a Friday."

ILuvJo&Blair
02-11-2001, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by geminifixx:
Well, "Cokies," isn't this board created in the spirit of facilitating meaningful (and, yes, sometimes controversial) aspects of "Facts?" I mean, if you can't handle the lesbian subtext, then butt out of this conversation, but we adults find important social commentary here, and would like to discuss it in a forum free from your dogmatic restraints. If you look at the Jo/Blair relationship, you will find the common lesbian butch/femme dynamic, pervasive throughout 80s lesbianism. Granted, such labels are anachronistic nowadays, but that doesn't mean that we are "overanalyzing." If you can;t handle such topic, "Cokies," then just don't reply. We can have a dialogue without you. Thanks.

so are you saying just because Jo and Blair were as close to each other without being married to each other Friendship wise they are gay? if you are then you might as well call me lesbian because my best friend and I are just as tight and we are NOT lesbians far from it at that. but if you are not saying that can you please clearify your statement please?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

What a great show!!!
02-11-2001, 04:15 PM
I AGREE WITH ILuvJo&Blair!!!!! Just because they're friends doesn't mean they're lesbians. You can feel what you want, but i think you're TOTALLY WRONG!!!!!! And like someone else said, "if you're 'different' you might try to create things that don't really exist!"

ShamelessFanGirl
07-31-2011, 02:49 PM
I have been a fan of the show for years now and I'm a HUGE Jo/Blair shipper. However, I am not going to sit here and try say that they had more than a platonic relationship because I know they didn't. The only reason that so many people appeal to this couple the way they do and try and make it seem they had more is because it all goes back to the 'opposites attract' plot with Jo being a tomboy and masculine and Blair being feminine and a lady. A storyline that has actually become increasingly over used. Another reason that people are drawn to this and believe something is between them is also supposed 'sexual tension'. Whenever Jo/Blair are shown bickering or fighting they sometimes get close up to each other's face and it creates the illusion that a kiss is approaching but then doesn't happen so I can see where people would believe there is more because of how this can sometimes look and those who are in love with the fandom begin to see things that aren't there and allow it to take over your whole sense of reality. Now like I said, I love the pairing, but it never escapes me that they are just friends. Sometimes I wonder what the show would be like if they were more than that but I know they won't ever be so I don't worry about it. I love the show for what it is and will always enjoy Jo and Blair's friendship. They may have their difference but in the end they always work them out because their friendship exceeds everything else.

mandygirl78
12-13-2011, 06:39 AM
Straight people...

mandygirl78
12-13-2011, 06:40 AM
Look, people can talk about the lesbian subtext if they want. Bugs me when people say "enough of the lesbo stuff." If it bothers you, go to another topic! Or create a new one! Thing is, when you're growing up in the 80s, knowing deep down you're different (lesbian), and you're watching TV, you tend to look for (or create) things you can relate to. I always wished Jo were lesbian-and sort of pretended that, deep down, she was-in spite of the fact that she had boyfriends (I had a boyfriend, too, until I figured myself out).

By far, the best reply in this thread, bar none!

FOL1
12-14-2011, 12:51 PM
I AGREE WITH ILuvJo&Blair!!!!! Just because they're friends doesn't mean they're lesbians. You can feel what you want, but i think you're TOTALLY WRONG!!!!!! And like someone else said, "if you're 'different' you might try to create things that don't really exist!"


I couldn't have said it better myself. They were Not lesbians. That's so ridiculous!!

JoPol_wannabe
12-14-2011, 10:25 PM
I know you guys like to believe that Jo was a lesbian and had a closet relationship with Blair but I don't think espcially Lisa wouldn't of been on the show if they wrote them to be gay or even had it hidden within the show since she is a hug christian person and I don't know how Nancy would feel about that but I know Nancy isn't a lesbian in really life. I'm not saying you can't think what you want but the fact is the writers didn't write them to be gay they were nice fun straight girls that happend to be very close friends who seemed much like sisters.

DSIzzDS
12-25-2011, 10:10 AM
NO THEY ARE NOT!

I am sick and tired of people thinking that Blair and Jo are secretly gay for each other, THEY ARE NOT! This is a disgrace to Lisa and Nancy who are faithful Protestant and Catholic respectively. The writers had no intention to ever make them gay, and they never will, especially if Lisa has something to say about it.

I glad to be at a board like this because there are many resonable people who write reasonable fanfics of the show, unlike the femslashing stupidness going on in other places, but I see that some of the femslash nutties infiltrated here as well.

