View Full Version : Why a Replacement for Tori Necessary?


TVFactFan
07-14-2003, 12:26 PM
I never understood why the producers felt they needed to bring in another girl instead of just finishing out with Slater, Zac, Screech, Lisa and Kelly. The fct that it was their last year in highschool, no new girl was needed. But not only did they select a girl who was too masculine, but then they make her and Zac a couple_LOL We all know Tori and Zac did not look right together. Tori to me was waste of time. Notice how she wasn't on the College version of SBTB.

xOxMizzBrodyxOx
07-14-2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
I never understood why the producers felt they needed to bring in another girl instead of just finishing out with Slater, Zac, Screech, Lisa and Kelly. The fct that it was their last year in highschool, no new girl was needed. But not only did they select a girl who was too masculine, but then they make her and Zac a couple_LOL We all know Tori and Zac did not look right together. Tori to me was waste of time. Notice how she wasn't on the College version of SBTB.

Kelly was not in the last season neither. But because i guess they neeeded another girl, idk though.

TVFactFan
07-14-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by SBTBprincess715
Kelly was not in the last season neither. But because i guess they neeeded another girl, idk though.


Are you are sure? So in the last season it was just Lisa, Tori, Zac, Slater and Screech?

xOxMizzBrodyxOx
07-14-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Are you are sure? So in the last season it was just Lisa, Tori, Zac, Slater and Screech?

Positive. You can tell i know by my sn ;)

Christopher
07-14-2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Are you are sure? So in the last season it was just Lisa, Tori, Zac, Slater and Screech?



Every SBTB fan knows that. Did you watch this show with Tori in it? She was great in it imo.

HuntingtonM15
07-14-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Christopher
Every SBTB fan knows that. Did you watch this show with Tori in it? She was great in it imo.

I think she was great, too.

SBTB Geek
07-15-2003, 05:24 PM
I really don't think that Tori was necessary. Once the cast had started to perfect their chemistry, Tori came over and screwed things up.

I'm sure if they would of kept the cast only with Zack, Slater, Screech, and Lisa everything would of gone fine. She wasn't a crucial part. But I guess the producers decided that Lisa needed at least another girlfriend.

Does anybody else get irratated whenever they hear Lisa say the following comment?... "Girl, you are my new best friend. YOU'RE my only best friend.".... c'mon how was she able to forget about Kelly, and Jessie so easily?

I'm sorry Tori fans, but she TOTALLY messed things up.

HuntingtonM15
07-15-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by SBTB Geek
Does anybody else get irratated whenever they hear Lisa say the following comment?... "Girl, you are my new best friend. YOU'RE my only best friend.".... c'mon how was she able to forget about Kelly, and Jessie so easily?

No, I can't say that I do.

TVFactFan
07-15-2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by SBTB Geek
I really don't think that Tori was necessary. Once the cast had started to perfect their chemistry, Tori came over and screwed things up.

I'm sure if they would of kept the cast only with Zack, Slater, Screech, and Lisa everything would of gone fine. She wasn't a crucial part. But I guess the producers decided that Lisa needed at least another girlfriend.

Does anybody else get irratated whenever they hear Lisa say the following comment?... "Girl, you are my new best friend. YOU'RE my only best friend.".... c'mon how was she able to forget about Kelly, and Jessie so easily?

I'm sorry Tori fans, but she TOTALLY messed things up.


Exactly, the gang was in thier last year of highshool and did not need a new hangout partner

xOxMizzBrodyxOx
07-15-2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by SBTB Geek
I really don't think that Tori was necessary. Once the cast had started to perfect their chemistry, Tori came over and screwed things up.

I'm sure if they would of kept the cast only with Zack, Slater, Screech, and Lisa everything would of gone fine. She wasn't a crucial part. But I guess the producers decided that Lisa needed at least another girlfriend.

Does anybody else get irratated whenever they hear Lisa say the following comment?... "Girl, you are my new best friend. YOU'RE my only best friend.".... c'mon how was she able to forget about Kelly, and Jessie so easily?

