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Originally posted by AAOT
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Dang, that means file-swappers better stop trading songs over the internet. :(

I guess the RIAA isn't playing anymore with people who download songs for free on the internet.

Another Article... http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/06/25/download.suits.ap/index.html

Stupid. :thumbsdow If they think they can get every single person who downloads, they're seriously disturbed.

BAH!!!!!!!

It's the way of life, people will ALWAYS find ways around it...We had Napster a couple of years ago for songs and when they shut Napster down, KaZaA came around...I heard Napster might be coming back but if they do, you would have to pay a fee to use it...

I Dont understand why they just wont let us have our fun. Radio Stations Do the same thing...

what a load of crap

even they can't be stupid enough to sue their own customers! sue us and we CAN'T affoard to buy their albums. their are always ways around laws, and if they want people to go and buy cd's here is my suggestion: WRITE GOOD SONGS!!!!!!!! not just one or two good songs on a cd make whole cd's good put a full effort into all the songs; not just the ones you will make **** loads of money off of

Originally posted by King Chad Doody
I Dont understand why they just wont let us have our fun. Radio Stations Do the same thing...

Oh, totally! I mean it's not like the radio stations are saying they're going to sue us all for listening to the songs they play for free. To me, music, is an international thing that's been around since almost the beginning of time and we should be able to enjoy it. Plus, these artists already make plenty of money with merchantise, tours, etc!

Originally posted by Original Prankster
Stupid. :thumbsdow If they think they can get every single person who downloads, they're seriously disturbed.

Yeah. They'd probably have to sue half the United States... I dont see how this is any different then listening to them off the Radio, you can record them off there.

I saw on the news that RIAA will be going after 'everyone' who downloads music and they will be fined between $250 - $750. I don't see how in the world they will be able to go after 'everyone'. One of my local DJ's admits to downloading music himself.

Originally posted by animalcrackers
I saw on the news that RIAA will be going after 'everyone' who downloads music and they will be fined between $250 - $750. I don't see how in the world they will be able to go after 'everyone'. One of my local DJ's admits to downloading music himself.

I heard they were going after people who downloaded a lot of music and share a lot.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I heard they were going after people who downloaded a lot of music and share a lot.

yea but that won't work because you can just move the songs out of your shared folder and they won't know how many you have. plus there are Ip blockers and many many ways to keep who you are hidden while you are online.

Ive read that fines can be up to $150 Thousand per song... that is nuts...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3021126.stm

Originally posted by AAOT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3021126.stm

Morons. I hope this pisses people off enough that no one buys all their crappy CDs.

This is so stupid.. we get to hear songs on the radio for free, what's wrong with listening to it on the internet for free? Are they going to start sueing people who listen to the radio now? :rolleyes:

Are they going to start sueing people who borrow and listen to other people's cds...

Originally posted by laceyinthesky
This is so stupid.. we get to hear songs on the radio for free, what's wrong with listening to it on the internet for free? Are they going to start sueing people who listen to the radio now? :rolleyes:

Are they going to start sueing people who borrow and listen to other people's cds...

Exactly what I was thinking. :crazy:

If I go out to a restaurant and take home leftovers, is the establishment going to sue me for "sharing" with my loved ones?

If I see a wonderful television show and decide to "share" this info with some friends, am I going to be sued for promoting it?

DAMN...IS TJ GOING TO SUE ME FOR SHARING MY THOUGHTS ON THIS MESSAGEBOARD!

Originally posted by laceyinthesky
This is so stupid.. we get to hear songs on the radio for free, what's wrong with listening to it on the internet for free? Are they going to start sueing people who listen to the radio now? :rolleyes:

Are they going to start sueing people who borrow and listen to other people's cds...

That would be a good argument in court. I mean you can get free music by recording a song off the radio onto a tape.

Originally posted by JOHN LENNON LIVES
If I go out to a restaurant and take home leftovers, is the establishment going to sue me for "sharing" with my loved ones?

If I see a wonderful television show and decide to "share" this info with some friends, am I going to be sued for promoting it?

DAMN...IS TJ GOING TO SUE ME FOR SHARING MY THOUGHTS ON THIS MESSAGEBOARDS!

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

It's seriously so, so stupid.Just about everybody except for the members of the RIAA (Hell, even some of them) swap music over the internet.It's become about as American as apple pie, baseball and Hollywood divorces.Screw the music industry! Screw them! Some bands actually don't mind people downloading their songs.Of course, those bands are the bands that no one cares about enough to go and buy their CDs.Thankfully my favorite band, They Might Be Giants do like it when people download their music.

Oh, BTW Did you guys see Mary Bono and that other guy rap (or at least try to rap) about this? It's hilarious! "Piracy is bad, Piracy is bad".You guys IS bad! :lol:

Tough $hít on their part. I'm not giving it up. The thing is, I download music from KaZaA, but I don't let other people download it from me, therefore, I don't share it :lol:

But seriously. Just 'cause they sue, doesn't mean they can win...

Originally posted by Miss Karly
Tough $hít on their part. I'm not giving it up. The thing is, I download music from KaZaA, but I don't let other people download it from me, therefore, I don't share it :lol:


thats what i do too. take all you can get but never give anything back;)

Originally posted by Brian
That would be a good argument in court. I mean you can get free music by recording a song off the radio onto a tape. Yah, but the radios are still making their $$$. Theyre the ones promoting the songs and they help make the sales for the artists. But like Karly, Im gonna keep on DL and I dont share either!:p

When they start throwing huge fines at me, I'm going to demand them to tell me where else I'm supposed to get AI songs.