By back to my point, they are and never will be one of those people, PERIOD!

cleverfun3000
12-25-2011, 09:24 PM
I have read all these replies and I am blown away how most people feel that homosexuality is tolerable....but FOR SOMEONE ELSE. That is not me, any of my family members, none if my friends and absolutely none of my favorite sitcom actors or actresess. Otherwise, being gay is O.K.

retrofan05
12-25-2011, 09:58 PM
This show was created in the 80's and catered to teenage girls. There is absolutely no way they would have created two lesbian characters (even closeted lesbians). Also, we've all watched the show (many of us religiously) and clearly, we know that they weren't. There's really nothing more to discuss. At the same time however, those of you that are getting extremely defensive about the topic even being brought up are being pretty ridiculous. So what if there are people that think they were lesbians. Who cares? Let them think what they want. Some of you are acting as though it was suggested that the two were pedophiles.

DSIzzDS
12-25-2011, 10:29 PM
I have read all these replies and I am blown away how most people feel that homosexuality is tolerable....but FOR SOMEONE ELSE. That is not me, any of my family members, none if my friends and absolutely none of my favorite sitcom actors or actresess. Otherwise, being gay is O.K.

Who in their right minds want to be a part of the insignificant 1%?

DSIzzDS
12-25-2011, 10:33 PM
This show was created in the 80's and catered to teenage girls. There is absolutely no way they would have created two lesbian characters (even closeted lesbians). Also, we've all watched the show (many of us religiously) and clearly, we know that they weren't. There's really nothing more to discuss. At the same time however, those of you that are getting extremely defensive about the topic even being brought up are being pretty ridiculous. So what if there are people that think they were lesbians. Who cares? Let them think what they want. Some of you are acting as though it was suggested that the two were pedophiles.

So what? Let those people drag a great show in the mud by making it something that it isn't, that's what they are doing.

retrofan05
12-25-2011, 11:25 PM
So what? Let those people drag a great show in the mud by making it something that it isn't, that's what they are doing.

I would agree with that statement in terms of the porn parodies, but I wouldn't say they are "dragging a great show through the mud" simply by inferring that two characters may or may not have been gay.

cleverfun3000
12-26-2011, 11:32 AM
Who in their right minds want to be a part of the insignificant 1%?
You're Right. No one WANTS to be gay. (Certainly not any of MY realitives or friends.) They're just born that way.

retrofan05
12-26-2011, 11:57 AM
You're Right. No one WANTS to be gay. (Certainly not any of MY realitives or friends.) They're just born that way.

I am gay and I would say that in the beginning I definitely didn't want to be gay. Who would want to be harassed and discriminated against on a daily basis simply for being themselves? Eventually, however when I came to the realization that I was born gay and that it is who I was meant to be, I came to embrace it.

DSIzzDS
12-26-2011, 09:50 PM
I would agree with that statement in terms of the porn parodies, but I wouldn't say they are "dragging a great show through the mud" simply by inferring that two characters may or may not have been gay.

For the porn parodies, well all porn is trash, so I'll leave it at that.

They are, by twisting it and making it something that it never was and that it shouldn't be. Jo and Blair is about friendship, not relationship. Besides, they're too opposite to even click if they were even remotely attracted to each other. It simply wouldn't work.

Shows you the logic of those people.

DSIzzDS
12-26-2011, 09:58 PM
You're Right. No one WANTS to be gay. (Certainly not any of MY realitives or friends.) They're just born that way.

I don't care if they're born that way, developed that way, or brainwashed that way, they're insignificant. Atheists outnumber them, and that's not including those that are gay.

DSIzzDS
12-26-2011, 10:02 PM
I know you guys like to believe that Jo was a lesbian and had a closet relationship with Blair but I don't think espcially Lisa wouldn't of been on the show if they wrote them to be gay or even had it hidden within the show since she is a hug christian person and I don't know how Nancy would feel about that but I know Nancy isn't a lesbian in really life. I'm not saying you can't think what you want but the fact is the writers didn't write them to be gay they were nice fun straight girls that happend to be very close friends who seemed much like sisters.

Yeah, that's a point I didn't get into. Lisa wouldn't allow such nonsense for Blair to be a part of the insignificant 1%. I wish she would tell those stupid, moronic femslashers to stop their nonsense.