I'm sorry Tori fans, but she TOTALLY messed things up.

Defiantly. I couldn't stand Tori.

steak
07-23-2003, 01:16 AM
Kelly and Jesse quit the show in the middle of Season 4. Tori was brought in as a replacement. Before they could quit though, they had already filmed the Season 4 episodes they were in, including the Graduation episode, and just showed it last.

FactsofLifeRulz
07-23-2003, 01:56 AM
I didn't like Tori all that much. I enjoyed Kelly and Jessie 100x more. :crazy:

IamGGFan
07-23-2003, 06:41 PM
I think Tori is still good, but I have to admit, I liked Jessie and Kelly better than Tori.:wave: :wave:

TVFactFan
07-23-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by IamGGFan
I think Tori is still good, but I have to admit, I liked Jessie and Kelly better than Tori.:wave: :wave:


I know what you mean, Tori was TOO MASCULINE

1GucciDiva
09-23-2003, 05:36 AM
I didn't like Tori that much either! Her and Zack were a TERRIBLE couple! However, if you've seen the E! True Hollywood Story: Saved by the Bell then you'd know that they (Kelly and Jessie) quit the show TEMPORARILY! They replaced them w/Tori, but on the last season Kelly and Jessie came back to finish up the show! So whoever thought Tori was there their senior year and graduated w/them, she didn't graduate w/them! Slater, Zack, Kelly, Jessie, Lisa, and Screech graduated together (the one were Zack almost failed)! So no, whoever said they taped those episodes first are WRONG! Tiffani-Amber Thiessen and Elizabeth Berkley indeed did take a break from the show! However, they did want to be included in the final season (and I got this from the producer's of the show)! I'm a SBTB junkie, so I know a lot about this show :lol:!!! One of my cousins think I'm :crazy: b/c I like this show so much! I have just about every episode on tape :D!

SBTB Geek
09-23-2003, 02:08 PM
^ The senior episodes with Jessie, and Kelly were shot a long time before the ones with Tori. Elizabeth, and Tiffani, did not take a break when Tori came, they were through with the show.
When the gang shot the final graduating episode, the whole cast thought that was the last episode they were going to be filming, but I think that NBC later decided to shoot more episodes, but Tiffani and Elizabeth did not agree to come back, so NBC just decided to get a cheap replacement.

NBC just decided to mix the Tori eps. with the Jessie/Kelly ones becuase they wanted to make it seem as if all of them where going to school at the same time, but it just "happened to be" that Jessie and Kelly were hanging-out somewhere else, or had different classes than Slater, Zack, Screech, and Lisa.

Can you please tell me which producer you spoke with?... Because he obviously has his facts wrong. Even the official production dates can prove him wrong.

1GucciDiva
09-23-2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by SBTB Geek
^ The senior episodes with Jessie, and Kelly were shot a long time before the ones with Tori. Elizabeth, and Tiffani, did not take a break when Tori came, they were through with the show.
When the gang shot the final graduating episode, the whole cast thought that was the last episode they were going to be filming, but I think that NBC later decided to shoot more episodes, but Tiffani and Elizabeth did not agree to come back, so NBC just decided to get a cheap replacement.

NBC just decided to mix the Tori eps. with the Jessie/Kelly ones becuase they wanted to make it seem as if all of them where going to school at the same time, but it just "happened to be" that Jessie and Kelly were hanging-out somewhere else, or had different classes than Slater, Zack, Screech, and Lisa.

Can you please tell me which producer you spoke with?... Because he obviously has his facts wrong. Even the official production dates can prove him wrong.


:lol: SBTB Geek, I didn't speak to a producer :lol:! I meant that's what a producer said on the "E! Hollywood True Story"! So if it's a lie they told it!