Originally posted by YearbookLoser
When they start throwing huge fines at me, I'm going to demand them to tell me where else I'm supposed to get AI songs. :rock:

I heard about them people sueing, i think thats ******** ....I've used winmx.com will they sue that for people dl from that website? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire offtopic:

Good night nurse. How stupid. It really makes me wonder what'll happen next. How about this, you go on a roadtrip and you've seriously have to find a gas station or a store or restaurant bathroom. You find a place and go to the bathroom and someone calls out, "Wait! You must buy something before you go and piss. You can't just be coming into this joint and using this place for free. You buy something or else I'm gonna sue you." I wouldn't be surprised. Might sound stupid here, but I'm not surprised.

I use Kazaa. I find it easier to use Kazaa instead of forking out money for cds that might suck. I still buy cds from artists I can depend on and feel they do great music. I just bought two cds yesterday. So I'm still forking out dough. I just use Kazaa to download from the artists that I don't really like (but like a couple of songs from the artist) or I've gotten cds from the artist before and found out they really only have 2-3 good songs and the rests are fillers.

Jenny,
No, that's not what'll happen next. What'll happen next is -- the complete disappearance of a music industry because everyone can take it for free.

Singers, musicians and composers are in it to make a living. Someone here mentioned earlier that we can hear music on the radio for free. This is true, but does that entitle us to walk into a music store, grab any CDs we want and walk out without paying for them? They're played on the radio to promote *sales*. It's the singers, musicians and composers' *business.*

You said here, in so many words, "I don't just steal whole products that I like. I just steal the ones I'm not sure I want *all* of. How dare they take that right away from me!" Sounds like that's the artist's punishment for not making a CD that pleases you entirely -- you get it for free . . . and they get no sale.

Are this many people really crying about the prospect of having difficulty getting something for nothing??

And, don't ask me how I found this board.

Later,
Art

Originally posted by Belle Black
I've used winmx.com will they sue that for people dl from that website?

No because some use winmx for legal stuff...

Originally posted by Miss Karly
Tough $hít on their part. I'm not giving it up. The thing is, I download music from KaZaA, but I don't let other people download it from me, therefore, I don't share it :lol:

But seriously. Just 'cause they sue, doesn't mean they can win...

Ditto. Slows my computer down too much to share.

Besides, all the songs I dl are from groups/people that are either broken up or dead. I doubt the dead people really care.

Yesterday It was reported that the number of users online on Kazaa Media Desktop had dropped... Now it looks like the numbers are back up and the RIAA's Threat isn't stopping people..

http://newsobserver.com/24hour/technology/story/929413p-6476198c.html

Originally posted by Artfiore1
Jenny,
No, that's not what'll happen next. What'll happen next is -- the complete disappearance of a music industry because everyone can take if or free.

Singers, musicians and composers are in it to make a living. Someone here mentioned earlier that we can hear music on the radio for free. This is true, but does that entitle us to walk into a music store, grab any CDs we want and walk out without paying for them? They're played on the radio to promote *sales*. It's the singers, musicians and composers' *business.*

You said here, in so many words, "I don't just steal whole products that I like. I just steal the ones I'm not sure I want *all* of. How dare they take that right away from me!" Sounds like that's the artist's punishment for not making a CD that pleases you entirely -- you get it for free . . . and they get no sale.

Are this many people really crying about the prospect of having difficulty getting something for nothing??

And, don't ask me how I found this board.

Later,
Art


People are sharing music that they already paid for, just like if I borrowed a cd from someone who just bought it. What makes the first one so much worse than the second?

Also, music files aren't the only files being shared, so why is the music industry making so many complaints? What about downloading movies? What's worse.. Watching a movie on ABC for free, or downloading the same movie on the internet for free?

laceyinthesky,
Who knows why a person, persons or even an industry getting ripped off might choose not to complain about it? It's their right to or not to . . . and their choice.

On the subject of "sharing," if you buy CDs and then "share" them with *millions* of people you don't even know, I've gotta tell you -- you're astonishingly generous!

Later,
Art

Originally posted by Artfiore1
laceyinthesky,
Who knows why a person, persons or even an industry getting ripped off might choose not to complain about it? It's their right to or not to . . . and their choice.

On the subject of "sharing," if you buy CDs and then "share" them with *millions* of people you don't even know, I've gotta tell you -- you're astonishingly generous!

Later,
Art

I never said it wasn't they're right to complain about it. I just don't think they're going to have a great argument in court.

laceyinthesky
I don't know what made me think you were questioning anybody's right to complain. Actually, to be technical, I never said that you said it wasn't their right to complain. Must've been that line in your reply,"why is the music industry making so many complaints?" that confused me. Sorry if I misunderstood.

Later,
Art

what about music videos? I have a ton of them on here and it's not like they sell their videos unless they do a video DVD like Abba did but they rarely do that.

MandieR1980,
Music videos aren't really the "product." They're an expensive and risky means of promoting the artist and promoting sales of the product, which is the recording. At least, that was the original idea.

Some friends of mine in the recording business once spent more than $120,000 on the production of a music video -- only to have it *rejected* by MTV, after it was finished. Not only did they *not* get that money back, but they also had to shell out an even greater amount to make another video which MTV accepted.

Later,
Art