DSIzzDS
12-26-2011, 10:05 PM
I couldn't have said it better myself. They were Not lesbians. That's so ridiculous!!

Thank you! Why would the writer want then to be a part of the insignificant 1%? And the sad part is those foolish femmeslashers don't outnumber the real fans, yet their stories and videos outnumber the good FoL stories and videos 5 to 1!

Retro4Life
12-26-2011, 10:51 PM
Well, loathe as I am to wade into a discussion of fanfic, I'll throw something against the wall and see if any of it sticks.

First of all, to those who are up in arms about the slash fiction, remember that it is NOT canon, and is not intended to be. Fan fic is "fan"tasy; it's mostly about what viewers would LIKE the show to have been, in regard to endings, or developments or relationships. They often bear little resemblance to the ideas of the creators, and that's OK, since no one is (or should be) asserting that THIS IS THE TRUTH of Show X. It's just everyone's intepretation/wishes about things, so it's silly to take it for anything more than that. When I first found out that people actually wrote Star Trek fanfic featuring romance between Kirk and Spock, or X-Files fanfic featuring romance between Mulder and Krycek, I was taken aback but came to realize that it's all a big "What if?" speculation anyway. ("What If?" was a Marvel comic in the 70s and 80s that featured stories about the Marvel Comics universe if certain key events had (or hadn't) happened, and I think the analogy works quite well with fanfic).

Secondly, there's nothing "wrong" with being gay. No more so than there is being born left handed or redheaded or allergic to penicillin or a math savant. It's all genetics, and it's useless (and frankly, harmful) to try to attach any sort of morality to it whatsoever.

I approach fanfic with a great deal of caution. Some of it is very, very good, but most of it is very, very BAD. Some of it ties in quite well with the creators' intent, and a lot of it doesn't. In any case, it's not canon, should never be interpreted as such, and above all, should not be something to get upset about. The show you remember in your heart is, indeed, the "real" show with the "real" story and relationships. Everything else, regardless of quality, is just people exercising their right to dream.

retrofan05
12-26-2011, 11:19 PM
I don't care if they're born that way, developed that way, or brainwashed that way, they're insignificant. Atheists outnumber them, and that's not including those that are gay.

That's like saying, "I don't care if some people are born with green eyes. More people have brown eyes, so they are insignificant."

The fact that you believe someone could be brainwashed into being gay just shows how little you understand homosexuality. People are born gay. I was born gay. Homosexuality is simply a sexual orientation (the gender we are physically and emotionally attracted to). Heterosexuals are attracted to the opposite sex and homosexuals are attracted to the same sex. That's it. There is no conclusive data to prove that just 1% of the population is gay. Frankly, it's probably much higher. But, whether it's 1% or 10% isn't the point. The point is, we are all people; people that deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. Saying that all gays are insignficant is not only hurtful, but hateful. The fact that you are degrading an entire group of people simply because you are upset about two fictional TV characters being called gay is just uncalled for.

zypherix
12-27-2011, 08:40 AM
That great quote "homosexuality is not a choice, but homophobia is" seems to fit the conversation.

retrofan05
12-27-2011, 10:38 AM
That great quote "homosexuality is not a choice, but homophobia is" seems to fit the conversation.

Agreed :)

mandygirl78
12-27-2011, 09:49 PM
That great quote "homosexuality is not a choice, but homophobia is" seems to fit the conversation.

Yep, that's so true.

mandygirl78
12-27-2011, 10:02 PM
Yeah, that's a point I didn't get into. Lisa wouldn't allow such nonsense for Blair to be a part of the insignificant 1%. I wish she would tell those stupid, moronic femslashers to stop their nonsense.

Who the heck are you to tell anyone who or what they should write about concerning FoL? Last time I checked, you don't own the rights to the show, Sony Television does, so you have no legal right to say what fanfic should be allowed.

I'm a proud FoL femslasher and I'm not ashamed to write Jo/Blair fics, contrary to what some people on this board thinks. If I had the time and skill, I would do a Jo/Blair video as well. They aren't real characters, and neither has Sony nor the writers have objected to the gay-themed stories and videos, so we can do what we want with them as pleased, and if you object to those type of stories so much, then DON'T READ IT and DON'T WATCH IT! Nobody's forcing you to read those stories, and I'm sure as heck not forcing you to read my stories.

Also, if we choose to pair another set of FoL ladies, then we have the right to do that as well! I did read your other post BTW...