Adamantium
09-29-2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by SBTB Geek
^ The senior episodes with Jessie, and Kelly were shot a long time before the ones with Tori. Elizabeth, and Tiffani, did not take a break when Tori came, they were through with the show.
When the gang shot the final graduating episode, the whole cast thought that was the last episode they were going to be filming, but I think that NBC later decided to shoot more episodes, but Tiffani and Elizabeth did not agree to come back, so NBC just decided to get a cheap replacement.

NBC just decided to mix the Tori eps. with the Jessie/Kelly ones becuase they wanted to make it seem as if all of them where going to school at the same time, but it just "happened to be" that Jessie and Kelly were hanging-out somewhere else, or had different classes than Slater, Zack, Screech, and Lisa.


That's how I always heard it. Kelly and Jessie filmed like 9 episodes including the Graduation episode. Then Tori came in for the rest. I just wish they would have at least mentioned something about Kelly and Jessie. They could have made them spend a semester in Paris or something, so in the Graduation episode, it's where they return just in time to graduate. That's the one thing I really didn't like about SBTB, there was no real continuity. I mean it had some, obviously. So I wonder, if the Miss Bliss years really happened to the characters or if they were supposed to be a different Zack Morris, Screcch Powers, Lisa Turtle, and Richard Belding?

And yes, I too hate that line Lisa spoke about Tory being her only best friend.

hughpuppies
01-15-2004, 05:43 PM
If you remember in one episode a guy saw kelly and wanted her to model for him and she did. So she had to go to Paris and Zack did not like that. She was supposed to sepnd a month in Paris. Wonder why the producers never went farther with that idea.

SBTB Geek
01-17-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by hughpuppies
If you remember in one episode a guy saw kelly and wanted her to model for him and she did. So she had to go to Paris and Zack did not like that. She was supposed to sepnd a month in Paris. Wonder why the producers never went farther with that idea.

Maybe she went during summer... LOL, have an imagination! ;)

factsoflife
01-19-2004, 06:26 PM
What happened is that Tiffaine Thissen and Elizabeth Berkely decided to leave the show when their contracts expired and everyone else decided to go on. So they taped a series finale episode with Kelly and Jessie, then they taped a whole season w/out them. Then aired the episodes w/out them before airing the finale episode that made no refrence of Tori. Hope that helps.

hch
05-06-2004, 09:44 AM
When Lisa said that Tori was her new best friend and her "Only" best friend, she meant that Tori helped her out with the school dance that she was planning when she totally alienated everyone in the dance committee. When Lisa said that, she said because everyone dropped out of the dance committee and wouldn't talk to her due to her attitude, and Tori did bring up a good idea about the Autumn Harvest theme in Belding's office when she first came in. That episode "the New Girl" came on this morning on TBS.

So Lisa did not say that line to mean "I forgotten all about kelly and Jessie", she said it because she was desperate for ideas for the Fall Dance. That's all

DukeDevils9192
05-20-2004, 11:56 PM
The "only best friend" line was clearly a subtle in-joke at the fact Jessie and Kelly were gone. It was actually quite funny.

SBTB Geek
05-21-2004, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by hch
When Lisa said that Tori was her new best friend and her "Only" best friend, she meant that Tori helped her out with the school dance that she was planning when she totally alienated everyone in the dance committee. When Lisa said that, she said because everyone dropped out of the dance committee and wouldn't talk to her due to her attitude, and Tori did bring up a good idea about the Autumn Harvest theme in Belding's office when she first came in. That episode "the New Girl" came on this morning on TBS.

So Lisa did not say that line to mean "I forgotten all about kelly and Jessie", she said it because she was desperate for ideas for the Fall Dance. That's all

Interesting view point, but I just can't see it that way. I'm sure that the writers had Elizabeth and Tiffani in mind when they wrote the "joke."

