Discuss.

I'd say that Sammy Hagar had more talent and the better voice, but the misfortune to enter Van Halen when rock was becoming saturated with keyboards and pop.
I know Van Halen was changing with the times and Eddie's guitar is always distinguishable, but the times kinda sucked and it's a little too watered down for my taste.

Roth was there with the bad boy times, the more raw Eddie and Van Halen sound. Everything was new and artisitically Eddie was going to town, and, in my opinion, peaking while Roth was there.

Nothing can beat Van Halen I, Women And Children First, or Fair Warning in my opinion. Though 1984 was a really good album and had some solid rock tunes, it was the precursor to a new Van Halen- which is not the same no matter how you slice it.

I mean, how is "Right Now" by the same band who did "And The Cradle Will Rock"?

Of course if you like the music when Hagar was there, that's fine, but to me it is really not the same. I saw them live about 8 years ago and it just never clicked watching Hagar play the old VH tunes.

They sounded very good though.

I like David Lee Roth. More charisma I guess!:D

Van Roth, I guess, even though DLR is a better showman than a human being. Sammy Hagar was good and little more professional, in spite of whatever Eddie Van Halen says about him now, but their music was a little too safe by that time.

I read that at one time early on in VH's career, his record company was thinking of replacing Roth with Hagar long before he actually replaced Roth.:eek:

Originally posted by dlemond
Roth was there with the bad boy times, the more raw Eddie and Van Halen sound. Everything was new and artisitically Eddie was going to town, and, in my opinion, peaking while Roth was there.

Nothing can beat Van Halen I, Women And Children First, or Fair Warning in my opinion. Though 1984 was a really good album and had some solid rock tunes, it was the precursor to a new Van Halen- which is not the same no matter how you slice it.


Exactly. It pains me when "Jump" comes on the radio to hear that keyboard. That song could have been 100 times better if Eddie had been playing the guitar.

Van Roth.

Originally posted by Miss Karly
Exactly. It pains me when "Jump" comes on the radio to hear that keyboard. That song could have been 100 times better if Eddie had been playing the guitar.

Neet. Neet. Neet, Nee-neee, neee neee.

Bweet, Bweet, bwee bwee-nee-nee...

:dance: "Might as well hump (HUMP!!) Go ahead and hump..."

Woops. Wrong lyrics.:doh:

Eddie Van Halen on keyboards. Sure wasn't anything like "Eruption," that's for sure.

I'll give a six-pack of Vanilla Coke to the first person to tell me which Van Halen song was the FIRST to feature keyboards.

Originally posted by Captain ABlairica
Neet. Neet. Neet, Nee-neee, neee neee.

Bweet, Bweet, bwee bwee-nee-nee...

:dance: "Might as well hump (HUMP!!) Go ahead and hump..."

Woops. Wrong lyrics.:doh:

Eddie Van Halen on keyboards. Sure wasn't anything like "Eruption," that's for sure.

I'll give a six-pack of Vanilla Coke to the first person to tell me which Van Halen song was the FIRST to feature keyboards.

Runnin' With The Devil has keyboards in it- right before it kicks in.
So- first album, first song.

I would go with Sammy Hagar without a doubt. I love most of the Roth era albums like VH I, Fair Warning and 1984 but Sammy has a far better voice and wrote much more sophisticated lyrics. I also grew up on Hagar in that I didn't start to get really into music until 1988 when I was 12, and Hagar was singing at that point. Songs like "Right Now", "Don't Tell me", "Mine All Mine", "Human's Being" have lyrics that you can really sink your teeth into where as Dave just wrote about girls, partying, girls, hating school, girls, fast cars, did I mention girls? Now, there was nothing wrong with what dave wrote about, after all those things are what rock is all about. But all bands have to grow up and mature at one point and Van Halen did that with Hagar. As of now Mike and Alex are 51 and Eddie is 49, don't you think it would be funny if they were still writing songs about going out on Fridays to party?:dog:

Van Cherone!











Just kidding.




Van Roth

Originally posted by dukey
I would go with Sammy Hagar without a doubt. I love most of the Roth era albums like VH I, Fair Warning and 1984 but Sammy has a far better voice and wrote much more sophisticated lyrics. I also grew up on Hagar in that I didn't start to get really into music until 1988 when I was 12, and Hagar was singing at that point. Songs like "Right Now", "Don't Tell me", "Mine All Mine", "Human's Being" have lyrics that you can really sink your teeth into where as Dave just wrote about girls, partying, girls, hating school, girls, fast cars, did I mention girls? Now, there was nothing wrong with what dave wrote about, after all those things are what rock is all about. But all bands have to grow up and mature at one point and Van Halen did that with Hagar. As of now Mike and Alex are 51 and Eddie is 49, don't you think it would be funny if they were still writing songs about going out on Fridays to party?:dog:

I have to agree with you. I like them both but if I have to choose it would be Van Hagar.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jpnoyes
[B]Van Cherone!

I tried so hard to like Gary Cherone and the III album. I remember Eddie linking III with the 1981 album Fair Warning, as an album you really had to listen to a lot before you really could appreciate it. I just could never get into III or Cherone. Even the single "Without You" which was a good song was ruined by Cherone's voice.








:dog:

I definitely prefer Van Roth. David Lee Roth rocks! I mean come on those were the best years. I mean Sammy Hagar's great there's no doubt about that, but I just prefer Diamond Dave.

Dave is great, there is no doubt about that but I do not feel that the band could have ever grown and matured if Dave had remained the frontman. Eddie mentiones all the time that it is all about growing as a musician for him. I don't feel that he would have had as much of a chance to do this without Sammy. Dave could never have sung Dreams or Right Now, both of which were important songs for the band. :dog:

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Van Roth. No question about that in my mind. Sammy Hagar's great and I do like him but I loved Dave's energy, charisma, his sound. To me, those were the best years.

Van Roth most definitely.
A quick story, a few years ago as part of my community service class in college, I was assigned to sit in & observe at a suicide hotline center for one evening. We got a call from a man who was threatening to jump off the roof of his apartment building because he had lost his job that day. The girl who took the call put him on hold so she could get one of the counselors. When put on hold it automatically went over to radio so the person on hold would hear music. While this guy was on hold, the song being played just happened to be Van Halen's JUMP. When the counselor got on the phone this poor guy was so confused, he said that they were telling him to "jump, go ahead jump, you might as well jump". I guess he didn't realize it was a famous song. The counselor eventually talked him down, but I can never hear "Jump" and not think of that poor man. We all got a good laugh that night.
Just thought I'd share that one with everybody.