But you're right about one thing, there is a group out there that is the 'insignificant 1%' - THE HOMOPHOBES!

mandygirl78
12-27-2011, 10:14 PM
That's like saying, "I don't care if some people are born with green eyes. More people have brown eyes, so they are insignificant."

The fact that you believe someone could be brainwashed into being gay just shows how little you understand homosexuality. People are born gay. I was born gay. Homosexuality is simply a sexual orientation (the gender we are physically and emotionally attracted to). Heterosexuals are attracted to the opposite sex and homosexuals are attracted to the same sex. That's it. There is no conclusive data to prove that just 1% of the population is gay. Frankly, it's probably much higher. But, whether it's 1% or 10% isn't the point. The point is, we are all people; people that deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. Saying that all gays are insignficant is not only hurtful, but hateful. The fact that you are degrading an entire group of people simply because you are upset about two fictional TV characters being called gay is just uncalled for.

I was about to respond to that quote, but you said it better than I could.

mandygirl78
12-27-2011, 10:18 PM
I am gay and I would say that in the beginning I definitely didn't want to be gay. Who would want to be harassed and discriminated against on a daily basis simply for being themselves? Eventually, however when I came to the realization that I was born gay and that it is who I was meant to be, I came to embrace it.

Same here. In fact, if I had to do my life all over again, I wouldn't change my sexual orientation. I don't see anything wrong in liking girls.

DSIzzDS
12-28-2011, 06:27 PM
Same here. In fact, if I had to do my life all over again, I wouldn't change my sexual orientation. I don't see anything wrong in liking girls.

Then there's something wrong with you.

DSIzzDS
12-28-2011, 06:36 PM
Well, loathe as I am to wade into a discussion of fanfic, I'll throw something against the wall and see if any of it sticks.

First of all, to those who are up in arms about the slash fiction, remember that it is NOT canon, and is not intended to be. Fan fic is "fan"tasy; it's mostly about what viewers would LIKE the show to have been, in regard to endings, or developments or relationships. They often bear little resemblance to the ideas of the creators, and that's OK, since no one is (or should be) asserting that THIS IS THE TRUTH of Show X. It's just everyone's intepretation/wishes about things, so it's silly to take it for anything more than that. When I first found out that people actually wrote Star Trek fanfic featuring romance between Kirk and Spock, or X-Files fanfic featuring romance between Mulder and Krycek, I was taken aback but came to realize that it's all a big "What if?" speculation anyway. ("What If?" was a Marvel comic in the 70s and 80s that featured stories about the Marvel Comics universe if certain key events had (or hadn't) happened, and I think the analogy works quite well with fanfic).

Secondly, there's nothing "wrong" with being gay. No more so than there is being born left handed or redheaded or allergic to penicillin or a math savant. It's all genetics, and it's useless (and frankly, harmful) to try to attach any sort of morality to it whatsoever.

I approach fanfic with a great deal of caution. Some of it is very, very good, but most of it is very, very BAD. Some of it ties in quite well with the creators' intent, and a lot of it doesn't. In any case, it's not canon, should never be interpreted as such, and above all, should not be something to get upset about. The show you remember in your heart is, indeed, the "real" show with the "real" story and relationships. Everything else, regardless of quality, is just people exercising their right to dream.

And most of the very, very, BAD ones are the femmeslash ones. Jo/Blair and that other femmeslash pairing I won't mention never make good stories, since it's so off from the writer's vision.

TV_on_the_Porch
12-28-2011, 06:50 PM
I have read all these replies and I am blown away how most people feel that homosexuality is tolerable....but FOR SOMEONE ELSE. That is not me, any of my family members, none if my friends and absolutely none of my favorite sitcom actors or actresess. Otherwise, being gay is O.K.

Did you decide it is OK for your favorite comic characters or is it just taking you a reallllyyy long time to find another avatar (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=286372)?

DSIzzDS
12-28-2011, 06:57 PM
Who the heck are you to tell anyone who or what they should write about concerning FoL? Last time I checked, you don't own the rights to the show, Sony Television does, so you have no legal right to say what fanfic should be allowed.

I'm a proud FoL femslasher and I'm not ashamed to write Jo/Blair fics, contrary to what some people on this board thinks. If I had the time and skill, I would do a Jo/Blair video as well. They aren't real characters, and neither has Sony nor the writers have objected to the gay-themed stories and videos, so we can do what we want with them as pleased, and if you object to those type of stories so much, then DON'T READ IT and DON'T WATCH IT! Nobody's forcing you to read those stories, and I'm sure as heck not forcing you to read my stories.