TMC
05-22-2004, 12:41 AM
http://homepage.mac.com/ijball/SbtB/history.html

SbtB producer Peter Engel seems to have come up with several solutions. He appears to have decided to produce another partial season of SbtB proper in Grade 12 at Bayside, using a new female character in the place of Kelly and Jessie. This would allow them to finish the Grade 12 season of SbtB, tOS. This, in turn, would give the producers time to develop two new series for production: Saved by the Bell: The College Years (http://homepage.mac.com/ijball/SbtB/TCY/List.html), the continuation of the adventures of Zack and Screech (and Slater), and Saved by the Bell: The New Class (http://homepage.mac.com/ijball/SbtB/TNC/List.html), the continuation of the adventures of Mr. Belding and the students of Bayside High.

So, a new character was created for this "half" incarnation of "Saved by the Bell". The character's name was Tori (Leanna Creel). This introduces another continuity question: it is still Grade 12 at Bayside, so where are Kelly and Jessie? It is obvious that the "Tori" Grade 12 episodes are supposed to take place in the same time-frame as the "Kelly and Jessie" Grade 12 episodes; we know this beacuse the "Tori" Grade 12 episodes were aired concurrently (i.e. on the very same days) that "Kelly & Jessie" Grade 12 episodes were in the '92-'93 Grade 12 season on NBC. So what's going on? The way to explain away this apparent discontinuity is to say that the "Tori" episodes are taking place at the same time as the "Kelly and Jessie" episodes, but that Kelly and Jessie are "off screen". Thus, Kelly and Jessie, and Tori, must be "in different classes", and we, the viewer, are seeing Tori on different days and different nights or in different locations than when or where we saw Kelly and Jessie in their Grade 12 episodes. So why are Kelly and Jessie almost never mentioned in Tori episodes, and vice versa? And why is Lisa's hair style different in some of the "Tori" episodes from the hair style she had through the entire "Kelly & Jessie" Grade 12 year? Well, you got me! and this explanation only goes so far.

Though filmed before the "Tori" episodes, the Grade 12 Graduation episode was shown after the Tori episodes (as apparently was the Hawaii TV movie), in primetime on NBC on May 22, 1993, along with the pilot to Saved by the Bell: The College Years (see below). It was rerun, again with The College Years pilot, in the regular timeslot for the premiering Saved by the Bell-The College Years on Tuesday, September 7, 1993 at 8:00 pm EST.

TVFactFan
05-28-2004, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by SBTB Geek
Interesting view point, but I just can't see it that way. I'm sure that the writers had Elizabeth and Tiffani in mind when they wrote the "joke."


Tori was very Greasy and dirty. They defintely could have did away with her

barb1686
05-28-2004, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Tori was very Greasy and dirty. They defintely could have did away with her

haha She wasn't greasy and dirty...she just wore a leather jacket and was given the impression of a tomboy but I wouldn't call her greasy and dirty LOL

SBTB Geek
05-28-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Tori was very Greasy and dirty. They defintely could have did away with her

I have HDTV, and she looks perfectly clean on my screen.

barb1686
05-28-2004, 03:32 PM
Here's a cast picture...she doesn't look greasy.

barb1686
05-28-2004, 03:42 PM
Tiffani must have been thinking about continuing with the show when that photo was taken (along with others) because she wasn't in any episodes with Tori.

I guess there was a commercial way back when the show had new episodes with her, Tori, and Elizabeth. I think it's Erika who said she still had this commercial on tape. I'd love to see it.

HuntingtonM15
05-28-2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by barb1686
Tiffani must have been thinking about continuing with the show when that photo was taken (along with others) because she wasn't in any episodes with Tori.

I guess there was a commercial way back when the show had new episodes with her, Tori, and Elizabeth. I think it's Erika who said she still had this commercial on tape. I'd love to see it.

I'd also like to see that. By the way, I LOVE your new avatar!

barb1686
05-28-2004, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by HuntingtonM15
I'd also like to see that. By the way, I LOVE your new avatar!

Thanks! :D

DSFanForever
05-28-2004, 10:49 PM
Only new shows are broadcast in High Def, and not even all shows are. So SBTB would never be in High Def.

factsoflife
05-28-2004, 11:10 PM
Actually thats not true. HighDef can broadcast any show, as long as its on a tv that supports high def.