Also, if we choose to pair another set of FoL ladies, then we have the right to do that as well! I did read your other post BTW...

But you're right about one thing, there is a group out there that is the 'insignificant 1%' - THE HOMOPHOBES!

This is a free Internet... For now, so I can express my opinion as openly as I can. You and all the other femmeslashers are lucky that Sony hasn't cracked down on your stories, like what Archie Enterprise did to FF.net. All those terrible Betty/Veronica femmeslash stories used to be on that site. That's exactly what's going to happen on FF.net, if you fools don't stop your nonsense. Facts of Life channel of FF.net was once good, now 80% of it is Jo/Blair foolishness, and of course there's that one story that's just as bad, if not, worse. Right Mandy? :)

Say what you want about me, I could care less if you think that I'm a homophobe, I won't lose a sleep over it. I just don't want a good show's legacy getting unfairly tarnished.

retrofan05
12-28-2011, 08:53 PM
Then there's something wrong with you.

Personal attacks are against the rules of Sitcoms Online.

mandygirl78
12-29-2011, 12:53 PM
Personal attacks are against the rules of Sitcoms Online.

And he's also attacking my story, isn't that considered flaming?

Ags2000
12-29-2011, 01:56 PM
NO MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS AT ALL OR THIS THREAD WILL CLOSE DOWN!

Keep this discussion clean please!

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FOL Moderator

DSIzzDS
12-29-2011, 08:59 PM
I apologize for any personal attacks. I had no real intentions to do any personal attacks.

I also apologize for saying that you can be brainwashed to be gay. I don't believe that whatsoever. I was just trying to say how much I don't care how one becomes gay. It was a bad example now that I realize it. My apologies, if I had known better, I would have used a better example.

Now that I got that out of the way, let me make my main points.


That Jo, Blair AND Cindy are not gay. We might as well include Cindy in this.

The writers never intend for them to be gay.
Even if they did, Lisa Whelchel wouldn't let such a thing happen.

That saying they are gay is a lie

That femmeslashers are perpetrating this lie through the stories and videos. Thus they are bringing shame to a great show.
Shows like the Big Gay Sketch show and porn parodies are perpetrating the lie as well.



And those are the main points.

ThomasE
01-13-2012, 01:37 AM
I remember this topic from almost 12 years ago. I will say what I said back then. "Can we leave well enought alone and enjoy this show without sterotyping these great characters?" I say close the thread. However, its up to AGS2000(how are you?). If it remains open, please let some stuff go, folks and enjoy the board.

PartyOfOne
01-17-2012, 09:35 PM
[QUOTE=DSIzzDS]NO THEY ARE NOT!

>>This is a disgrace to Lisa and Nancy who are faithful Protestant and Catholic respectively.<<

And, the contradiction is...?

PartyOfOne
01-17-2012, 09:45 PM
This is a free Internet... For now, so I can express my opinion as openly as I can. You and all the other femmeslashers are lucky that Sony hasn't cracked down on your stories, like what Archie Enterprise did to FF.net. All those terrible Betty/Veronica femmeslash stories used to be on that site. That's exactly what's going to happen on FF.net, if you fools don't stop your nonsense. Facts of Life channel of FF.net was once good, now 80% of it is Jo/Blair foolishness, and of course there's that one story that's just as bad, if not, worse. Right Mandy? :)

Say what you want about me, I could care less if you think that I'm a homophobe, I won't lose a sleep over it. I just don't want a good show's legacy getting unfairly tarnished.

I would say Jo and Blair were definitely both heterosexual, and if I recall correctly, they were based on Betty&Veronica, weren't they? Also this DSIzzDS person needs to give this up. Try coming into 2012.

PartyOfOne
01-18-2012, 10:12 PM
I have read all these replies and I am blown away how most people feel that homosexuality is tolerable....but FOR SOMEONE ELSE. That is not me, any of my family members, none if my friends and absolutely none of my favorite sitcom actors or actresess. Otherwise, being gay is O.K.


[COLOR="Blue"]Looking at your avatar I am reminded of Archie Comics. They created this gay character named Kevin Keller and eventually he marries Clay Walker (yes, Kevin has a [U]husband[U])! In reality they should have just had Jughead come out of the closet and Kevin could have been his husband.